Crazy Transit Pitches

Re: Seaport Transportation

I always assumed that any sort of rail to the airport would...

1) be elevated, a'la the air-train
2) have a single station stop at central parking (already connected to all the terminals), not individual ones at each terminal. I would imagine the train running between two garages.
I like it! Beware the Future Terminal E expansion, though. I think they still plan to put more landslide (or parking?) along today's Central Garage <--> E connector (I can't remember if the central utilities plant in the E zone gets redone or moved) so it may not quite work to elevate a station/track there.
 
Here's mine:

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Yellow is the ring, with blue for stations. Red is the end of the line (temporarily). There's tail tracks to allow for storage, bringing disabled equipment off, allowing higher station entry speeds to the last station, etc.

Keep in mind the B garage would need to be removed and rebuilt around the station, or heavily modified if possible. Eventually that line would continue out to the Seaport, eventually making a full circuit.

I'd design it for Red Line rolling stock (plus room for pantographs), but might have to temporarily share rolling stock with the Orange Line until it is eventually linked to the Red Line.
 
I'd design it for Red Line rolling stock (plus room for pantographs), but might have to temporarily share rolling stock with the Orange Line until it is eventually linked to the Red Line.

If you connect it into the Red Line, how do people connect to it? If you're coming from South Station (or Broadway, not sure where it would connect) or down, you're fine, but no other lines meet the Red Line in that stretch. All transfers occur to the north, where you would have to take an outbound train and transfer to an airport-bound train somewhere. Basically, passengers not originating in South Boston, Dorchester, Quincy, Mattapan, etc. would still find it faster to take the Blue Line and the bus.

If you're going to extend an HRT line into the airport (which I'm still not convinced you need to do), Blue is really the best choice, since it would connect to all of the other lines Downtown with Charles MGH. If you assume the Blue Line is extended somewhere from there, the line becomes less stubby.
 
I don't think an HRT stub works for the airport.

-- Blue is not set up to branch like this because of lack of inbound storage yard and Orient Heights Yard being on only one of the branches. Downtown is fully capable of absorbing twice the headways with a linear extension to Lynn-and-beyond and more storage capacity being added at Orient Heights or beyond. But there's an acute supply problem when 1 branch has to fork off early and operate yardless or nearly yardless. Red-Blue @ Charles MGH still has only a couple trainsets worth of storage in its design, and you're not going to find enough room on this terminal stub/loop to put a storage yard that can maintain 5-min. headways at peak + margin of error.

-- Affects run-as-directeds the most. Things go in/out of service for shift changes, mechanical problems, schedule corrections, etc. all day every day. Not just when service is borked or with off-peak/on-peak changes; usually totally seamlessly. So with extremely limited storage space, which you have to assume at any given moment could be half taken up by a disabled train in storage, the options for dispatching trickery to keep everything fluid are limited. Means the airport headways are going to be 1) more inconsistent than anywhere else because of limited resiliency, and 2) probably not as frequent as initially hoped.

-- The only plausible way to fix the inconsistencies and supply problem is to vulture slots from Wonderland/Lynn every time something gets out of alignment, which makes the branch of much higher ridership and rider dependence take it on the chin with their headways and service reliability. Logan wields the big stick on political clout, so they will absolutely do this. Can't rob from the poor and create new forms of transit inequity to force-fit a project. That usually is a pretty damning indictment of the project's design flaws.

It's not impossible, but the margin of error is so thin it's very kludgy. Unless there was literally no other way to get to the airport this isn't going to be the first-choice build of any modern transit engineer.


Also. . .

One of HRT's few disadvantages vs. LRT, BRT, or bus is that load times are a little bit longer on 6 cars x 4 doors each than they are with a smaller vehicle, and starts/stops not quite as nimble. There's a slight performance penalty when platforms are spaced extremely close together like they'd be at each Logan terminal. Or the Orange Line between State/DTX/Chinatown because of how weirdly that very old-timey HRT tunnel (built before transit planners has perfected the art of building HRT tunnels) is spaced out. The OL can at least make up for that small penalty by having wide, very modern stop spacing and storage spacing cleanroomed in the last 39 years everywhere else en route smoothing out those kinks in flow. But it's going to be a sluggish trip around the terminals on a 6-car BL train which in turn makes traffic-managing a stub with precariously low yard space that much more difficult.


