Channel Center | Fort Point

While the renderings above are attractive and convenient, much isn't available for public review in the Boston Globe, Herald, etc.

The BRA's approved Channel Center Master Plan was the subject of 15 months of public process (meetings, press events, fanfare etc.), providing the necessary zoning relief to allow for massing of new construction across the project.

The Master Plan required subgrade parking.

From PDA Master Plan #53:

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And here is what was filed and is quietly moving through approvals, no press discussing the revision, one public meeting required prior to approval of the Notice of Project Change:

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This 9-story 300,000 square foot parking garage offers nothing at pedestrian level — four dead streetwalls, no active uses (retail/restaurant/civic) at ground floor. The parking garage will face Fort Point's first recreational park.

As for active uses the 525,000 square foot One Channel Center project proposes only one small cafe (9,000 square feet) at one corner of the building, with doors to the cafe available only from the interior lobby of the building. The remaining 90% of the four sides of the building have no doors for active uses, aside from a single pedestrian passageway from one side of the building to the park on the other side — subject to closure at the discretion of the property owner and tenant (State Street).

If that building is really going to be back-ops for State Street a lot of it will be just computers -- State Street is basically a very big electronic File Cabinet with the contents of the files being the keys to 3 Trillion $

They don't need all that space for people -- but EMC will be a happy camper with a branch office for support
 
The the leafy skin on the parking garage seethes with irony and contempt. The ground floor invites the intoxicated patron to piss there rather than in the stairwells and elevators.

A sneering tour de force.
 
An above ground parking garage and a building with zero street level interaction (next to a park of all places) is maybe the absolute antithesis of what should be built in 2012 Boston (or anywhere).

Slow clap for the BRA on this one.
 
An above ground parking garage and a building with zero street level interaction (next to a park of all places) is maybe the absolute antithesis of what should be built in 2012 Boston (or anywhere).

Slow clap for the BRA on this one.

This isn't BRA approved yet, is it? Hopefully these issues were brought up during yesterday's community meeting (doubtful).
 
These issues were raised at the community meeting last night exactly as written here.

A vast majority of attendees responded with applause for this and other points raised... none of which have to with the usual massing BS that the Globe and others like to focus on to make Fort Point and South Boston residents look like NIMBYs.

Needless to say, everyone expects this garage to be approved. The project is sailing through approvals with a prestigious tenant attached.

I might as well add that the project proponent is a developer that has been a good partner with the Fort Point neighborhood for years now. But the process is set up where the BRA is an intermediary and community input is rarely sought and barely heeded.

We learned last night that the 300,000 sf garage and (if I heard correctly) the 500,000 sf building itself will be precast concrete construction.
 
Aren't we talking about a location in the middle of A St, between the access road and Gillette? How important is street level interaction here? It'll be barely visiable from Summer St. Seems like the perfect location for a garage to me.
 
No, it's not a perfect location for a garage.

The Channel Center is the central focus of an evolving residential neighborhood, with hundreds of existing condos, live/work studios, and existing street level retail along Channel Center Street.

For those looking at the BRA's Master Plans, this area is slated to evolve as a much denser urban neighborhood, with a minimum of 2,500 residential units south of Summer Street already approved under the 100 Acres Plan.
 
The Channel Center is the central focus of an evolving residential neighborhood, with hundreds of existing condos, live/work studios, and existing street level retail along Channel Center Street.

Agree that a garage in general is not good for this area - it should be underground.

The majority of the retail along channel center street is vacant, though, right (just Barlow's)? Could this be part of the reason why more retail spots were not included?
 
Retail is slim at the moment but there are a few other retailers along Channel Center street besides Barlows including a popular destination store "Front," James Patrick Salon, a café at Rue La La and another cafe in early stage proposals.

You might agree that its not what exists today that matters, it's about the potential of Fort Point to evolve as a world-class destination/neighborhood, and also what is anticipated to develop within 5-10 years under current market conditions: at least a few hundred more residential units.
 
Retail is slim at the moment but there are a few other retailers along Channel Center street besides Barlows including a popular destination store "Front," James Patrick Salon, a café at Rue La La and another cafe in early stage proposals.

You might agree that its not what exists today that matters, it's about the potential of Fort Point to evolve as a world-class destination/neighborhood, and also what is anticipated to develop within 5-10 years under current market conditions: at least a few hundred more residential units.

Absolutely agree. I love all of the development happening in Fort Point, and this will be a huge addition for the areas growth, but your 100% on-point with your argument.

