Bulfinch Triangle Infill & Small Projects

SuffolkHeights11 said:

Didn't know where to put this because it is still very early. 700 foot proposal at 251 Causeway/North Washington Street.
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Whelp, that's going nowhere... great find/post, though.

I don't know why they don't go for the gold. According to the Logan Airspace Map (now in an interactive tool!) http://ialp.airplanonline.com/PublicBOSP.aspx you could hit 780+ there for a new tallest.

What that looks like:

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Equilibria said:
Whelp, that's going nowhere... great find/post, though.

I don't know why they don't go for the gold. According to the Logan Airspace Map (now in an interactive tool!) http://ialp.airplanonline.com/PublicBOSP.aspx you could hit 780+ there for a new tallest.
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The JHT is 790'. I do think it would be a very Boston move to finally eclipse the JHT after 50 years with a 791', although it would be an even more Boston move to never eclipse the JHT.
 
The developer is smoking crack right? I just don't see in what world that would end up being allowed. Not that it's a bad location for it, but the North End already deepsixed similar height at The Garden way back.
 
Let's leave the North End alone, okay? It's one of the few very old and semi-intact neighborhoods in the city. Stick a few more towers in Cambridge instead.
 
Life Coach Mike said:
Let's leave the North End alone, okay? It's one of the few very old and semi-intact neighborhoods in the city. Stick a few more towers in Cambridge instead.
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To be fair, this would be more in the Bulfinch Triangle area and not the North End proper. Still just across N Washington from the neighborhood though.
 
Yeah, building towers there and on Causeway is key to preserving the North End
 
I still think the big mistake was blowing all these prime parcels with 10-14 story landscrapers instead of including towers as parts of these developments.

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DZH22 said:
I still think the big mistake was blowing all these prime parcels with 10-14 story landscrapers instead of including towers as parts of these developments.

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I remember reading that they couldn't build tall because of the tunnel, not that it would have happened anyway. North End residents would have shot down anything tall there.
 
Mike said:
I remember reading that they couldn't build tall because of the tunnel, not that it would have happened anyway. North End residents would have shot down anything tall there.
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I saw something similar, but do tunnels really go under the entire footprints of all 3 of those?
 
Equilibria said:
What that looks like:
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I just want to give a massive shout out for how all-out @Equilibria went with this amazing post. Somehow the multiple views of massing renders from 10+ miles out on the highway are an appropriately ridiculous (and by that, I mean awesome) amount of analysis overkill that is beautifully juxtaposed with the flimsiness of this (pre- pre- pre-) proposal itself. Thank you for this.
 
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Equilibria said:
According to the Logan Airspace Map (now in an interactive tool!) http://ialp.airplanonline.com/PublicBOSP.aspx you could hit 780+ there for a new tallest.
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Keep in mind also that the FAA map heights calculate to above sea level. You need to also remove the site's elevation to see the actual max height that can be built there. I'm not exactly sure where this is being proposed but I think it's between a 40'-50' elevation, meaning at best we'd be able to get around 730'-740' in that location. Of course, if anything DOES ever get built there it probably won't be higher than like 150'.

I wonder if there are any renders for this?
 
stick n move said:
The central artery goes under the left and center buildings and north station for green and orange is under the center and right buildings.
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So there's no place in the entire footprint of those 3 buildings that could have supported something taller?
 
DZH22 said:
So there's no place in the entire footprint of those 3 buildings that could have supported something taller?
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The victor (center building) doesnt have the documents up on the bpda website anymore for some reason, but I found information on the civil engineering companies website:


“As part of the Boston Big Dig project, the central artery was relocated into a tunnel under the subject parcel and runs parallel with the existing tunnel of the MBTA green line. The building straddles both tunnels.”

“From preparing Existing Conditions plans of the site pre-design to creation of easement plans to allow the proposed building to bear on the newly constructed Central Artery Tunnel.”

“Once the Existing Conditions were complete the top of the newly constructed Central Artery Tunnel was exposed, A&M’s survey division was pressed into action to locate bearing piles on top of the existing tunnel that were designed in anticipation of possible future building design. The plans produced as a result of this survey were the basis for the design of the now existing building.”
https://www.allenmajor.com/portfolio-view/the-victor-boston-ma/


As far as the beverly (left building) nee merano, boston plans has the documents and images up still.




http://www.bostonplans.org/getattachment/c2bee946-f7c4-431b-9cab-50d36905aaa6


Avenir (right building) is much older than both above and theres hardly any info out there I can find other than mentioning that the building is above north station tunnels.
 
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Two of the three parcels in the assessors map for this proposed tall. are owned by a GPT Properties Trust, This trust could either be

(1) a REIT, with its main office at 90 Park Avenue in NYC. (GPT Properties Trust was also formerly known as Gramercy Property Trust. Name changed recently to Link Logistics Real Estate. As the new name suggests, mega-talls are not in their portfolio, but logistics-related terminals, etc. are. Gramercy was apparently a spin-off of the Blackstone Group, = deep pockets.)

Or, (2) a similarly-named trust with offices in Newton MA. This trust is associated with the RMR Group.
https://www.rmrgroup.com/about-us/default.aspx
 
Regardless of how unrealistic this proposal is, I'm glad to see a new proposal in this area. The Bulfinch Triangle is ripe for dense development, especially at the numerous parking lot parcels.
 
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