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"6. As far as ?knitting the neighborhood together? goes, another tower almost as tall as the Hancock doesn?t knit together anything. The neighborhoods are already knitted together by a latticework of main streets and cross streets, none of which are changing. "


For what it's worth, I live on Chandler Street, less than a block away from the Berkeley Street overpass. To suggest that the connections between the Back Bay and the South End would be harmed or diminished is frankly absurd. To walk between Chandler and Columbus on Berkeley street is to traverse a roaring, wind tunnel that is essentially a litter strewn no-man's land. A mixed use development with street level retail and residential entrances would create a vasty more humane and inviting streetscape.

As for the Prudential Center...YES, I think it is phenomenally better than the trainyard that it replaced.

Wow....this was exactly whast I was about to type. When I walk from Back Bay to the South End along these streets (and I do somewhat regularly) I have to end my phone conversations to traverse the Pike because it's that damn loud. Sure, that may be a bit vain, but I think it adequately illustrates how there is a jarring separation between two historically connected areas. This may not be another block of bow-front townhouses, but it will draw the area together far more than what exists. And the Pru....yes, much much better than what was there, and from an urban design standpoint, CC is miles ahead of the Pru.
 
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Ted, you posed the following question:

"What I fail to understand, sidewalks, is why you, of all people, continue to support and argue for this pollution causing project so vehemently, since you live right smack dab in the UPF pollution danger zone. Do you have a reason for thinking that getting Columbus Center built is more important than protecting your own health?"

I support the project because I don't believe the Chicken Little rants of the project opponents. I generally don't invest much trust in people who cast a position in black and white terms. And frankly, an affiliation with Shirley Kressel doesn't improve one's credibility.

What I see is a project that, on the whole, will vastly improve the area in which I live. When I talk to people in the Berkeley barber shop, where I get my hair cut, and at the Berkeley Perk Cafe, where I have my morning coffee, I generally hear the same sentiment expressed.

I simply don't buy the argument that this project will have such an environmentally adverse impact. Would I prefer to see the tracks covered? You bet. But I would rather see the project go forward without covering the tracks instead of waiting twenty years for another project to move forward.
 
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Ted,

While I do not wish to turn this into a forum on medicine, would you care to provide us with some background on UFP, its health effects and furthermore, how these effects will be exacerbated with the build out of Columbus Center? I've scoured all of the usual sources; JAMA, NEJM, and The Lancet and none of them corroborate your assertion that this is a major urban public health crisis. I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but unless you've got a something good from a reputable peer reviewed journal, you should probably shut up on the UFP topic.
 
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I thought condos were good for the environment, if the alternative is building more single-family homes.
 
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Jass, the main problem tunnels are in Baltimore. Those tunnels were constructed long before there were double deck passenger cars. I can't recall the cost to bore new tunnels, I believe it is between $500 million and $1 billion. AMTRAK uses doubledeck cars (Superliners) on its long-distance trains in the South, Midwest, and West; these have extra height because these are sleeping cars. A normal full size train for AMTRAK is a single deck passenger car.

AMTRAK has zero interest in running double deck sleeping cars between Boston and New York. (Because of the yachting community in Connecticut, AMTRAK is limited in how many trains it can run every day between Boston and New Haven along the shoreline route. The limit is basically the frequency that AMTRAK currently operates.)

As Ron points out, the MBTA has shown little interest in substituting electric motors for diesels on trains it runs along the track it shares with AMTRAK to Attleboro and Providence. As there are other MBTA routes traversing Back Bay that are not electrified, these routes would still require diesels.

Many Amtrak trains in the northeast do sell out, and if theyre running at track capacity then they should start to look into double-decker cars. Not necessarily sleepers, but just two floors of seats, like the MBTA has. Although I do think there would be a market for an upper level with private rooms for work/sleep on the Boston-DC route in at least one car per train.

Are electric engines more costly than diesels? MBTA really should get 1 or 2 for the providence route.

In an ideal world, every MBTA track would be electric, and theyd be powered by a nuclear plant in Springfield.
 
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Hello, Underground.

High density is a good thing for many reasons, one of them being less air pollution per person.

Please understand that while all types of air pollution are harmful, UFP is the worst urban environmental health problem in the world, with much higher rates of illness and death in the 1,640 feet around high-volume transportation corridors.

