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Can we settle one of the questions right here? Is the property that Simon wants to build upon 'public land' ? I thought it was Simon's property.
 
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Here's a legal definition of public land:

Land that is owned by the United States government.

Public land refers to the public domain, unappropriated land belonging to the federal government that is subject to sale or other disposal under general laws and is not reserved for any particular governmental or public purpose.

Much of this land was acquired early in the history of the United States as a result of purchases, wars, or treaties made with foreign countries. The federal government used this land to encourage growth, settlement, and economic development. Land that was not developed, homesteaded, or sold remained in federal ownership as public land. Today, the federal government employs principles of land use planning and environmental protection to preserve the natural resources and scenic beauty found on public land.

Public Domain:
n.
Land owned and controlled by the state or federal government.
The status of publications, products, and processes that are not protected under patent or copyright.


Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/public-domain#ixzz1PkI0nXqO

A quick look at Simon's property portfolio shows:


Name Type City, State Simon Legal Ownership Interest Year Built / Acquired Gross Leasable Area
Copley Place Regional Mall Boston (MA) 98.1000 2002 1242000

So I believe that Simon Malls does own the property and it's not public land. Good point brought up by Ron and another problem averted.
 
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Legal contracts mean nothing in the city of Boston anyways... E-line, anyone?
 
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Actually, most people who live, work and drive near Simon Property's proposed "Neiman Marcus Tower" construction project don't want this "Big Dig"-type project to be built.

From an aesthetic point of view, turning the corner of Stuart & Dartmouth Street into an ugly construction site for at least 3 years (assuming that the debt-ridden Simon Property firm and Neiman Marcus's debt-ridden parent company don't run out of money in the middle of the project, like the folks who left a big hole at the old Filene's site near Downtown Crossing, etc.) in order to further Manhattanize the Back Bay with a skyscraper that shadows 20% of Copley Square will actually make the neighborhood less attractive.

Adding construction trucks and 1,700 construction workers to a one-lane street so close to a Mass Turnpike exit ramp, like Dartmouth St., for at least 3 years (and adding at least 300 more luxury residential car owners' cars there forever) will only further gridlock and clog Back Bay and South End neighborhood traffic flows during rush hours.

What actually lowers rents for Boston's remaining working-class, middle-class and upper-middle-class tenants and students is when the supply of affordable housing units within Boston is increased by constructing many more low-rent and moderate-rent apartment buildings in Boston--not just building more luxury condominium skyscrapers in neighborhoods (like the Back Bay) where existing luxury condominium skyscrapers (like the one at Clarendon and Stuart, which has stil not yet found buyers for 40 percent of its luxury condominium units) still are often left vacant for years.

Rents for working-class, middle-class and upper-middle-class tenants and students in Boston who don't have Section 8 vouchers can actually be brought down more rapidly by both regulating the rents of all rental units in Boston apartment buildings containing more than 6 units (as they do in New York City) and by constructing more apartment buildings whose rents will be affordable to tenants who don't have section 8 vouchers than by constructing another economically and racially segregated luxury apartment building in the Back Bay--in possible violation of city, state and federal fair housing laws--at Copley Place.

This "Option C" approach (which would be financed by having billionaire families like the Simons start to pay more than only $12.9 million annually in commercial real estate taxes for owning malls like Copley Place) actually makes more sense than the option a) and option b) approach that jass mentions, which seems to reflect some neo-con economic myths about what is supposed to bring down rents for unsubsidized Boston tenants.

Speaking of the wealth of the Simon family whose firm wants to push its "Neiman Marcus Tower-Big Dig" boondoggle on the backs of people who live, work and drive in the Back Bay and South End neighborhoods, the Indianapolis Business Journal recently published the following article about how the Simons have apparently been spending their surplus capital in recent years:

"Bren Simon may have lost control over her late husband’s multibillion-dollar estate, but for now she can do as she wishes with the palatial homes they collected over the years.