Simplify. The Urban Ring is suppost to reach Airport station on trolleys.
-- Light rail originates in a direction (North Station, Sullivan, Everett, Chelsea) that has far inferior semi-direct transit access to Logan than Blue + shuttle bus or SL1. Hell, if they don't fix lack of SS-downtown connection escalating congestion on Red alone puts all these folks ever further from a painless Logan trip with each passing year.
-- Light rail has better potential short-turn options, alt routing options from Cambridge and BU via that UR flank, and cross-platform transfer options out the wazoo with all the branches at Lechmere, GC/Park, etc.
-- Light rail has the humongous Innerbelt yard and small North Station yard able to feed it.
-- Because of the storage and turning options above, light rail is way easier to take a few cars and configure the interiors with luggage racks SL1-style and maintain a small fleet of airport-equipped trolleys at low cost (if it's a modular setup where seats and racks can snap-out/snap-in should they need to rotate car assignments). You'd never be able to install racks on a storage-constrained Blue stub that could be in-service as a Lynn crowd-swallower at any given moment.
-- An LRT terminal El can share its ROW with buses, where HRT can't. Given how extremely limited the space is to layer new transportation options vertically on top of the current terminals, I think killing 2+ birds with one stone is way better traffic management than choosing 1 mode to the exclusion of others. Have this GL/UR branch join SL1 on a combined terminal Transitway along with any other 'officially sanctioned' (i.e. not rental car shuttle) bus routes as a collector/distributor loop and you've probably got the best and most efficient possible use of very limited real estate at Logan. Cheaper and pays back its cost much faster.
 
If you connect it into the Red Line, how do people connect to it? If you're coming from South Station (or Broadway, not sure where it would connect) or down, you're fine, but no other lines meet the Red Line in that stretch. All transfers occur to the north, where you would have to take an outbound train and transfer to an airport-bound train somewhere. Basically, passengers not originating in South Boston, Dorchester, Quincy, Mattapan, etc. would still find it faster to take the Blue Line and the bus.

If you're going to extend an HRT line into the airport (which I'm still not convinced you need to do), Blue is really the best choice, since it would connect to all of the other lines Downtown with Charles MGH. If you assume the Blue Line is extended somewhere from there, the line becomes less stubby.

I'm not sure what you're saying. I think you might be thrown off by my "connect to the Red Line", by which I meant a non-revenue connection, purely for equipment sharing, not a actual branch of the Red Line.
 
I'm not sure what you're saying. I think you might be thrown off by my "connect to the Red Line", by which I meant a non-revenue connection, purely for equipment sharing, not a actual branch of the Red Line.

Ah, well, you could see how I might have gotten confused... :)
 
I like the DC Circulator idea. It's actually useful transit in DC (and Baltimore, too). You know, after coming back from Chicago and SF, I think we could use more buses in general. I was astounded by how many bus routes criss-cross Chicago, frequently, and some of them 24/7. Does help that they have a well-defined grid of streets, though.


I think on further reflection about my proposed loops it is questionable whether they are an effective distributor of Kendall / Lechmere transit. Even though walking around East Cambridge from these stops always feels longer than it should I am not sure whether there are many trips that are truly longer than 15m to Central, Kendall, Union or Lechmere. Therefore waiting 5m for a 10 to 15m headway bus, traveling 5m to 10m and then walking 3 to 5m is never going to be faster than your own two feet. Now if the purpose is to move the less able, or deal with poor weather, or carrying groceries etc. it may still be worth it.

But I would also like to consider a proposal 'B' based on the issue of getting from the far flung areas to the transit line of your destination (i.e. Orange, Green, Red, or Commuter / North Station). In this case getting from West Campus MIT or Cambrdigeport or University Park to Orange line or North Station involves a long walk a Red line to DTX and a transfer. Or getting from East Camrbidge, Cambridgeside, Twin Cities, Brickbottom to Red or even Orange requires a Green trip to Park or a long walk to Orange and DTX.

