Encore Boston Harbor Casino | 1 Broadway | Everett

Suffolk 83 said:
I just read on curbed boston that the ferry from Boston will be $7 each way? I thought this was going to be free!
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^They'll probably knock that $7 charge off/reimburse when you spend money at the property. (validated boat rides)....perhaps free spins on the slots, which will end up in the casino's coffers anyway. :p
 
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3 water taxis x 35 people each = 105 people. Approximately every 20 minutes (or 30 minutes), so a capacity of 105 people per hour.

A nice amenity most of the rest of the year, but it will barely make a dent in the numbers for peak hours they are expecting for opening week.
 
dshoost88 said:
Parking is all underground. The whole resort site was raised above a below-grade and at-grade garage to proactively address climate resiliency concerns.
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I saw the big excavation when they were building, but for some reason I thought there was an at grade section or even a second floor. I can't see to find floor plans anywhere at the moment.

Either way, you could loop around the building to the main entrance. I don't see it being a big problem if there is enough clearance to put a road under the tracks closer to the river and then cars can drive around the back to the front entrance to the garage.
 
Well according to the Globe, it looks like Encore came up with a great solution to mitigate for the amount of cars that drive to the casino in the first place.

Jim Folk, Encore’s executive director of transportation, acknowledged the cars will be rolling in. The casino will have some 3,000 parking spots — and they’re not free; $22 for six hours or less, and $42 for six to 24 hours. Prices will be higher for valet parking, though lower at a remote parking lot in a different part of Everett.
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I've been to maybe 60+ casinos; however, this is the first one I've ever heard of that will charge for parking. I think it's a smart move--especially since one of Wynn Resorts' key promises from the get-go was that their goal is to draw visitors to the region, not from the region. The $42/day cost to park is market rate on par with Downtown and Back Bay.
 
This is what Assembly was worried about. Casino goers parking for cheap/free then using the to be built PED bridge across. Expect parking rates to rise all around the area!
 
dshoost88 said:
The $42/day cost to park is market rate on par with Downtown and Back Bay.
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Yes, but this is $42 bucks with the virtual guarantee of losing more money. I mean, these casinos don't pay for themselves! So now, instead of parking for free and then losing 150 bucks, I'll make the conscious decision to not go at all. That's $108 extra dollars that Wynn won't be clawing out of my pocket!
 
dshoost88 said:
Well according to the Globe, it looks like Encore came up with a great solution to mitigate for the amount of cars that drive to the casino in the first place.



I've been to maybe 60+ casinos; however, this is the first one I've ever heard of that will charge for parking. I think it's a smart move--especially since one of Wynn Resorts' key promises from the get-go was that their goal is to draw visitors to the region, not from the region. The $42/day cost to park is market rate on par with Downtown and Back Bay.
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They just priced out the everday working class group that would gamble on the weekdays. Looks like they are only targeting groups with real money. Rich and upper elite class. They do not want regular average Joe in this place.

The casino will be the rich and upper class political elite country club for the weekend. No real money get out.
 
I looked it up and turns out I was wrong about other casinos. Wynn charges $30/day to park at their Vegas Resort (free for hotel guests). They pulled in $1.7 billion in revenue from that resort (most profitable on the Strip), and that's with the competition of other casinos in the neighborhood.

They know what they're doing.
 
TheMagicMan said:
They just priced out the everday working class group that would gamble on the weekdays. Looks like they are only targeting groups with real money. Rich and upper elite class. They do not want regular average Joe in this place.

The casino will be the rich and upper class political elite country club for the weekend. No real money get out.
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That was their stated intent from the very beginning of the entire project.
 
falcon42 said:
This is what Assembly was worried about. Casino goers parking for cheap/free then using the to be built PED bridge across. Expect parking rates to rise all around the area!
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Freeloader parking concerns can be easily mitigated with some validation scheme from the retailers/restaurants at Assembly. First two hours free would still be viable for the retail experience without even bothering with validation because it isn't enough time to walk to the casino and actually do much of anything then walk back. And after the first two hours validation by the restaurants and the movie theater could extend that to 3 1/2 hours free before parking fees kick in. Then the fees on top of that are a money maker for Assembly without negatively impacting their own businesses.
 
This brings up an ironic thought. The casino is going to be a place for only high-end rich people. At such parking prices, not even well-paid professionals of Boston would really want to come.

But if it fails... it's not going to just lay fallow. I'm pretty sure in almost any scenario would involve opening it more as a place for more local-level people to enjoy. Possibly even still employing plenty of people (which is the biggest current benefit for locals) but then also a place more than just for the super outsider rich.
 
ant8904 said:
This brings up an ironic thought. The casino is going to be a place for only high-end rich people. At such parking prices, not even well-paid professionals of Boston would really want to come.

But if it fails... it's not going to just lay fallow. I'm pretty sure in almost any scenario would involve opening it more as a place for more local-level people to enjoy. Possibly even still employing plenty of people (which is the biggest current benefit for locals) but then also a place more than just for the super outsider rich.
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This will never fail. The casino is already booked out for 14 months. If they get the 4:30 AM liquor license its entirely new ballgame.

This will be a party scene which will cater to the corporate functions and who's who in Boston.

Boston's new country club open all night
 
ant8904 said:
This brings up an ironic thought. The casino is going to be a place for only high-end rich people. At such parking prices, not even well-paid professionals of Boston would really want to come.

But if it fails... it's not going to just lay fallow. I'm pretty sure in almost any scenario would involve opening it more as a place for more local-level people to enjoy. Possibly even still employing plenty of people (which is the biggest current benefit for locals) but then also a place more than just for the super outsider rich.
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You've apparently never been to Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun. Most of the patrons are senior citizens who come on buses with free meal and play vouchers. The mega rich only come on Friday and Saturday nights. Casinos rely on middle income people to survive. This applies to the Wynn Las Vegas, the Borgata in Atlantic City and every other major casino. The Encore Boston Harbor will be no different.
 
There will be a lot of people not arriving via SOV. I didn't realize how many of you simply don't get around via transit, but plenty of people will be on the trains and buses, etc. And plenty of people will pay the parking fee - including people who arrive all in the same vehicle, and split the cost of parking.
 
Really, hardly anybody other than a professional gambler is likely to arrive solo. Casino gambling is a social activity for most people, I can't imagine going to one without a group of buddies. Aside from opening weekend and occasional other high draw moments, I suspect this will not cause the traffic melt down people fear.
 
HenryAlan said:
Really, hardly anybody other than a professional gambler is likely to arrive solo. Casino gambling is a social activity for most people, I can't imagine going to one without a group of buddies. Aside from opening weekend and occasional other high draw moments, I suspect this will not cause the traffic melt down people fear.
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The casino hasn't even opened. Have you ever driven down 99 now?:sad:
 
TheMagicMan said:
The casino hasn't even opened. Have you ever driven down 99 now?:sad:
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To be fair, a ton of the traffic snafu keeps the endless closures of of the lanes. While it still backs at that traffic light, it doesn't turn painful unless a lane closes. Which still happens a lot even if the bridge no longer in perma-construction.
 
HenryAlan said:
How is current congestion in any way related to whether or not the casino will add to that congestion? :?:
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I can't believe I'm responding to this comment.

:-? If 99 is very congested now then how will a 2.5 Billion dollar entertainment venue development which is only allowed in and out access from 99 going to help the scenario?

"How is that related to will the casino add congestion to the area? " Its common sense.
 
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