"And Bren, a 68-year-old interior designer known for budget-busting tastes, is taking full advantage. She sold a New York City condo for $48 million in March, and is trying to sell a mansion in Los Angeles for $50 million.

"The properties she controls—which also include lavish spreads in London; Washington, D.C.; Aspen, Colo.; and Carmel—are not part of the high-profile $2 billion estate dispute with her stepchildren.

"But that could change. The plaintiffs’ complaint suggests that Bren bought many of the properties after Melvin was diagnosed with dementia in 2006, during the period she was supposed to be acting in the interests of Melvin and the beneficiaries of a family trust. Bren had some of the homes titled in her name only and others titled jointly, allowing them to pass directly to her—outside the estate—when the shopping mall mogul died in September 2009.

"Bren has continued to buy and sell properties even as her attorneys fought unsuccessfully to overturn her removal as trustee over Melvin’s estate.
In late March, Bren sold a 6,000-square-foot condominium on the 12th floor of the Plaza hotel in Manhattan for $48 million—reportedly the most ever paid for a New York City condo. Melvin and Bren had bought two units in the Plaza with views of Central Park for about $37 million in 2007 and combined them. The buyers: Russian composer Igor Krutoy and his wife, Olga.

"She’s asking $50 million for a 20,000-square-foot home known as Bellagio House in the exclusive Bel Air neighborhood of Los Angeles. The couple paid about $28 million for the home in 2006, spent another $9 million acquiring a neighboring property, and invested millions more to outfit the property.

"The Bel Air home has a movie theater, indoor spa and gym, underground 10-car parking garage, 16 bathrooms and eight bedrooms, including a 2,000-square-foot master bedroom—about the size of the average single-family U.S. home, based on Census data.

"Bren also may be quietly courting potential buyers for Asherwood, her 43,000-square-foot home and private golf course west of Ditch Road between 96th and 106th streets in Carmel. The home cost a rumored $55 million to build, more than a decade ago. She also owns a three-story `city home' in the Village of West Clay.

"Buying and selling pricey homes is nothing new for Bren. She and Melvin bought and sold several homes since they married in 1972, but the pace of deals appears to have picked up in recent years. And none of the homes came with a mortgage.

"An attorney for Bren, DLA Piper partner Marianne Schmitt Hellauer of Baltimore, referred questions to Anton Valukas, chairman of the Chicago-based law firm Jenner & Block. Valukas did not return a phone message by press time.

"Attorneys for Deborah Simon, one of Melvin’s children from a previous marriage, also declined to comment. Deborah Simon claims Bren coerced Melvin to make changes to his estate plan seven months before he died, all so Bren could inherit a greater share. Bren says the changes reflected Melvin’s wishes.

"One of the most prominent properties the Simons have owned is Villa de Venezia, a 52-room home near Palm Beach, Fla., built by Harold K. Vanderbilt in 1929. Melvin and Bren hosted a party for Bill Clinton while he was president and a fundraising dinner for Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the U.S. Senate at the property, which has a private dock, tennis courts, a two-bedroom guest house and a three-bedroom beach house.

"They bought Villa de Venezia for $6 million in 1986, and sold it in 2000 for almost $30 million—a single-home record for Florida at the time—to Veronica and Randolph Hearst.

"The Simons paid $6 million for a 10,300-square-foot ski house in Aspen and $2.5 million for the four-bed, four-bath Beaux-Arts home in the Village of West Clay, according to The Real Estalker, a dishy blog that described Bren and Melvin as `unrepentant real estate size queens.'

"Bren maintains a home in the Georgetown neighborhood of Washington, D.C., that she acquired a few years back in hopes of landing a political appointment in a Hillary Clinton administration. But she has sold properties in the Dominican Republic and Turkey, a source said.

"In May 2010, a few months after she listed the Bel Air mansion, Bren bought 100 acres in Ventura County, Calif., for $21 million and plans to build a mansion there, The Wall Street Journal reported.