UFP air pollution is no reason to prohibit high-density cities, but it is a perfect reason to prohibit people from working or living inside any 1,640-foot toxic zone. California ? the same state that owns Columbus Center ? recognizes UFP?s public health risks, and already prohibits structures within California?s UFP toxic zones.

But at California?s Massachusetts venture, workers and residents will be subject to dramatically higher rates of illness and premature death. The harm to public health will result from 24x7 exposure to UFP air pollution that is captured from the corridor?s rail lanes and road lanes, concentrated in the tunnels, and released through 5 Columbus Center exhaust vents (2 mechanized vents plus 3 open-air cavities).

So, although high density is generally beneficial, UFP causes far more illness for people working and living inside the toxic zone than it does for people outside the zone.

Mr./Ms. Underground, if you understand the above, and explain it to Mr./Ms. Sidewalks ? who today lives in the 1,640-foot toxic zone and is suffering exposure rates already prohibited in California ? you could save a life.

Why? Because this project ? already scientifically proven to bring increased morbidity and mortality to his neighborhood ? is one that Sidewalks still believes would ?vastly improve? it. Of course, no mere improvement outweighs long-term illness and premature death, but Sidewalks prefers to hold his belief rather than read any of the thousands of scientific studies publicly available for decades.

Why is he in denial? He says the citizens who uncovered the UFP health risks previously criticized the Columbus Center proposal.
 
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Hi Ned,
Thanks for the response. Isn't the real issue the cars, trains, etc, and not high density? I mean, the pollution isn't coming from buildings more than it's coming from cars, is it?
 
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^^ This is an excellent point.

Obviously the Pike is an important thruway and we can't just shut it down, but in a way we are making a choice as to what is more important to us as a society, our cars or our urban fabric and, as we have done for the past fifty years, we are choosing cars.

It sort of a chicken and egg problem. We can't build more housing in the city because there are too many cars. There are too many cars because too many people live outside of the city.
 
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Many Amtrak trains in the northeast do sell out, and if theyre running at track capacity then they should start to look into double-decker cars. Not necessarily sleepers, but just two floors of seats, like the MBTA has. Although I do think there would be a market for an upper level with private rooms for work/sleep on the Boston-DC route in at least one car per train.

Are electric engines more costly than diesels? MBTA really should get 1 or 2 for the providence route.

In an ideal world, every MBTA track would be electric, and theyd be powered by a nuclear plant in Springfield.

It is easier for AMTRAK to add cars to the train sets, then to go double deck cars. The Acela is a standard six car set, the locomotives are overpowered for the set, so AMTRAK could add additional cars to the set without losing speed. However, that would require starting up a production line in VT that has long been closed. (There are no American manufacturers of railroad passenger cars anymore, but thats another story.)

I've noticed that on the AMTRAK regional trains (the non-Acelas) that more cars seem to have been added. Not that many years ago, these trains would have four or five cars, then six cars became the norm, and now it looks often to be seven.

The MBTA would probably need 6-8 electric locomotives for the Providence route; it is not a matter of cost, but the MBTA prefers having engines that it can operate over all its lines. Most other commuter railroads that use the electrified portion of the Northeast Corridor run electric motors on their commuter trains, MetroNorth in CT (which is electric but the cars do not have a separate motor for power) and the MBTA (diesels) being the exceptions.
 
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One Bryant Park, in New York. Every new building that goes up from here on should be "green". I've been reading up on that building and it's benefits to the environment are amazing. And what a perfect place for a "green" building than this pollution saturated area.
 
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Hi Ned,
Thanks for the response. Isn't the real issue the cars, trains, etc, and not high density? I mean, the pollution isn't coming from buildings more than it's coming from cars, is it?

Actually now that I reread his post, he does address this:

The harm to public health will result from 24x7 exposure to UFP air pollution that is captured from the corridor?s rail lanes and road lanes, concentrated in the tunnels, and released through 5 Columbus Center exhaust vents (2 mechanized vents plus 3 open-air cavities).

So he is saying that the development will concentrate the pollutants, thus making them worse.
However it is still the cars that are causing the pollution in the first place so my earlier point stands.
 
