Bunker Hill Housing Redevelopment | Charlestown

I'm sure there will be some kind of shuttle service from these new complexes to the orange line stop. Marina bay & North Quincy residences offer this as an amenity.
 
The 93 pre pandemic ran way more often than every 15 minutes and the T7 will as well (including 1 seat rides to downtown and seaport).
All of this 'CTown isn't connected via bike' is more than a bit hyperbolic. No need to get to community college or whole foods.
This route is 90% off street and low stress 100%.
 

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real_EthanHunt said:
The 93 pre pandemic ran way more often than every 15 minutes and the T7 will as well (including 1 seat rides to downtown and seaport).
All of this 'CTown isn't connected via bike' is more than a bit hyperbolic. No need to get to community college or whole foods.
This route is 90% off street and low stress 100%.
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That's pre pandemic schedule. Pre-COVID the 93 ran every 7 - 9 minutes peak, every 15 - 20 midday and saturdays, and every 30 evenings. Currently service is only every 45 minutes or less than hourly off peak.

There's no certainty the T7 will happen. The MBTA has lost 5% of it's bus operators in the past 6 weeks, and is down to only 82% of the staffing to run pre-COVID service. The fiscal cliff is still forecast to set in next summer.

That leaves the North Washington Street Bridge, which is still under construction, and occasional closures of the dam routing/crossing. The last update specifices a completion date of the end of Q1 2025, or late March 2025.
 
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Bunker Hill Celebrates Project Milestone​

“Last week, LMP was joined by the Charlestown Resident Alliance, Boston Housing Authority, and members of the project team to celebrate the construction progress at the Bunker Hill Housing Redevelopment. The first building is now 65% complete and fully enclosed…..”

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https://www.bldup.com/posts/bunker-hill-celebrates-project-milestone
 
stick n move said:

Bunker Hill Celebrates Project Milestone​

“Last week, LMP was joined by the Charlestown Resident Alliance, Boston Housing Authority, and members of the project team to celebrate the construction progress at the Bunker Hill Housing Redevelopment. The first building is now 65% complete and fully enclosed…..”

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Nice looking complex, but the one thing bothering me is the apparent lack of greenery and open space in the new complex compared to the old housing project (anecdotally based on the above photo). After all, there are families with kids who will reside in many of these new units. Hopefully there is some open space and playgrounds allocated in the new development. This observation is coming from a guy who grew up in a 1950s housing project which, fortunately, did have ample open space and playgrounds (Jefferson Park in North Cambridge). It's important,
 
Charlie_mta said:
Nice looking complex, but the one thing bothering me is the apparent lack of greenery and open space in the new complex compared to the old housing project (anecdotally based on the above photo). After all, there are families with kids who will reside in many of these new units. Hopefully there is some open space and playgrounds allocated in the new development. This observation is coming from a guy who grew up in a 1950s housing project which, fortunately, did have ample open space and playgrounds (Jefferson Park in North Cambridge). It's important,
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Renderings back at Post 47 seem to show a number of green spaces, play grounds, etc.

Bunker Hill Housing Redevelopment | Charlestown

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This is really going to make charlestown feel like 25% bigger when complete due to better street connections, ground floor retail, and the variety of facades, buildings, and uses. Like most other projects of this vintage the old projects are essentially walled off from the rest of the neighborhood, theres no retail within them, and every building is an exact replica of the other 35 buildings so theres really no reason to go in there unless you live there or are visiting someone who does. It essentially walls off like 25% of the neighborhood. This redevelopment though will take this huge area and make it into just another part of charlestown to live in, shop in, and just pass through on the way to somewhere else. I have a certain nostalgia for these old brick buildings and wish there was a way to reuse most or some of them but its probably just not even worth the effort, so I’m glad to see something better in their place.

The most ironic part about these huge housing projects is (these ones arent that bad) but most of them were built at weird angles to the street grid, on superblocks, and had no retail, but if they had built the exact same buildings and just put them on the normal street grid they could have been retrofitted with retail pretty easily and not been such dead zones. Its almost like they ensured into the built environment from the jump that these would be walled off ghettos that would be extremely hard to fix short of just bulldozing the entire place and starting over.
 
stick n move said:
This is really going to make charlestown feel like 25% bigger when complete due to better street connections, ground floor retail, and the variety of facades, buildings, and uses. Like most other projects of this vintage the old projects are essentially walled off from the rest of the neighborhood, theres no retail within them, and every building is an exact replica of the other 35 buildings so theres really no reason to go in there unless you live there or are visiting someone who does. It essentially walls off like 25% of the neighborhood. This redevelopment though will take this huge area and make it into just another part of charlestown to live in, shop in, and just pass through on the way to somewhere else. I have a certain nostalgia for these old brick buildings and wish there was a way to reuse most or some of them but its probably just not even worth the effort, so I’m glad to see something better in their place.

