guitarguynboston
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This is definitely a good idea and should be done but I'd consider this sorta the replacement that should have been built for the old El.
I'm not always great at wording out my thoughts. Let me try again. I meant a new line that would benefit the area that hasn't had it before or has BRT. Like Lynn really needs the Blue Line but that's already been proposed and such.
I was thinking of a decently populated city that could benefit with a fast environmently friendly transportation option to the Boston area but couldn't really fit with just branching another line or causing problems to our already strained system. Red to Waltham has been discussed but a proposal say from there to Newton, Lynn, Everett, Dorchester etc without following spoke and wheel.
We definitely already need a Urban Ring and it's been proposed and study but what about another ring further out or even closer to the center.
What got me thinking about a new subway line was that Boston isn't the only big destination anymore. We have Kendall, the Seaport, LMA, that have alot of jobs plus housing. Why must we travel to Boston center to reach any of those destinations? Why was it so much easier for my husband when we first started dating for him to move in and commute from my apartment in the Fenway vs his in Southern when his work was in the BackBay?
If I can find my old maps from early 2000s that I created with Google Maps of some ideas I'll post them.
I'm not always great at wording out my thoughts. Let me try again. I meant a new line that would benefit the area that hasn't had it before or has BRT. Like Lynn really needs the Blue Line but that's already been proposed and such.
I was thinking of a decently populated city that could benefit with a fast environmently friendly transportation option to the Boston area but couldn't really fit with just branching another line or causing problems to our already strained system. Red to Waltham has been discussed but a proposal say from there to Newton, Lynn, Everett, Dorchester etc without following spoke and wheel.
We definitely already need a Urban Ring and it's been proposed and study but what about another ring further out or even closer to the center.
What got me thinking about a new subway line was that Boston isn't the only big destination anymore. We have Kendall, the Seaport, LMA, that have alot of jobs plus housing. Why must we travel to Boston center to reach any of those destinations? Why was it so much easier for my husband when we first started dating for him to move in and commute from my apartment in the Fenway vs his in Southern when his work was in the BackBay?
If I can find my old maps from early 2000s that I created with Google Maps of some ideas I'll post them.
Funding is not a factor? And we want this to be one single line, without altering existing lines, and just trying to serve the most need? Based on your parameters, I'll go with:
Brown Line: Mattapan to Chelsea, with stations at:
Tunneling under Blue Hill Ave, Warren St, Washington St, the New York Streets, and the Central Artery Tunnel is crazy.
- Mattapan Square (connection to Mattapan Trolley)
- Woodhaven Street (connection to Fairmount Line)
- Mattapan Library
- Morton Street
- Talbot Ave
- Franklin Park
- Grove Hall
- MLK Jr Blvd
- Nubian
- Mass Ave
- Union Park
- Ink Block
- South Station (connection to Red/Silver Line, Commuter Rail, and Amtrak)
- Aquarium (connection to Blue Line)
- Haymarket (connection to Orange/Green Line)
- North Station (connection to Orange/Green Line, Commuter Rail, and Amtrak)
- City Square
- Navy Yard
- Admirals Hill
- Bellingham Square
- Chelsea Station (connection to Newburyport/Rockport Line and Silver Line)
The rest of it may be god mode.
It hits your parameters as it would:
Debatably, it converts the SL4/SL5 to a subway, but that isn't necessarily entirely true. BRT could still exist on the surface at Washington Street, and I wouldn't say the nature of this line is a true conversion of the SL to subway. More that this line would serve much of the same ridership that is currently being served by the SL4/SL5.
- be an entirely new line, not a branch of any existing line
- "hit two city centers on each end of the line that would serve an area that needs it" (Chelsea and Mattapan), not to mention serving Roxbury.
- "keep a balance on the current system without creating more chock points," and in fact would help relieve quite a few chokepoints, including Nubian, South Station, Haymarket, and North Station.
It definitely serves the city's needs and even provides a one-seat ride between North Station and South Station.
It would be a boondoggle of a project though, especially north of North Station, and might possibly get in the way of NSRL, which is out of scope of your prompt though.