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I am curious. Can somebody provide me with a citation/source for a California air quality standard for UFP, and for a regulation that prohibits certain activities within a so-called UFP toxic zone? Is this a reference to the PM-10 standard? or, the PM2.5 standard?

I am asking because I can find nothing in the California air quality standards that would preclude building Columbus Center in Los Angeles or San Francisco on an identical site.
 
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Sad. After reading this thread I am finally led to register and post after just being able to read on here for the last year or 2.

Has no one realized the argument tactics being used here yet. To get something you really want, you can't base your arguments on your real objections to something. That would seem too selfish. But, if you find arguments that a whole community or even city, state, or nation can get behind.... well then you can accomplish your own needs through the illusion of looking out for others needs. It's been working for hundreds of years for politicians who want to get elected, why not neighborhood activists?

Let's get every one on board and fired up about the environmental (big buzz words these days) impacts, the unscrupulous measures taken by the developers (gasp... never), and throw a bit of government corruptness and good old fashioned conspiracy theories in there to appeal to everyone's inbred distrust of "Big Brother", and you've got yourself a movement folks. This is how you can put the brakes on a project that is going to cramp your style, block your view, bring undesirable elements into your neighborhood, raise crime, force out neighborhood stalwarts, increase traffic, noise, pollution, allow ugly neighbors, bring dogs to the neighborhood, or any other change to ones daily routine that is just not acceptable.

Many have said it already, but this city has been here since before you came, and will be here long after. (In fact I think everyone who has said that is paraphrasing Dicky Barrett without realizing it. See "They Came To Boston") The city had high rises, congestion, traffic, crime, all that good stuff that goes with a big city. If you live in the Back Bay, there's a good chance you either live in a pretty tall building or next to one. I also am willing to bet, that those big buildings are (or have in the past) cramped someone else's style. Not your problem. But try and put one in my way? No way buddy. Big buildings are a way of life in the city. Everyone knows that. Big buildings for the sake of putting up big phalluses to compete with other cities, of course not. Been there, failed at that, let's do it right from now on.

I think someone in a previous post on another thread pointed it out. Boston went down the build big everywhere route in the 50's and 60's and failed miserably, and we are still suffering for it today, so now we have the polar opposite of extreme conservatism when it comes to new scary big buildings. It's human nature. But, of course we go way too far sometimes. 13 years to build a building, ridiculous. 13 years to even begin building a building, F'ing pathetic, stupid, and moronic. If Boston wasn't already a laughingstock for the big dig fiasco, this would push it over the edge. So let's continue putting the stops to every new project that scares us, by hiding behind our good intentions of saving the planet, and continue to fall behind, lose residents, lose jobs, lose income, and ultimately lose face as a world city. That's fine as long as you have your views, your urban backyards, your smug satisfaction, and of course your healthy lungs. Because building over a highway will definitely deliver more smog to your lungs than the open overpass we have right now.

I'm not an environmental, air quality, super smart scientist guy, but the argument that being such a windy city spreads dangerous emissions is a bit narrow. Spreading emissions, dilutes emissions. Yes over a larger area, but also lower the concentrations in this magical 1,640 ft danger death zone. Scare tactics only work when you can completely hide the other side of the metaphoric argument coin. Also, Great Falls, Montana is (if memory serves from my 5th grade project) the windiest city in America. Boston is a very windy city, and as all know is windier than the famed "Windy City" of Chicago, but not quite the windiest. Sorry to be snarky, had to prove that public schooling still works. Boston could very well be the windiest "major" city. But, the argument can be used against you quite easily.

All in all. I must say the information in this post is staggering (although much more than I care to take in in a few short days.) The arguments on both sides, are for the more part well thought out, and put forth in a clear manner. I'm not trying to personally attack anyone with the above. So don't give me the 13 year old girl defense "you don't even know me". Of course not, it's an internet forum. What's more I probably don't care to know you. Doesn't mean I don't value your opinion, while disagreeing with some of it. Not that you should care what I think about your opinion. Just get over the fact that everyone on here is not 100% correct 100% of the time. If we were, it would be a boring ass place. Everyone has agendas, and beliefs, and whatnot. No amount of information or statistics is going to change peoples deep beliefs wholly. But, by all means keep trying.