The most ironic part about these huge housing projects is (these ones arent that bad) but most of them were built at weird angles to the street grid, on superblocks, and had no retail, but if they had built the exact same buildings and just put them on the normal street grid they could have been retrofitted with retail pretty easily and not been such dead zones. Its almost like they ensured into the built environment from the jump that these would be walled off ghettos that would be extremely hard to fix short of just bulldozing the entire place and starting over.
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The tough bit is that this part of Charlestown where the housing projects lay on is on low lying ground and would likely be flooded by the Mystic in the not so distant future. Current flood mitigation projects are focused on the Sullivan Square area, but this part of Charlestown with the housing projects are more vulnerable to flooding, have no ongoing flood mitigation projects, and house low income minority residents who are going to be forced out by storm surge, hurricanes, and sea level rise in 20 years or less.

It's kinda tough seeing this new building go up for housing, and the ocean is a stone throw's away, and there's nothing stopping the ocean from flooding the the new building that just went up just a few months or years old. The floodwaters extend to cover entire neighborhood's low income housing stock, all the way to the elementery school in the area, after just a few or several years, or perhaps sooner than that. The floodline lines up exactly where the housing projects end and where the wealthy parts of Charlestown begins.
 
Delvin4519 said:
n where the housing projects lay on is on low lying ground and would likely be flooded by the Mystic in the not so distant future. Current flood mitigation projects are focused on the Sullivan Square area, but this part of Charlestown with the housing projects are more vulnerable to flooding, have no ongoing flood mitigation projects, and house low income minority residents who are going to be forced out by storm surge, hurricanes, and sea level rise in 20 years or less.

It's kinda tough seeing this new building g
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Delvin4519 said:
The tough bit is that this part of Charlestown where the housing projects lay on is on low lying ground and would likely be flooded by the Mystic in the not so distant future. Current flood mitigation projects are focused on the Sullivan Square area, but this part of Charlestown with the housing projects are more vulnerable to flooding, have no ongoing flood mitigation projects, and house low income minority residents who are going to be forced out by storm surge, hurricanes, and sea level rise in 20 years or less.

It's kinda tough seeing this new building go up for housing, and the ocean is a stone throw's away, and there's nothing stopping the ocean from flooding the the new building that just went up just a few months or years old. The floodwaters extend to cover entire neighborhood's low income housing stock, all the way to the elementery school in the area, after just a few or several years, or perhaps sooner than that. The floodline lines up exactly where the housing projects end and where the wealthy parts of Charlestown begins.
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Yeah missed opportunity, like that other big project on the Mystic in Charlstown they are raising the street level. And I think at the Columbia point redo also. Seems like it might not be too expensive if they just made the ground level or two a parking podium which they need anyway. Even if they didnt, trucking in "clean fill" should'nt be too expensive. But seems like there were a lot of moving parts to this project and happy it got moving at all.
 
Sullivan area is much more suseptable to flooding than here. Look at the food maps. Not only that but it provides a way in for water to go far to the west.
 
real_EthanHunt said:
Sullivan area is much more suseptable to flooding than here. Look at the food maps. Not only that but it provides a way in for water to go far to the west.
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Sure, but far, far, far fewer residents live there than here. We're talking about poor and minority residents that are going to be the first to be displaced by the seas, but the wealthy part of town ain't going anywhere.

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Delvin4519 said:
Sure, but far, far, far fewer residents live there than here. We're talking about poor and minority residents that are going to be the first to be displaced by the seas, but the wealthy part of town ain't going anywhere.

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I assumed that map had something to do with flood zones but I'm realizing I don't really know what I'm looking at. Is that an income distribution map? I'm guessing red is low, yellow medium, blue high? And where'd you find that? Thanks.
 
Plen-T-Pak said:
I assumed that map had something to do with flood zones but I'm realizing I don't really know what I'm looking at. Is that an income distribution map? I'm guessing red is low, yellow medium, blue high? And where'd you find that? Thanks.
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Going by the income map doesn't change anything. The lower income minorities as well as the brand new Bunker Hill redev (that's only a few months or years built) will still be flooded before the wealthier areas on higher ground in C-town. Ethnic map was the first map displayed above with ethnic minorities in green/yellow/red. The new redev building going up right now is in a unprotected floodplain with no flood mitigation projects ongoing right now.

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Delvin4519 said:
Going by the income map doesn't change anything. The lower income minorities as well as the brand new Bunker Hill redev (that's only a few months or years built) will still be flooded before the wealthier areas on higher ground in C-town. Ethnic map was the first map displayed above with ethnic minorities in green/yellow/red. The new redev building going up right now is in a unprotected floodplain with no flood mitigation projects ongoing right now.

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According to that map, the Prattville neighborhood of Chelsea is high income???
 
393b40 said:
Downtown Boston is also apparently low income.

Something tells me the data has a weird definition of "resident"
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For the downtown area showing low income (northeast edge of the Common), the dominant residential component there is Suffolk University dorms.

The other area on the south edge of downtown is mostly income restricted housing.
 
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