"If Bren opts to sell Asherwood, the Carmel property would most likely carry an asking price of more than $40 million, an unprecedented sum for the state, said Jeffrey Cohen, founding principal of Encore Sothebys International Realty of Indianapolis.

"Cohen, whose firm has listings for about 20 central Indiana properties with asking prices of $1 million or above, said he has not heard any indication Bren plans to sell the home.

"However, she never put the New York City condo up for sale officially before it sold in March. (The seller of the property is a limited liability company that has Bren’s attorney as its registered agent.)

"A broker likely would market Asherwood to an international audience; breaking up the property to build more homes probably would not be financially feasible since the market for estate lots is weak, Cohen said.

"Bren considered donating the mansion to Indiana University, but the roughly $1 million in annual upkeep scuttled the deal.

"`It’s beautiful, incredible, an extraordinary property,' Cohen said. `You’d be hard-pressed to find anything like Asherwood in the Midwest. There aren’t many like it in the country or the world.'”•
Indianapolis Business Journal, April 23, 2011
 
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From an aesthetic point of view, turning the corner of Stuart & Dartmouth Street into an ugly construction site for at least 3 years (assuming that the debt-ridden Simon Property firm and Neiman Marcus's debt-ridden parent company don't run out of money in the middle of the project, like the folks who left a big hole at the old Filene's site near Downtown Crossing, etc.) in order to further Manhattanize the Back Bay with a skyscraper that shadows 20% of Copley Square will actually make the neighborhood less attractive.

This is the dumbest fucking argument I've ever seen.
 
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Did you guys ban Ned and he came back under this alias? These arguments are petty, who cares about what the Simon family does. Last time I checked investment in Boston is a good thing. Jobs are a good thing. Tax revenue is a good thing. Why don't you just come out and say "I don't want anything in my neighborhood to change and yes I realize that it is extremely selfish but I don't give a fuck" ....I'd for one respect you a lot more.
 
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Actually, most people who live, work and drive near Simon Property's proposed "Neiman Marcus Tower" construction project don't want this "Big Dig"-type project to be built.

From an aesthetic point of view, turning the corner of Stuart & Dartmouth Street into an ugly construction site for at least 3 years (assuming that the debt-ridden Simon Property firm and Neiman Marcus's debt-ridden parent company don't run out of money in the middle of the project, like the folks who left a big hole at the old Filene's site near Downtown Crossing, etc.) in order to further Manhattanize the Back Bay with a skyscraper that shadows 20% of Copley Square will actually make the neighborhood less attractive.

Therefore nothing should ever be built in Boston again
How is this another 'big dig' or is the the new scare tactic?
Ned it must be killing you not to be able to use your air pollution scare on this one.
 
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"Big Dig"-type project
Filene's site
Manhattanize
shadows 20% of Copley Square
construction trucks
neighborhood traffic flows
boondoggle

Well, this guy hit all the NIMBY talking points.

Throw in something about illegal immigration and a mosque and we have the entire checklist.


One question:
Apparently, 1,200 new construction jobs is a bad thing. Apparently any type of construction is terrible and will destroy neighborhoods. Traffic, noise, dust, oh the horrors.


But when said construction happens in poor neighborhoods, it's fantastic?


Funny how that works.



And seriously, how the fuck is a new tower a "big dig" type project? In what universe?
 
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This is the dumbest fucking argument I've ever seen.

X2

I thought that NIMBYs loved to shop at neiman marcus...no? If anything, NMW should be championing this project. It fits his demographic. Reduced height. Perfect shopping.

Anyways NMW, if you think that it's "too tall" here, then go to Manhattan. Seriously, I think that if people have a problem with height, then go live in Austin or Orlando.
 
Re: Copley Place plan calls for condo tower

Actually, most people who live, work and drive near Simon Property's proposed "Neiman Marcus Tower" construction project don't want this "Big Dig"-type project to be built.