Ok. Sorry, rant over. After all that, I would like to say that I am a fan of this city, and would like to see it grow in all ways possible. I also am a proponent of "smart growth". But, I'm also a fan of intelligent designs, proper use of space, and a lack of government or other outside pressures limiting and confining that growth to be short, boxy, and uninspired.

Enjoy, the rest of this thread, as it looks like arguing about the past and peoples perspectives and angles is about all you have left to discuss on this project. Pity.
 
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A whole-hearted Welcome to you SeamusMcFly!

That was a fantastic post! What a way to make an entrance. Hopefully you continue posting here.

A lot.
 
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Ted,

While I do not wish to turn this into a forum on medicine, would you care to provide us with some background on UFP, its health effects and furthermore, how these effects will be exacerbated with the build out of Columbus Center? I've scoured all of the usual sources; JAMA, NEJM, and The Lancet and none of them corroborate your assertion that this is a major urban public health crisis. I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but unless you've got a something good from a reputable peer reviewed journal, you should probably shut up on the UFP topic.

I do not claim to be an expert on UFP. I only know as much about it as has been already posted on the board. I do know, however, that other states, including California, have acknowledged that it is real important enough to establish environmental regulations prohibiting projects that create it or add to it.
 
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Seamus McFly wrote:

"13 years to build a building, ridiculous. 13 years to even begin building a building, F'ing pathetic, stupid, and moronic."

Seamus, I agree with you whole-heartedly. This 13 years, however, as was pointed out by me and by others on this forum is entirely the fault of Columbus Center developers and no one else. This project got its stamp of approval in 2003, and would have been up and running by now if they had just built it instead of whining and complaining about costs, trying to re-negotiate a lease they had just signed, sneaking around begging for public subsidies, etc. All of the delays for this project, the reasons for them and who caused them has been posted on this forum within the past couple of days.

Please keep in mind that since 2003 many other projects in Boston have already been built or are in the process of being built. I'm thinking of the Mandarin Hotel, the 285 Columbus Ave lofts, the Clarendon project on Stuart Street, and One Franklin (the Filenes building downtown), and I'm sure there are many others that I'm not aware of. Although I don't claim to know the specifics for these projects, I'd be willing to bet that the developers of these projects know what they're doing and are much more competent than Cassin/Winn.
 
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Hello, kmp1284. As requested, here?s UFP air pollution information, updated from the messages posted in summer 2007.

Q-63. What is UFP air pollution?
A-63.
The most toxic form of air pollution known is the UFP (ultrafine particulate mattter) emitted by diesel railway engines and gasoline and diesel motor vehicle engines.

First discovered in 1970, and widely recognized since 1990, scientists and public health officials have identified UFP as the worst urban environmental health problem in the modern world, greatly increasing rates of illness and death in roughly 1,640 feet around gasoline and diesel engine transportation corridors such as Boston?s I-93 and I-90.

For people who work or live within that toxic zone, opening doors or windows for ?fresh air? is never safe. But keeping them shut still lets about 50% of UFP air pollution in, because at one thousandth the width of a human hair, UFP easily passes through or around even the best doors, windows, walls, and ceilings. Commercial and residential buildings with fresh-air intake systems cause higher UFP exposure to their occupants than older, smaller buildings without such systems.

Heavy exercise ? indoors or out ? is dangerous inside a UFP toxic zone because aerobic activity greatly speeds the inhalation and absorption of UFP matter through the lungs, into the bloodstream, and throughout the body.

The National Library of Medicine has thousands of scientific studies on particulate matter, and many on UFP, most added since 1996 (when Columbus Center was first proposed).

Mitigating technology that reduces UFP exposure was identified during Boston?s Big Dig project begun in 1984, and during New York?s World Trade Center demolition work begun in 2001.


Q-64. What are the health risks of UFP air pollution?
A-64.
Ultrafine air pollution affects males and females, and all ages, including the not yet born, although different demographic groups are affected in slightly different ways.

Especially at risk are: children, older people, and anyone who is physically active within a few blocks of the transportation corridor (fine particles penetrate deeper into the most vulnerable parts of the lungs during exercise).

Short-term exposure is linked to premature death in conjunction with heart and lung disease, non-fatal heart attacks, heart rate changes, irregular heartbeat, and other illness.

