Cassidy Point

Portlander said:
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Spectators and players will get a great up close view of aircraft using the harbor approach and landing on runway 29 along with departures from runway 11! :)
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This might be the only soccer stadium in the country that would require red aviation obstruction beacons on top of the stadium lights:D
 
Portlander said:
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Spectators and players will get a great up close view of aircraft using the harbor approach and landing on runway 29 along with departures from runway 11! :)
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Yes!! That’s why a canopy over the sideline sides of the stadium with big “Hearts of Pine” on one and “Portland” on the other would be so great! Along with many other massive benefits referenced in post #35!
 
NR2Portland said:
Yes!! That’s why a canopy over the sideline sides of the stadium with big “Hearts of Pine” on one and “Portland” on the other would be so great! Along with many other massive benefits referenced in post #35!
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Love the canopy idea. Protection from Maine weather, a modern look, and retaining the Hearts fans energy! Wish Hadlock did this. Their ticket sales early in the Sea Dogs season would skyrocket - people wouldnt worry about the spring showers.
 
Does the Spur to the IMT stay or go? Does the outdated bridge that the DOT refuses to replace get demolished?
 
I'll point out that they're already talking about adding a womens' team as well, so that's double the dates right there.

And a conversation I had with Google AI the other day mentioned that it's possible to build modular stadiums now, so capacity could be expanded if needed (if the Hearts got promoted, for instance).

One other point regarding rail: the wye that permeates the site got a substantial refurbishment about 15 years ago, before the Thompson's Point project was announced and when it was thought that the train station would move to Commercial St. So it's not the typical Guilford-era garbage track that CSX inherited. Also, I measured and the proposed new station site to roughly the stadium site is about a quarter of a mile, so easily walkable even if there's no specific service to the stadium.
 
MarkHB said:
I'll point out that they're already talking about adding a womens' team as well, so that's double the dates right there.

And a conversation I had with Google AI the other day mentioned that it's possible to build modular stadiums now, so capacity could be expanded if needed (if the Hearts got promoted, for instance).

One other point regarding rail: the wye that permeates the site got a substantial refurbishment about 15 years ago, before the Thompson's Point project was announced and when it was thought that the train station would move to Commercial St. So it's not the typical Guilford-era garbage track that CSX inherited. Also, I measured and the proposed new station site to roughly the stadium site is about a quarter of a mile, so easily walkable even if there's no specific service to the stadium.
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See screenshot of map showing the proposed location of the new AMTRAK station.
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TheGreat207 said:
Love the canopy idea. Protection from Maine weather, a modern look, and retaining the Hearts fans energy! Wish Hadlock did this. Their ticket sales early in the Sea Dogs season would skyrocket - people wouldnt worry about the spring showers.
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Having been a Sea Dogs season ticket holder for multiple seasons, I would say that it's not the chance of a shower that deters people, it's the thought of sitting in 40 degree weather at night. Especially with the on-peninsula wind.
 
PWMFlyer said:
Does the Spur to the IMT stay or go? Does the outdated bridge that the DOT refuses to replace get demolished?
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The spur to the IMT stays; it's viable trackage even if CSX is mainly using it for car storage, and it at least provides theoretical rail access to the IMT. (My understanding is that, even with the double track, the intermodal space by the freezer warehouse is too small to be viable, and PYS has all the rest of the space down there so they can't stretch it out further.)

The bridge... I'd be interested in knowing whether it's the state, the city, or Sprague's lobbying that keeps that there.
 
MarkHB said:
Having been a Sea Dogs season ticket holder for multiple seasons, I would say that it's not the chance of a shower that deters people, it's the thought of sitting in 40 degree weather at night. Especially with the on-peninsula wind.
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That’s a fair opinion. As another sea dogs szn ticket holder, I’d say rain deters us over a chilly game. But either way, a canopy would be a great addition to either stadium!
 
As long as we're in the area, here's a fun game: show a young Portlander (say, high school or college age) this pic and ask them to figure out what it is:
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Is that a parking garage behind one of the grandstands in the renderings? If so that will help squelch most of the "what about parking?" negative Nellys. Regardless, Redfern continues to help turn parts of Portland's blight into beauty. Can't wait to catch a game at the new fort!
 
Has to be a parking garage with sports facilities in the background.

I love the idea of Cassidy Point being redeveloped, especially removing the toxic coal and other materials.

But I might be the outlier and think this location might be a mistake? Unless there is definitely parking, a hotel, other accommodations or features at the site itself ... then I don't see it working.

It'd be a LONG walk if you wanted to go out to dinner at the Old Port and then catch a game. But it "could" turn the western end of Commercial Street into a more walkable boulevard. Maybe?

Get what's his name to extend his narrow gauge rail line to the site to shuttle people to the site?
 
MarkHB said:
The spur to the IMT stays; it's viable trackage even if CSX is mainly using it for car storage, and it at least provides theoretical rail access to the IMT. (My understanding is that, even with the double track, the intermodal space by the freezer warehouse is too small to be viable, and PYS has all the rest of the space down there so they can't stretch it out further.)

The bridge... I'd be interested in knowing whether it's the state, the city, or Sprague's lobbying that keeps that there.
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I doubt anyone is lobbying for the bridge – more likely is that nobody cares enough to get rid of it to justify the demolition costs. It's a beefy concrete bridge and tearing it out and doing all the necessary clean-up site work would be at least a $1 million contract.
 
The location works. On off major road access. Access to new train station, if built next to Tyson,. The lot at Mercy could be utilized for parking with shuttles. The long term plan for that lot was to build a garage if needed. So you could build a regional garage that would be for Amtrak, HOP, and Mercy. Currently, I doubt many people eat out then go to the soccer game.. Its about the experience, food trucks, drinks, etc... not like going to Merrill to see a play...You don't need a hotel on site. As posted before, look at the Pawtucket Venue as an example. Waterfront, walking paths, shuttles. Look at the concerts also at Thompsons Point(lack of parking) and the amount of people who bike there or walk from Mercy.
 
cneal said:
Lots of renderings in the Press Herald story. Looks like the plan would replace the entire Sprague site – the coal pile, salt piles, and the scrap metal shed – but leave intact the pier and warehouse on the very tip of the point, and repurpose the existing warehouse closest to Cianbro as an indoor sports facility.

Also looks like there's a separate 3-story building that's separate from the stadium planned for the north side of Cassidy Point road, where the coal pile is today:

It would be cool if the Hearts could work out a deal with Casco Bay Lines for special game day ferry shuttles between downtown and Cassidy Point...

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What's the flood map for this zone?
 
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