From an aesthetic point of view, turning the corner of Stuart & Dartmouth Street into an ugly construction site for at least 3 years (assuming that the debt-ridden Simon Property firm and Neiman Marcus's debt-ridden parent company don't run out of money in the middle of the project, like the folks who left a big hole at the old Filene's site near Downtown Crossing, etc.) in order to further Manhattanize the Back Bay with a skyscraper that shadows 20% of Copley Square will actually make the neighborhood less attractive.

Adding construction trucks and 1,700 construction workers to a one-lane street so close to a Mass Turnpike exit ramp, like Dartmouth St., for at least 3 years (and adding at least 300 more luxury residential car owners' cars there forever) will only further gridlock and clog Back Bay and South End neighborhood traffic flows during rush hours.

What actually lowers rents for Boston's remaining working-class, middle-class and upper-middle-class tenants and students is when the supply of affordable housing units within Boston is increased by constructing many more low-rent and moderate-rent apartment buildings in Boston--not just building more luxury condominium skyscrapers in neighborhoods (like the Back Bay) where existing luxury condominium skyscrapers (like the one at Clarendon and Stuart, which has stil not yet found buyers for 40 percent of its luxury condominium units) still are often left vacant for years.

Rents for working-class, middle-class and upper-middle-class tenants and students in Boston who don't have Section 8 vouchers can actually be brought down more rapidly by both regulating the rents of all rental units in Boston apartment buildings containing more than 6 units (as they do in New York City) and by constructing more apartment buildings whose rents will be affordable to tenants who don't have section 8 vouchers than by constructing another economically and racially segregated luxury apartment building in the Back Bay--in possible violation of city, state and federal fair housing laws--at Copley Place.

This "Option C" approach (which would be financed by having billionaire families like the Simons start to pay more than only $12.9 million annually in commercial real estate taxes for owning malls like Copley Place) actually makes more sense than the option a) and option b) approach that jass mentions, which seems to reflect some neo-con economic myths about what is supposed to bring down rents for unsubsidized Boston tenants.

Speaking of the wealth of the Simon family whose firm wants to push its "Neiman Marcus Tower-Big Dig" boondoggle on the backs of people who live, work and drive in the Back Bay and South End neighborhoods, the Indianapolis Business Journal recently published the following article about how the Simons have apparently been spending their surplus capital in recent years:

"Bren Simon may have lost control over her late husband’s multibillion-dollar estate, but for now she can do as she wishes with the palatial homes they collected over the years.

"And Bren, a 68-year-old interior designer known for budget-busting tastes, is taking full advantage. She sold a New York City condo for $48 million in March, and is trying to sell a mansion in Los Angeles for $50 million.

"The properties she controls—which also include lavish spreads in London; Washington, D.C.; Aspen, Colo.; and Carmel—are not part of the high-profile $2 billion estate dispute with her stepchildren.

"But that could change. The plaintiffs’ complaint suggests that Bren bought many of the properties after Melvin was diagnosed with dementia in 2006, during the period she was supposed to be acting in the interests of Melvin and the beneficiaries of a family trust. Bren had some of the homes titled in her name only and others titled jointly, allowing them to pass directly to her—outside the estate—when the shopping mall mogul died in September 2009.

"Bren has continued to buy and sell properties even as her attorneys fought unsuccessfully to overturn her removal as trustee over Melvin’s estate.
In late March, Bren sold a 6,000-square-foot condominium on the 12th floor of the Plaza hotel in Manhattan for $48 million—reportedly the most ever paid for a New York City condo. Melvin and Bren had bought two units in the Plaza with views of Central Park for about $37 million in 2007 and combined them. The buyers: Russian composer Igor Krutoy and his wife, Olga.