Long-term exposure is linked to premature death in conjunction with lung cancer, reduced lung function, chronic childhood respiratory disease, and other illness.

Proven Health Risks of UFP Air Pollution
? 20% increase in all causes of mortality
? 50% increase in death from heart attack and lung cancer
? 44% more lung cancer deaths
? up to 50% more chronic obstructive pulmonary disease among adult women
? chronic lung problems in children 10-18 years old
? up to 100% more childhood asthma, and more frequent exacerbation
? up to 100% more early cancers for children living their first 5 years near highways
? up to 400% more teens who never reach 80% of adult lung capacity
? very high association between UFPs and cardiovascular disease
? 36% increase in low birth-weights
? 27% increase in premature births
? 300% increase in infant cardiac birth defects
? more doctor visits, emergency room care, and hospital admissions

Because of the severe harm to public health, the California Air Resources Board, a recognized authority on such air pollution, advises that no homes, parks, or day care centers should ever be inside the toxic zones of transportation corridors such as Boston?s I-90 and I-93. California?s Columbus Center hosts 5 such toxic zones. People working and living there would suffer the most exposure of all.

KEY SCIENTIFIC STUDIES

An association between air pollution and mortality in six U.S. cities.
Dockery DW, Pope CA 3rd, Xu X, Spengler JD, Ware JH, Fay ME, Ferris BG Jr, Speizer FE. N Engl J Med. 1993 Dec. 9;329(24):1753-9. Environmental Epidemiology Program, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, MA 02115.
?????Results suggest that fine-particulate air pollution, or a more complex pollution mixture associated with fine particulate matter, contributes to excess mortality in certain U.S. cities.

Particulate air pollution as a predictor of mortality in a prospective study of U.S. adults.
Pope CA 3rd, Thun MJ, Namboodiri MM, Dockery DW, Evans JS, Speizer FE, Heath CW Jr. Am J Respir Crit Care Med. 1995 Mar;151(3 Pt 1):669-74. Department of Environmental Health, Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, Mass.
?????Particulate air pollution was associated with cardiopulmonary and lung cancer mortality. Increased mortality is associated with sulfate and fine particulate air pollution at levels commonly found in U.S. cities.

Reanalysis of the Harvard Six Cities Study and the American Cancer Society Study of Particulate Air Pollution and Mortality.
Daniel Krewski, Richard T Burnett, Mark S Goldberg, Kristin Hoover, Jack Siemiatycki, Michael Jerrett, Michal Abrahamowicz, and Warren H White. Health Effects Institute 2000. Cambridge, Massachusetts.
?????Concluded that the two seminal studies were accurate in all substantive respects.

Lung cancer, cardiopulmonary mortality, and long-term exposure to fine particulate air pollution.
Pope CA 3rd, Burnett RT, Thun MJ, Calle EE, Krewski D, Ito K, Thurston GD. JAMA. 2002 Mar 6;287(9):1132-41. Department of Economics, Brigham Young University, 142 FOB, Provo, UT 84602, USA. cap3@email.byu.edu.
?????Long-term exposure to combustion-related fine particulate air pollution is an important environmental risk factor for cardiopulmonary and lung cancer mortality.

Spatial analysis of air pollution and mortality in Los Angeles.
Jerrett M, Burnett RT, Ma R, Pope CA 3rd, Krewski D, Newbold KB, Thurston G, Shi Y, Finkelstein N, Calle EE, Thun MJ. Epidemiology. 2005 Nov;16(6):727-36. Department of Preventive Medicine, Keck School of Medicine, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, California 90089-9011, USA. jerrett@usc.edu
?????Lung cancer death rates increase 44% in zip codes where the population is concentrated within 500 meters of highway intersections.

Association between mortality and indicators of traffic-related air pollution in the Netherlands: a cohort study.
Hoek G, Brunekreef B, Goldbohm S, Fischer P, van den Brandt PA. Lancet. 2002 Oct 19;360(9341):1203-9.
?????Long-term exposure to traffic-related air pollution may shorten life expectancy.