In 10 years they will begin a 10 year process debating whether or not to re-develop the garage. In a way, it seems like that is just how it goes, and the BRA knows that. They do not approve/build for the future, but for exactly what is needed at an exact period in time. I'm sure part if not all of it has to do with financing.
 
Absolutely agree. I love all of the development happening in Fort Point, and this will be a huge addition for the areas growth, but your 100% on-point with your argument.

In 10 years they will begin a 10 year process debating whether or not to re-develop the garage. In a way, it seems like that is just how it goes, and the BRA knows that. They do not approve/build for the future, but for exactly what is needed at an exact period in time. I'm sure part if not all of it has to do with financing.

If that were the case, I wouldn't be so much against it. Garages are cheap to build, go up quickly, and cheap to demolish. They could potentially pay for themselves in 10 years, which makes it not a horrible investment. Unfortunately, in 10 years it'll still be standing, and people would complain they have no place to park, and they have worked here for 10 years, and always parked in that garage....
 
^ and at that point in time it will be economically viable to bury the garage and build a building on top of it, and some developer will likely do it.
 
South Boston residents express concern over parking garage and new park at Channel Center

The Channel Center project is moving into the final phase of construction on its major development along A Street in South Boston.

Developers from Commonwealth Ventures, the proponents, were before the South Boston community Monday night to discuss the “final evolution” of their project and the construction of a new office tower, parking garage, and two parks.

While many in attendance were thrilled to see the project getting underway, many were concerned about the size of the parking structure and the lack of community involvement in the design of the two new parks in the plan.

The One Channel Center phase of the project will erect an 11-story, LEED certifiable building with 521,000-square-feet of office space, some of which will house the State Street Bank offices, as well as 4,000-square-feet of ground-level commercial space to be used for a café.

The building will be divided with a lit glass plane and a pedestrian walk-way that will cut through the building to the proposed park on the corner of A Street and West First Street.

Many residents who attended Monday night’s meeting at 10 Channel Center were curious if pedestrian access through the building would be 24/7 or if the building and walk-way would be opened only during business hours. Residents said that the park won’t always be frequented between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m., and that crosswalks and other amenities need to be implemented to encourage pedestrian use.

“It seems to me that there needs to be some acknowledgement of pedestrians trying to get to the park,” said Larry Bisoff, a Channel Center resident.

Richard A. Galvin, president of Commonwealth Ventures, said that although times for the walk-way have not been set, he expects the building to be open for most of the day and night.

The One Channel Center phase of the project also includes an above-grade nine-story parking garage with 970 parking spaces as well as space for bike and motorcycle storage. According to consultants with the development team, the garage’s eastern side will be wrapped with a graphic, designed by a local artist.

“We wanted to have a highly designed parking garage,” said Galvin.

The western side of the structure is also proposed to be wrapped in a graphic to soften the garage’s structure and appearance, but many residents said no matter what is done it is still a giant structure right in their community.

“An above-grade parking garage is not something that is suited for the Fort Point neighborhood or any neighborhood that isn’t blighted,” said Steve Hollinger, a local resident. “You don’t put a nine-story parking garage in a prime location.”

Many said the parking garage should be located underground, which was proposed in the original Proposed Development Area documents filed with the Boston Redevelopment Authority. Commonwealth Ventures has since revised the PDA. The revisions, which must be approved by the BRA Board, include the relocation proposed underground spaces to the new parking structure.

While the garage itself was a major point of contention for some residents, the feel of the structure also had many worried.

“I’m really concerned about the ground floor of the garage,” said Lisa Greenfield, a Fort Point resident. “I’d really like to see some retail; it seems like a lost opportunity.”

While many nodded in agreement, Galvin said he is more concerned about the space going unused.

“We were concerned if we put retail there it would just be empty,” said Galvin.

The larger of the two proposed parks and the perceived lack of a community voice in its development was also a concern among the 40 or so residents who attended Monday’s meeting.

“There needs to be a community process around the park,” said Valerie Burns, an area resident, president of the Boston Natural Areas Network, and member of the project’s Impact Advisory Group. “If you know the neighborhood then you know everyone is eager and ready for open space.”

Burns said the neighborhood, which is in desperate need for more open space, should have a say in what its park would look like and who it will serve.

“It’s so valuable it needs to have a lot of input,” said Burns.

The first park’s design is still in the works, but is slated to be approximately 1.6 acres and act as a gathering space for residents and employees who work in the center’s office buildings.