"She’s asking $50 million for a 20,000-square-foot home known as Bellagio House in the exclusive Bel Air neighborhood of Los Angeles. The couple paid about $28 million for the home in 2006, spent another $9 million acquiring a neighboring property, and invested millions more to outfit the property.

"The Bel Air home has a movie theater, indoor spa and gym, underground 10-car parking garage, 16 bathrooms and eight bedrooms, including a 2,000-square-foot master bedroom—about the size of the average single-family U.S. home, based on Census data.

"Bren also may be quietly courting potential buyers for Asherwood, her 43,000-square-foot home and private golf course west of Ditch Road between 96th and 106th streets in Carmel. The home cost a rumored $55 million to build, more than a decade ago. She also owns a three-story `city home' in the Village of West Clay.

"Buying and selling pricey homes is nothing new for Bren. She and Melvin bought and sold several homes since they married in 1972, but the pace of deals appears to have picked up in recent years. And none of the homes came with a mortgage.

"An attorney for Bren, DLA Piper partner Marianne Schmitt Hellauer of Baltimore, referred questions to Anton Valukas, chairman of the Chicago-based law firm Jenner & Block. Valukas did not return a phone message by press time.

"Attorneys for Deborah Simon, one of Melvin’s children from a previous marriage, also declined to comment. Deborah Simon claims Bren coerced Melvin to make changes to his estate plan seven months before he died, all so Bren could inherit a greater share. Bren says the changes reflected Melvin’s wishes.

"One of the most prominent properties the Simons have owned is Villa de Venezia, a 52-room home near Palm Beach, Fla., built by Harold K. Vanderbilt in 1929. Melvin and Bren hosted a party for Bill Clinton while he was president and a fundraising dinner for Hillary Clinton’s campaign for the U.S. Senate at the property, which has a private dock, tennis courts, a two-bedroom guest house and a three-bedroom beach house.

"They bought Villa de Venezia for $6 million in 1986, and sold it in 2000 for almost $30 million—a single-home record for Florida at the time—to Veronica and Randolph Hearst.

"The Simons paid $6 million for a 10,300-square-foot ski house in Aspen and $2.5 million for the four-bed, four-bath Beaux-Arts home in the Village of West Clay, according to The Real Estalker, a dishy blog that described Bren and Melvin as `unrepentant real estate size queens.'

"Bren maintains a home in the Georgetown neighborhood of Washington, D.C., that she acquired a few years back in hopes of landing a political appointment in a Hillary Clinton administration. But she has sold properties in the Dominican Republic and Turkey, a source said.

"In May 2010, a few months after she listed the Bel Air mansion, Bren bought 100 acres in Ventura County, Calif., for $21 million and plans to build a mansion there, The Wall Street Journal reported.

"If Bren opts to sell Asherwood, the Carmel property would most likely carry an asking price of more than $40 million, an unprecedented sum for the state, said Jeffrey Cohen, founding principal of Encore Sothebys International Realty of Indianapolis.

"Cohen, whose firm has listings for about 20 central Indiana properties with asking prices of $1 million or above, said he has not heard any indication Bren plans to sell the home.

"However, she never put the New York City condo up for sale officially before it sold in March. (The seller of the property is a limited liability company that has Bren’s attorney as its registered agent.)

"A broker likely would market Asherwood to an international audience; breaking up the property to build more homes probably would not be financially feasible since the market for estate lots is weak, Cohen said.

"Bren considered donating the mansion to Indiana University, but the roughly $1 million in annual upkeep scuttled the deal.

"`It’s beautiful, incredible, an extraordinary property,' Cohen said. `You’d be hard-pressed to find anything like Asherwood in the Midwest. There aren’t many like it in the country or the world.'”•
Indianapolis Business Journal, April 23, 2011

I think this option is better.

A) You and all your NIMBY friends who tried to bring law without doing research against the project, take your little suburban asses out of a global city and head to Metro West or Western, MA. I heard Springfield, MA is the perfect city for you.
 