So instead of the short loops proposed above, proposal B suggest a longer 'cross-town' bus route that begins to look something like the Urban Ring. It would bolster Charlestown / Somerville / Cambridge connections, access to the broad Kendall Sq employment and entertainment district, allow a different interurban transfer point. It would seek to build efficient and fast cross-town connections through Urban Ring style work of grade separation and priority and direct routes. It would use buses. It would not rely on a total Urban Ring Concept. It could be standalone.

I'll have to come back with a further drawn out option. But for the moment here's an idea on a map.

Potentially 3 crosstown routes roughly linking Orange line and North Station crosstown with Green, Kendall business district, MIT, Red and Cambridgeport. One line from each of the Orange lines Sullivan, Community, North Station.

North Station is not shown, but is similar to my other proposal A bus loop from NS. Community is roughly shown below and is given priority, but is hopefully on 'fast-moving' cross streets - Gilmore / Charlestown Bridge, Land Blvd, Main, Broadway, Albany.

The Crazy part of Proposal B is Sullivan square through Brickbottom and a Grand Junction path to BU Bridge hopefully making a mostly dedicated right of way with only a few true live grade crossings - Cambridge, Broadway, Mass Ave.

The idea not fully fleshed out here, is a new underpass of the rails at Sullivan to Brickbottom. Follow old railway path through Cobble Hill, New Washington. Meet the south backside of the new Green line station at Washington. Connect Brickbottom. Dive under mainline railroad at south side of Wash Station. Create new right of way or take over street and/or remove some buildings from Joy St to Poplar St to Medford for two-way dedicated bus lane. Clean intersection at grade of new grounded Mcgrath. New right of way next to and east of Medford St, enlarged underpass at railway, and enter Grand Junction right of way after Warren St. Now straight shot down GJ path, absolute priority over Bristol.

Grade crossing and signal wait at Cambridge St and Broadway. Then either a right turn on Main or stay on GJ and continue to far West end of MIT and Cambridgeport. I will try to draw it out clearer later.

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But somehow it feels 'better' than the proposed Urban Ring. Perhaps it isn't. But UR feels like a convoluted mess. Maybe it's just the consequence of seeing the tragedy of the Silver line.
 
Oh, I should have been clearer. The DC and Baltimore Circulators are not loops. They are a collection of fully fledged, actually useful, two way bus routes that run at high frequency through most of the day.

Loops are bad transit, in most cases.
 
Oh, I should have been clearer. The DC and Baltimore Circulators are not loops. They are a collection of fully fledged, actually useful, two way bus routes that run at high frequency through most of the day.

Loops are bad transit, in most cases.

Matt,

What are a couple of characteristics about loops that are bad transit?
 
One way loops have the issue of non-overlapping walksheds (you need to be 1/4 mile or less from two stations, one in each direction) and the guarantee that one direction of travel for a given roundtrip will be an inefficient route. Two way loops are often too small to provide time advantages over walking/cycling, especially the "downtown circulators" that are popular in many cities.
(There, did I do a good job paraphrasing Humantransit?)
 
One way loops have the issue of non-overlapping walksheds (you need to be 1/4 mile or less from two stations, one in each direction) and the guarantee that one direction of travel for a given roundtrip will be an inefficient route. Two way loops are often too small to provide time advantages over walking/cycling, especially the "downtown circulators" that are popular in many cities.
(There, did I do a good job paraphrasing Humantransit?)

Ok. Thanks, that makes sense. So the loop isn't the problem. The bad part is having stops in different directions at too large a remove from one another.
 
But I would also like to consider a proposal 'B' based on the issue of getting from the far flung areas to the transit line of your destination (i.e. Orange, Green, Red, or Commuter / North Station). In this case getting from West Campus MIT or Cambrdigeport or University Park to Orange line or North Station involves a long walk a Red line to DTX and a transfer. Or getting from East Camrbidge, Cambridgeside, Twin Cities, Brickbottom to Red or even Orange requires a Green trip to Park or a long walk to Orange and DTX.

Ok. So here's what I wanted to show.

An extended use of the Grand Junction would allow a Orange and Green connection through East Cambridge and Kendall Sq and then to BU or Coolidge or lower Allston or Longwood.

Starting from the North. Green is the main route. Thick purple is a viaduct and thick blue is an underpass (or potential underpass). The other lines are branching routes described further below.

The main difference to the proposed Urban Ring is to connect to Washington St and Sullivan instead of New Lechmere. And to use more of the railroad ROW. And to heavily limit turns, intersections and mixed running.

