It was an article from a January 07 issue of the Courant:Mike said:Is this before Boston Properties decided that they wanted to make 888 Boylston taller? I think there is an article around here somewhere about how they are looking to double the height of what was earlier proposed.
The Boston Courant said:New Tower Is Planned For Prudential Center
by Shayndi Raice
Plans are being drawn up to nearly double the size of an office building at the the Prudential Center, already New England's largest mixed-use development.
The plans by the Pru's owner, Boston Properties, have not yet been officially unveiled, but they have been discussed with city officials and at least one member of a citizen group overseeing development at the Prudential Center. According to reliable sources, the plan involves nearly doubling the height of an 11-story office building that had already been approved for 888 Boylston Street, now a courtyard directly in front of the Prudential Tower.
If built, the expanded office building would be considerably taller than the Mandarin Hotel, which is under construction next door to the site and will be 155 feet high.
Boston Properties' expansion could also involve plans disclosed last summer to build another luxury housing tower along Exeter Street in partnership with Avalon Bay Communities,
which owns three existing residential towers at the Prudential Center.
Betsy Johnson, chairperson of the Prudential Project Advisory Committee (PruPAC), was briefed on plans in October and said that a meeting was supposed to be scheduled with the committee, but it was delayed with the start of the holiday season. "All I know is that things are supposed to be in the works", she said. "In fairness, [Boston Properties] is probably trying to make sure the all their ducks in a row".
Johnson said that any new office or housing expansion would come under the purview of PruPAC. She noted, however, that members of the committee reacted favorably to the possibility of additional housing of Exeter, especially in the wake of construction of the Mandarin where residences had once been contemplated.
Johnson added that after the 11-story glass office building had been approved, some PruPAC members indicated "in retrospect" that the building could have been considerably higher.
For the time being, Boston Properties is keeping any expansion plans at the Prudential Center close to its vest. "888 Boylston is the last planned development site on the master plan when we bought the building from Prudential", said Boston Properties spokesperson Amy Daniels. "While we're encouraged by office market conditions and we look forward to working with PruPAC and the BRA, there are no imminent plans for [the property] at this point."
There's a shocker. Of course they can say anything "in retrospect".Mike said:Johnson added that after the 11-story glass office building had been approved, some PruPAC members indicated "in retrospect" that the building could have been considerably higher.
Amen to that. How will I enjoy my Bomber's burger without any natural light??bowesst said:This can't be allowed to block the light of the precious Prudential Center Food Court.
An inspired building for me might be something like BU's law tower or the Majestic Theatre, and maybe even One Lincoln/State St Bank (I'm a sucker for well-done pomo). My first reaction to the renderings for 888 was that the all-glass facade doesn't feel right here. I suppose they're trying to play off the new Apple Store, but it looks like a pale comparison with a curve and stripe tacked on to show that someone put a bit of thought into it.DudeUrSistersHot said:Can anyone tell me what their idea of a "good" or "inspired" building looks like?
I think there is no single answer, that every site is unique. Isn't it strange that people want to tear down a building in one of the most dense parts of the Financial District (Winthrop Square) and replace it with an open plaza when that is the antithesis of what most people would argue is good urban planning? Isn't street scape important? Isn't that the biggest criticism of Contemporary design?I mean, I understand the problems with precast (it looks like shit), I completely agree on criticisms regarding scale of neighborhoods and NIMBYs and too many parks, and buildings with setbacks that look suburban, that don't interact well with the street. But jesus, guys, what is it going to take for a building to win your approval?
I thought this was tagged the R2D2 building (I know 111 Huntington is as well, but I have heard this reference long before 111 was built). Isn't the Darth Vader Building the Fiduciary Trust Building near South Station?Ron Newman said:At Boylston and Exeter is a structure that instantly got tagged "The Darth Vader Building" because of too much dark glass. I'd hate to see the same mistake repeated on the other side of Boylston.
Not so dramatic. Why, it will hardly even "soar," Scott.Mike said:By Scott Van Voorhis
Boston Properties is exploring a dramatic expansion of a planned new Prudential Center office tower, as office rents head skyward.
The real estate giant is considering plans for a 400,000 square foot office and retail tower at the prominent Back Bay site, local executives said.
The project, which would take shape on Boylston Street next to the entrance to the Pru, could rise as high as 24 stories, according to one source.
We have these in the Financial District, and you could find them exhilarating. To those who have received their planning wisdom in the School of Suburbia, this is of course anathema.And it could also spark opposition from some neighborhood activists determined to prevent Boylston Street, home to historic landmarks like the Boston Public Library, from becoming a canyon of high-rises.