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What actually lowers rents for Boston's remaining working-class, middle-class and upper-middle-class tenants and students is when the supply of affordable housing units within Boston is increased by constructing many more low-rent and moderate-rent apartment buildings in Boston--not just building more luxury condominium skyscrapers in neighborhoods (like the Back Bay) where existing luxury condominium skyscrapers (like the one at Clarendon and Stuart, which has stil not yet found buyers for 40 percent of its luxury condominium units) still are often left vacant for years.

Rents for working-class, middle-class and upper-middle-class tenants and students in Boston who don't have Section 8 vouchers can actually be brought down more rapidly by both regulating the rents of all rental units in Boston apartment buildings containing more than 6 units (as they do in New York City) and by constructing more apartment buildings whose rents will be affordable to tenants who don't have section 8 vouchers than by constructing another economically and racially segregated luxury apartment building in the Back Bay--in possible violation of city, state and federal fair housing laws--at Copley Place.

And don't give me this shit. Whenever the developers try to put up low-rise affordable housing, especially those that are around 8-12 stories tall, you NIMBYs fight tooth and nail to bring it down to 4-6 stories tall and half the amount.

YOU GUYS ARE RUINING THIS CITY. GO AWAY PLEASE!
 
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in order to further Manhattanize the Back Bay with a skyscraper that shadows 20% of Copley Square will actually make the neighborhood less attractive.

Manhattan is probably the greenest place in the US, has incredibly vibrant and lively neighborhoods, has absolutely beautiful buildings, and is a model for how many cities should be geared. If you don't like it, go to your exurb with your clearcut yard and 10 MPG Hummer without a single other building for you to frown your sour puss at.

Adding construction trucks and 1,700 construction workers to a one-lane street so close to a Mass Turnpike exit ramp, like Dartmouth St., for at least 3 years (and adding at least 300 more luxury residential car owners' cars there forever) will only further gridlock and clog Back Bay and South End neighborhood traffic flows during rush hours.

First of all, 300 cars is NOTHING. And just because there's 300 residents doesn't mean 300 cars, this is a city afterall. And 300 cars does not mean 300 cars driving in and out every day, THIS IS A CITY AFTERALL.

More traffic also means higher use of public transit. The construction would be a blessing in disguise. You and your buddies who live nearby shouldn't be driving everywhere in a city with great public transit. And any interference from construction (if any at all) will only result in more incentive for people to take transit.

What actually lowers rents for Boston's remaining working-class, middle-class and upper-middle-class tenants and students is when the supply of affordable housing units within Boston is increased by constructing many more low-rent and moderate-rent apartment buildings in Boston--not just building more luxury condominium skyscrapers in neighborhoods (like the Back Bay)

Many low rent buildings can end up looking like shit and being built with cheap materials. A nice, classy building built very well would be nice. High luxury vacancy means lower prices for luxury units. The markets will balance themselves out and bring better units for cheaper prices to the people.

can actually be brought down more rapidly by both regulating the rents of all rental units in Boston apartment buildings

No. Learn some fucking economics. Stop regulating the hell out of every damned thing.

>Insert my unrelated bullshit here<

Boo hoo.
 
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Let me venture a guess that our new dear friend here is somehow associated with a proponent of subsidized housing and following the usual talking points leading to a shakedown.
 
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Regarding who owns the land, it's owned by the Massachusetts Department of Transportation/MTA, a public agency, which apparently leases it to Simon Properties, the owner of Copley Place mall.

Since about 20 percent of all architects in the USA and a large percentage of unionized U.S. construction workers have been jobless in recent years, a public works program which created both more affordable residential units in Boston and more jobs for local architects and construction workers is obviously needed.