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A close up of the Brickbottom section is here.

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The main trunk would go from Sullivan Square (orange) to Washington St (green) to Kendall Sq (red) to BU (green B) to Coolidge (green C) or Longwood.

A viaduct at Sullivan Station leaves west over the Orange and CR lines and under I-93. It curves and drops down to grade to go below Washington St. basically next to the CR tracks. (I am not sure of the status of the scruffy farthest tracks to the west, I am assuming this ROW is available).

It follows the tracks along New Washington St. It drops below grade before meeting the south side of the new GLX station. After which it goes under the tracks and turns south on Joy St. I am not sure of the GLX viaduct here. It could use that right of way under it, but I think they have a center pylon. Or it could take all the property between Joy St and the GLX. Or it could take over Joy St either in total or mixed traffic with severe limitations on the traffic.

It turns and goes down Poplar St. There is tons of width here for good running with dedicated lanes. It then crosses a newly designed grounded McGrath to Medford St, but in its own dedicated lanes. (you could underpass McGrath, but hopefully with a new design it will be clean.

Then East of Medford St two full lanes are reserved. This is where there is an easement and an outright property taking. Then a right turn is completed and you cross Medford St with complete signal priority.

Then a straight shot down Grand Junction. Full signal priority at Binney. But more even handed at Cambridge, Broadway, Main and Mass. I am going to say it's possible to underpass at Landmark Theatres to Binney, Broad, Main and Mass. But I know F-line disagrees. I do not wish to rehash this argument, just to say it may be possible or at least studied.

I would also say there should be a definite connection to Kendall. Whether its a covered walk, an underground passage, a western exit at Kendall. Whatever. Again, this argument has been had before.

Where to end this alternate line? Cheapest - Cambridgeport, next BU, next Coolidge Corner, next Longwood centre, next Longwood (green), next Ruggles.

I have started to show some alternatives to the DEIR tunnel. But I do not really have answers, just some thought provoking.

First idea, GJ to BU. Connect to Green line. Expedite Green B line from Kenmore to here. Rebuild this building on the SW corner. Underpass of Pike and tracks, or at Comm Ave grade with separate road crossing. Create easy transfer to Green.

Second idea - serious alternative to proposed Urban Ring.

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Tunnel under Pike and tracks and onto Armory St (magenta). Possibly take on of the buildings on the south side to create a new station. Run buses in mixed or as pseudo dedicated on Armory until Beacon. There are only two street crossings and they can be made complete priority to bus. Do a deal with Armory St residents, in exchange for buses limit car traffic to only private resident uses. Maybe an electronic control. Agree to somewhat restrictive speed limits or similar. At the moment there is tons of traffic trying to take a cutoff from Brookline to the BU bridge that speeds through here. Bottom line do I think the residents or Brookline will ever agree to this? Probably not, it's just a suggestion in the CTP thread. Ok so after Armory you take a right (new intersection required) on Beacon and end at Coolidge Corner. Maybe use the C-line tracks as well, but probably not. This could create a great relief valve for commuters from Brookline to Kendall Sq, and maybe even 66 from Coolidge to Harvard, if the red line transfer can be made easily. There is only the Beacon St turn and no other road crossings until Mcgrath (if GJ underpass is used).

I have also started to lay out a path to Longwood (red). Obviously this would be continued to Ruggles etc. Similar or different to the presently proposed Urban Ring. For now, I leave this as incomplete.


I now turn back to other alternates on the northern half. The light blue, brown and grey show viable but more mixed traffic running routes to North Station (and maybe Community), New Lechmere, and Assembly Station. It tries to cover some broader swaths of East Cambridge, but also brings you across the Charles to the southern terminus (wherever that is). The thin black line is an alternate path along the railways through Brickbottom.
 
Am I missing something, or is all that tremendously overcomplicated?
 
Am I missing something, or is all that tremendously overcomplicated?

The explanation or the proposal?
Sorry if the explanation is complicated. It's hard to draw with Google maps, so more has to be described with words.

