Encore Boston Harbor Casino | 1 Broadway | Everett

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To all the people suggesting a pool, there are really only 3 full months a year that a pool can operate around here. June, July and August. Sure, parts of May and September might also be doable depending on the weather but we routinely get 60 degree temps in both months especially the first part of May and later in September. These mega pools need to be heavily staffed and you can't just decide the day before based on the weather forecast to open or close. A pool at Encore would be nice but it is not going to make a lick of difference in their revenue numbers. Indoor entertainment options (like a venue for shows. concerts etc.) are a completely different story though. They need to find ways to get people in the door who have no interest in playing $25 hands of blackjack but still are willing to spend money on other forms of entertainment.
 

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A pool isn't required unless they aren't filling rooms. But if they felt it necessary, I could see some sort of massive green house with an all season pool and garden.
 

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To all the people suggesting a pool, there are really only 3 full months a year that a pool can operate around here. June, July and August. Sure, parts of May and September might also be doable depending on the weather but we routinely get 60 degree temps in both months especially the first part of May and later in September. These mega pools need to be heavily staffed and you can't just decide the day before based on the weather forecast to open or close. A pool at Encore would be nice but it is not going to make a lick of difference in their revenue numbers. Indoor entertainment options (like a venue for shows. concerts etc.) are a completely different story though. They need to find ways to get people in the door who have no interest in playing $25 hands of blackjack but still are willing to spend money on other forms of entertainment.
Here's Harrahs in AC

Indoor pool by day



Famous club by night




 

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If I'm reading this right, theyre underperforming expectations but not exactly struggling. The thing about a casino is that you have essentially guaranteed profit in the gaming operation. And all the revenue trends cited here are month on month comparisons, not same month year on year (for obvious reasons). If you told me that January was slow season for a resort casino in the northeast, I'd believe you. I'm sure all the other hotels in town, and the entertainment venues, have less revenue in January than in, say, August. And I'm sure most of the European tourists come in August.

Yes I know they have a huge debt load, and that they have to pay royalties to the state lottery. But I think Encore is probably underperforming but not exactly struggling.

MGM in Springfield is probably another story.
CSTH -- the BIG Elephant in the room is of course Sports Betting. With one of the [if not the] major player in Fantasy Sports, Massachusetts Legislature's love of gambling revenue, and now approaching a year experience with real casinos -- I'm having a hard time seeing why the Legislature hasn't drafted the Sports Gambling Bill

Perhaps the revenue from Sports Gambling can be devoted to the T and other Infrastucture
 

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2/23 from The Fells

IMG_0427 by David Z, on Flickr
DZH -- photo is a nice mix of Vegas Casino and Industrial Vibes -- it looks like the hotel is in the midst of the Mystic Generating Station

Encore should take advantage of the proximity -- cut a deal with Exelon Power to allow tours of the old units of the Mystic Station -- there is some historic generation technology [associated with the shorter thin smokestacks] which would attract an international pool of engineering junkies
 

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Encore doesnt even have locks on the doors it was reported in multiple places, because they had planned to never close again once opened. I wonder what theyre using to lock the doors..
 

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Encore doesnt even have locks on the doors it was reported in multiple places, because they had planned to never close again once opened. I wonder what theyre using to lock the doors..
I wonder about the truth of that reporting. That sounds like a line for the public. I'd be surprised a major building can be built in the 21st Century that is incapable of being locked down.
 

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Encore doesnt even have locks on the doors it was reported in multiple places, because they had planned to never close again once opened. I wonder what theyre using to lock the doors..
Probably security people standing there to turn people away.
 

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Encore doesnt even have locks on the doors it was reported in multiple places, because they had planned to never close again once opened. I wonder what theyre using to lock the doors..
Don't believe everything you read.
 

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Don't believe everything you read.
I dont believe it, but thats what they made sure to tell the public in multiple media forms, I even heard it mentioned on the sports hub radio show so it looks like their bluff will either be called, or they really were telling the truth and so now theyre adjusting to the current situation.

Anyways they already were well under what they were hoping for revenue wise so this has to really be hurting them. Nobody could have predicted this though so they have no choice but to ride it out like the rest of us. Itll be interesting to see what they do once this blows over to try to make up for it. Probably some pretty big deals and promotions to get people playing again asap.
 

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I dont believe it, but thats what they made sure to tell the public in multiple media forms, I even heard it mentioned on the sports hub radio show so it looks like their bluff will either be called, or they really were telling the truth and so now theyre adjusting to the current situation.
It’s not an either/or. They could have been telling the truth Obi-wan style from a certain point of view. Maybe the doors don’t have typical locks, but are able to be locked down. I dunno. I’d guess they told a half truth.
 

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Doesn't matter whether it's physical locks, there is without a doubt, a way to secure the building. Any statements about doors that can't lock were just their way of saying that it would be open 24/7/365. They can absolutely prevent people from entering the building. As for the financial hit, they have deep pockets, they have business disruption insurance, they'll be fine.
 

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FYI, there are locks on the doors to the building. I've been unable to enter the doors by the conference spaces because they're locked from the outside, and even the front doors adjacent to the rotating door are locked time-to-time, allegedly to affect guest flow and/or prevent outdoor smokers from contaminating air quality inside (particularly next to the Sinatra restaurant).
 

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Encore doesnt even have locks on the doors it was reported in multiple places, because they had planned to never close again once opened. I wonder what theyre using to lock the doors..
I saw an article about a Vegas place that had to call a locksmith in to redo all their locks. The doors had locks, but no one had the keys, since theyd never been used
 

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