But pushing an unpopular "Big Dig-type" construction program that mainly benefits special private corporate interests (like the billionaires who own Neiman-Marcus and Simon Property) into neighborhoods that will receive no public benefit from the building of this luxury skyscraper just ends up alienating most people who live, work, drive, shop and visit the Back Bay. According to a New England court ruling in the 1931 Thayer vs. Hartford decision:

"The subsitution for an old building of a new one--three times larger--with a corresponding increase in the nonconforming use...is permissible only for circumstances more compelling than the improved physical appearance of the premises or a more advantageous financial return to the owner."

So even if Simon Property and Neiman Marcus eventually are required to provide Back Bay and South End residents, workers and drivers with some specific financial figures which document their actual financial need to expand the over-priced store and add an over-priced residential skyscraper so close to the corridor park and Copley Square, unless an actual public benefit from this "substitution for an old building of a new one" can be demonstrated, its legality will probably be eventually challenged in court.

Regarding the issue of whether or not a significant amount of tax revenue is going to be created by this particular project when balanced against the public costs created by setting up cranes and detours on a construction site so near to the John Hancock skyscraper wind tunnel and Mass Pike exit ramp, etc.: Increased tax revenue can also be obtained, for example, by beginning to tax "non-profit" institutions like Harvard, BU, Northeastern, etc. as if they were for-profit corporations, by adding a sales tax to out-of-state shipments of goods purchased by tourists in the Neiman Marcus store, and by imposing some kind of commuter tax (like NYC used to do) on all commuting executives who live in the suburbs but work in Boston and earn over $200,000 per year, etc.

For an alternative approach to providing more jobs for unemployed Boston architects and local construction workers during the current endless economic recession, readers might be interested in checking out the following recent press release from the AFL-CIO Housing Trust blog:

"News
"HIT Invests $58 Million to Build Boston’s Charlesview Apartments
"5/17/2011
"The AFL-CIO Housing Investment Trust (HIT) announced today it will invest $58.2 million of union pension capital in construction of the new Charlesview Apartments in Boston. With a total development cost of $152 million, the project will build 240 units of affordable rental units, while creating approximately 860 union construction jobs.

"The Charlesview Apartments, which will be built in Boston’s Brighton neighborhood, will replace an older 213 apartment development of the same name located approximately two blocks away. The new development will also have 213 units of affordable housing while adding another 27 housing units. The new complex features townhouse and mid-rise apartment buildings, as well as parking and over 23,000 square feet of retail and community space. Current tenants will be relocated to the new development.

"`This substantial new investment from the AFL-CIO Housing Investment Trust will help Boston address the ever-growing demand for high quality, affordable housing,' said Boston Mayor Thomas Menino. `We value the commitment the HIT has demonstrated over the years to meeting the diverse housing needs of our residents, especially low-income households and working families.'

"John J. Sweeney, Chairman of the HIT and President Emeritus of the AFL-CIO, said, `The HIT is proud to be part of the Charlesview development team that is working to maintain good, affordable housing in Boston.'

"Of the Charlesview’s 240 units, 221 will be set aside for households that meet Section 8 or Low Income Housing Tax Credit eligibility. The remaining 19 will be reserved for current Charlesview residents without income restrictions.

"To help finance the project, the HIT has partnered with The Community Builders, the largest nonprofit urban housing developer in the country, and MassHousing, the state housing finance agency. The HIT is providing bridge loans through the purchase of $34.7 million of tax-exempt bonds and $23.5 million of taxable bonds from MassHousing. `The HIT’s investment has helped leverage additional capital to make this much-anticipated housing project a reality,' said Tom O’Malley, director of the HIT’s New England Regional Office in Boston.

"All on-site construction work at Charlesview Apartments will be performed by 100% union labor.

"`With construction unemployment still unacceptably high here in Boston, these family-supporting jobs will mean a lot to our members,' said Martin J. Walsh, Secretary-Treasurer and General Business Agent, Metropolitan District Building and Construction Trades Council. `This is a major project that will keep hundreds of union members working as it meets the need for affordable housing for local residents.'