The proposal is pretty similar to the Urban Ring except:
- it connects to Washington St/Sullivan not Lechmere
- it seeks to avoid mixed traffic and two turns on Washington St and so it crosses at a different grade, this could be eliminated
- it crosses the Brickbottom tracks in a different place
- it uses a longer stretch of the Grand Junction to avoid intersections
- it crosses a newly designed McGrath and not the super busy O'Brien hgwy at Lechmere.

South of the Charles - it's complicated. But so is the Urban Ring.
Feel free to ignore the additional northern branches.

It tries to create a better route than the Urban Ring.
Is it a better proposal? Maybe not.
Is it more complicated? I don't think so.
 
Tunnel under Pike and tracks and onto Armory St (magenta). Possibly take on of the buildings on the south side to create a new station. Run buses in mixed or as pseudo dedicated on Armory until Beacon. There are only two street crossings and they can be made complete priority to bus. Do a deal with Armory St residents, in exchange for buses limit car traffic to only private resident uses. Maybe an electronic control. Agree to somewhat restrictive speed limits or similar. At the moment there is tons of traffic trying to take a cutoff from Brookline to the BU bridge that speeds through here. Bottom line do I think the residents or Brookline will ever agree to this? Probably not, it's just a suggestion in the CTP thread. Ok so after Armory you take a right (new intersection required) on Beacon and end at Coolidge Corner. Maybe use the C-line tracks as well, but probably not. This could create a great relief valve for commuters from Brookline to Kendall Sq, and maybe even 66 from Coolidge to Harvard, if the red line transfer can be made easily. There is only the Beacon St turn and no other road crossings until Mcgrath (if GJ underpass is used).

First of all, it's Amory Street, not Armory, and secondly, it is a very nice, quiet street with a wildlife sanctuary (one of the nicest spots in all of inner metro Boston) and two very pleasant parks. If the purpose of mass transit is to shove down people's throats in the most obtrusive way possible, than running a bus line on this street would be a good idea. Amory is used but not heavily so, certainly not "tons of traffic", and speeds are limited by two stop signs on its short length. It's a pleasant street for driving, biking, and walking. No, CTP or not, Brookline residents would never "agree to this" which speaks to nothing other than the fact that this would utterly ruin something great.
 
I think the previously mentioned idea for the B line branching off at BU to head north into Allston is a winner. Have that line leave from Kenmore, and then set out a new tunnel from Kenmore heading into the LMA -> Dudley -> points deeper into the heart of the city (Franklin Park or Dorchester). Somewhere around Dudley it could come out of the ground and run as a streetcar. Forget connecting Kendall - it's not even that inconvenient to go way downtown for Kendall, much more so for Harvard.
 
I have absolutely no idea what's going on on those maps, so can't even begin to make sense of what's being proposed here. But here's two killers with a bullet:

-- There is no way you're cannibalizing all of Pan Am's remaining freight tracks around BET. Including the ones the GLX carhouse doesn't destroy. Boston Sand & Gravel is the highest-revenue freight customer in Massachusetts, and Everett Terminal the largest port-to-rail installation in the state. You can't really be serious about taking an icepick to all that commerce for the luxury of having 80 different UR routings?

-- You want to take buildings on Amory St. and dig a tunnel through it? You realize they tried to float this once for the Innerbelt Expressway tunnel, and associated infrastructure...well, have you driven the Innerbelt Expressway tunnel through Brookline lately? The last UR plan had that costing billions and faring just as futilly with the neighborhood.


And what does this do differently from the UR? The UR hit both Sullivan and Lechmere. Brickbottom is practically carpet-bombed with transit on 3 sides. No part of the neighborhood is more than a 1500 ft. walk from a rapid transit station. Why does East Cambridge need 2 branches a block apart? Lechmere, Kendall, Twin City, Cambridge St., Broadway: any of those approximate station locations are 2000 ft. or less from every point in-between. Why is there is a branch to Assembly when the real-deal UR hits Assembly just before crossing the river? No one in East Somerville is more than 2500 ft. from a rapid transit station with Gilman Sq., Washington, Sullivan, and Assembly there. Where is the demand for branching off on the C here? What the hell are the one-seat patterns even supposed to be with this thing having so many forks and loops? What intersections and turns are you eliminating when the northern UR (if LRT) was entirely grade separated everywhere except maybe Main and Broadway? This map looks like it's adding a zillion turns and intersections.


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