The effect of air pollution on lung development from 10 to 18 years of age.
Gauderman WJ, Avol E, Gilliland F, Vora H, Thomas D, Berhane K, McConnell R, Kuenzli N, Lurmann F, Rappaport E, Margolis H, Bates D, Peters J. N Engl J Med. 2004 Sep 9;351(11):1057-67. Department of Preventive Medicine, University of Southern California, Los Angeles 90089, USA. jimg@usc.edu Erratum in: N Engl J Med. 2005 Mar 24;352(12):1276.
?????Current levels of air pollution have chronic, adverse effects on lung development in children aged 10-18 years, leading to clinically significant breathing deficits as children reach adulthood.

Air Quality and Automobile Emission Control, 4 Volumes
A Report by the Coordinating Committee on Air Quality Studies, Prepared for the Committee on Public Works, United States Senate, US Government Printing Office 1974.
?????Primary emissions are more damaging to local health than secondary emissions are to regional health.


Q-65. Was UFP air pollution disclosed by Columbus Center?
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No.

The 2003 Columbus Center proposal was obligated to incorporate the mitigating technology identified for Boston?s Big Dig in 1984 and for New York?s World Trade Center demolition in 2001. Despite the obligation to itemize the harmful health impacts of UFP, the developers omitted all mention of it from all proposals, including:

■ Environmental Notification Form #1 (54 pages, 15 March 2001)
■ Environmental Notification Form #2 (72 pages, 30 November 2001)
■ Scoping Determination (501 pages, 5 April 2002)
■ Draft Environmental Impact Report (2,740 pages, 21 November 2002)
■ Final Environmental Impact Report (1,331 pages, 15 May 2003)

Because the owners never disclosed the existence of UFP or the ten-fold increase caused by the project ? captured in the corridor, concentrated in the tunnels, and exhausted via vents ? UFP was never recognized, measured, or addressed during any of the governmental reviews over the last 13 years.


Q-66. How does Columbus Center exacerbate the problem ten-fold?
A-66.
The Massachusetts Turnpike Authority?s tunnel ventilation plan, approved in 2003, calls for a 3-mile tunnel enclosing Interstate 90. That tunnel, when combined with the proposed Columbus Center, will build at least 14 air pollution exhaust vents in residential neighborhoods across the city.

These vents will capture, concentrate, and exhaust tunnel-based air pollution from 7 railway lanes and 8 roadway lanes. With fans installed every few blocks across the 3-mile corridor, each vent will exhaust pollution in amounts about ten times greater than what rises evenly out of the entire open-air canyon today.

Venttablemap03-Apr-2008.jpg


Cubic feet/minute above are from Conceptual Ventilation Study for the Civic Vision for Turnpike Air Rights in Boston, written by Sverdup/Parsons Brinckerhoff under contract to MTA, 19 March 2003. Vent location and impact area map above is adapted from Turnpike Master Plan (MTA, 28 June 2000) and Final Environmental Impact Report (Columbus Center company, 15 May 2003).

Public subsidy applications filed by the City of Boston and California?s Columbus Center certified that the proposal would enclose all the air pollution in airtight tunnels and improve air quality in nearby streets, neighborhoods, and surrounding areas. But the approved plans do nothing to manage UFP. Instead, they dramatically increase its exposure rates.

No airtight seals were proposed, reviewed, approved, or imposed. The approved plans don?t improve air quality, or enclose the rail lanes, because air pollution from the 7 rail ways and 8 road ways would be captured, concentrated, and exhausted through 14 exhaust vents, affecting thousands of employees and residents in a toxic, 1,640-foot diameter around each vent. Of the 14 vents across I-90, five are at Columbus Center.

Five-Pollution-Points.jpg
 
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This project got its stamp of approval in 2003, and would have been up and running by now if they had just built it instead of whining and complaining about costs, trying to re-negotiate a lease they had just signed, sneaking around begging for public subsidies, etc.

Yes but thankfully it wasn't because it was, according to the newest information from Ned, the South End would make the Killing Fields look like a day at the beach. People would be dropping like flies. Charles Dickens would be compelled to taking up writing again.
 
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Welcome Seamus!


edit: I hate the structure of Ned Flaherty's posts.
 
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Mitigating technology that reduces UFP exposure was identified during Boston?s Big Dig project begun in 1984

Do the Big Dig vents have filters? I recall some controversy over the subject at the time, but not the final outcome.

Electrification of the railroad lines still seems like the real solution to this problem.
 
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