“For parks to be successful the users in the neighborhood need to be involved,” said Rob Adams, a landscape architect with Halvorson Design Partnership and a member of the center’s development team. “It’s essentially the gateway to the Fort Point down Iron Street.”

According to Adams, the park would be approximately the size of the South End’s Titus Sparrow Park. One of the major goals of the park is to open up and improve the A Street corridor.

Adams said possible uses for the park include a lawn, play space, plaza, and event space.

“This will not be an overly manicured park,” said Adams.

Many said they are excited for the park, but want to be more involved. An informal count of hands at the meeting showed that the majority of those in attendance would like to hold another meeting about the park and how residents can shape its process.

Concerns were also raised about the timeline of the park’s construction. Currently the park is slated as the last to be constructed in this phase of the project because the parking lot that currently resides on the park’s land will be used as a staging area for construction.

While many would have liked to see the park happening sooner, residents seemed most concerned about money being left over for its construction.

“There is concern when the park comes last,” said Burns. “All of these issues need to be acknowledged now and the process to get residents involved needs to start happening now.”

Galvin said there would be money left over for the park and his group is ready to work with the residents.

“We have an obligation to develop that park,” said Galvin. “We are willing to work with the BRA to make sure the money is still there.”

But Joe Rogers a member of the IAG and a Fort Point resident also contended that the process needs to start soon.

“I might propose the IAG meets with the BRA and lays out what needs to be done and how to bring in more residents,” said Rogers.

Another new “pocket park,” located on Iron Street, is also slated to be constructed during the One Channel Center phase.

“It should be for the residents to sit, talk, and have their coffee,” said Adams.

The smaller park will include trees and landscaping as well as a center plaza area with a “coffee table” and sitting space.

“We want to create an inwardly focused area…like a living room,” said Adams.

While many at Monday’s meeting were excited to see development start, many expressed that the project was moving too quickly and residents don’t have enough time to provide feedback.

Geoffrey Lewis, a project manager with the Boston Redevelopment Authority, said he would be happy to sit back down with residents again and there was discussion Monday night of having another meeting next week, however no formal date has been set.

Currently the developer’s revisions to the project’s PDA are in the public comment period, which ends Jun. 8

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news...p=misc:on:fb-page:HLsouthboston&dlvrit=135293
 
“We were concerned if we put retail there it would just be empty,” said Galvin.

Why is this a concern? Wouldn't you rather have empty retail until the market demands it versus no opportunity for it?
 
Because these people don't think about the future beyond the next quarterly earnings cycle. Someone else entirely could own the building by the time there's market demand for retail, so they don't want to bother outfitting the site for it or maintaining the empty storefronts until then.

This is the kind of situation where the city needs to step in and do something for the good of the city rather than letting short term profits drive the way it's developed. Isn't that what "planning" is for?
 
This is the kind of situation where the city needs to step in and do something for the good of the city rather than letting short term profits drive the way it's developed. Isn't that what "planning" is for?

Right - isn't this exactly what the BRA is for?
 
Right - isn't this exactly what the BRA is for?

No -- that is what markets and developers and owners are for.

If someone wants to buy the garage and convert part of the ground floor to retail or add a green wall on the outside -- they should be free to do so -- buying out the interests of any lots deeded parking, etc.

The BRA's roll is not to micro-manage -- but rather to define the overall requirements for the district, specify the detailed acceptable trade-offs such as FARs, and if necessary arrange the key infrastructure such as roads.

Once the Zoning or Planning Overlay District is set -- then live with the decisions until and unless the circumstances change drasticly -- e.g. the closing of the Navy Yard, taking of land for highways or in the aftermath of some natural or human caused disaster.
 
50 years from now, the BRA will be scratching their heads, wondering why the Seaport became Boston's 21st Century slum.
 
Retail is dying.

Total employment April 2002 / April 2012 in the following categories of retail stores:

Food and beverage stores
2859000 / 2834000

Clothing and clothing accessory stores
1275000 / 1322000

Sporting goods, hobby, book, and music stores
579000 / 550000

Furniture and home furnishing stores
528000 / 442000

Electronics and appliance stores
592000 / 503000
 
I don't think most people were hoping for a furniture or appliance store at Channel Center. More realistic is coffee shop, cafe, restaurant, drug store, sub shop, bodega, dry cleaner, etc... And if this is an area of new residential and growing commercial, why can't we expect new retail?
 

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