"In addition to Charlesview, three other HIT-financed projects are currently in progress in Boston, generating an estimated 650 union construction jobs. The projects are:

"Washington Beech: The HIT invested $13.5 million for construction of 56 affordable rental units at this public housing property in Roslindale, in cooperation with the Boston Housing Authority and MassHousing.

"Old Colony: The HIT invested $26.7 million to help redevelop Boston’s most distressed public housing property, with construction of 116 units of affordable housing and a 10,000-square-foot community center. This is part of the $56.8 million first phase of a revitalization effort by the Boston Housing Authority and MassHousing.

"Franklin Park: The HIT invested of $25.7 million to support the $34 million rehabilitation of 220 scattered site residential units in Boston’s Dorchester and Roxbury neighborhoods.

"The jobs created by the Charlesview project have helped the Housing Investment Trust exceed its goal of creating 10,000 union construction jobs in less than two years through its national Construction Jobs Initiative. Launched in mid-2009 to help communities in need of good jobs and affordable housing, the Construction Jobs Initiative has produced or preserved more than 9,600 housing units on 32 projects in 18 cities across the country, including Boston, Chicago, Minneapolis, New York, St. Louis, and San Francisco.

"The Charlesview investment is part of the HIT’s Massachusetts Housing Initiative, through which the HIT has supported over $448 million of housing development and preservation since 2007, with investments of $187 million, creating more than 2,300 housing units and 2,100 union construction jobs."
 
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When and if plans will be finalized for this project, it will bring badly needed investment into the city. The last major project in the city was 33 Arch St back in 2004(?). Since then the city hasn't presented much of a steady job for construction workers. Now with the economy slowly improving, hopefully it will give projects like this one a boost. The poor constructions crew will finally be employed, receive a higher income, and be able to consume more which will further help improve the current economy condition. Those seeking to stall projects with excuses and faking genuine concerns about the workers and the economy should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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@ Ned Flah --- I mean, NeimanMarcus:

What is this bizarre court ruling you bring up? Do you really think that any developer can only build if he proves some sort of subjective "social merit"? If that were the case, we'd all be sleeping in tents.

I don't know why you've jumped on this project with a singlemindedness eerily similar to the way Ned Flaherty once terrorized this forum, but the notion that the only allowable development in Boston is "public-works programs" is utterly unfounded. I don't know where you've learned about urban planning, development, or real estate law, but one gets the feeling that Fidel Castro turns out to have owned an apartment in the Back Bay, and that he's very jealous of his views.

As for the "public land" issue, if it were the case that the city owned the land and various stipulations applied to any modification of the buildings thereon, wouldn't the city, which is in the midst of analyzing and approving this proposal, bring that fact up? Wouldn't it also be relevant for the "Avalon Exeter" proposal for the Prudential Center (which presumably would have similar urban-renewal-era land-use stipulations attached to it, if they actually exist)?
 
Re: Copley Place plan calls for condo tower

When and if plans will be finalized for this project, it will bring badly needed investment into the city. The last major project in the city was 33 Arch St back in 2004(?). Since then the city hasn't presented much of a steady job for construction workers. Now with the economy slowly improving, hopefully it will give projects like this one a boost. The poor constructions crew will finally be employed, receive a higher income, and be able to consume more which will further help improve the current economy condition. Those seeking to stall projects with excuses and faking genuine concerns about the workers and the economy should be ashamed of themselves.

Again, +1.
 
Re: Copley Place plan calls for condo tower

I still can't believe that a construction site is being hailed as a negative for this city, which, as Kent mentioned, has been relatively stalled in high-rise construction for nearly 8 years. A construction site means progress and most importantly, jobs & economy. I can also assure you that we know how to build skyscrapers in a confined city-setting in 2011.

Also, the Copley Pl garage can more-than-handle ~300 extra cars. There are entire sections of the Blue and Red garages that are constantly vacant.
 
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