Fall River/New Bedford Commuter Rail (South Coast Rail)

I'm surprised (but glad) that South Coast Rail will be Zone 8. I expected Zone 9 for East Taunton and Zone 10 for Freetown, Fall River, and both New Bedford stations.
I am also glad that it will be Zone 8. The only Zones 9/10 stations are the ones south of Providence, which seem like special cases to me, given Providence's size. (If the Worcester Line were extended to Palmer or Webster, I'd expect its additional stations to also be in Zones 9 and 10.)

TF Green Airport's Zone 9 station is about 47 miles from Boston, compared to Fall River's 45 and New Bedford's 47. Wickford Junction's Zone 10 station is 58 miles from South Station; there's no way you could justify FR/NB paying that fare.

Wachusett is 43 miles and in Zone 8, which creates precedent for Fall River being in Zone 8, in my opinion. New Bedford is harder to justify based on distance alone, but the way this whole thing has gone down... yeah it seems reasonable enough to cut them a break. FR/NB are anchor cities, akin to Providence, Worcester, Lowell, Haverhill -- they aren't +1 suburbs like Warwick; every other anchor city is in Zone 8 or lower.

So, it seems reasonable enough to me.

but would not say what the daily train schedule would look like and would not guarantee weekend service.
The weekday schedule is something I raised two years ago. The earlier iterations of the SCR proposal simply extended the then-existing Middleboro/Lakeville runs, alternating between Fall River and New Bedford. That would have meant headways of 70-100 minutes:

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Simply extending today's trains would/will result in even 120-minute headways (clockfacing in the AM, a little skewed in the PM):
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(Also worth noting that both schedules will provide exactly 1 peak direction train from each city arriving/departing Boston during 7:45am-9am and 4:45pm-6pm.)

The bottom line is that, applying the same logic to the current schedule as was used to create the original "3 trains per peak, 3-3.5 hours off-peak" number now gives us something more like "2-3 trains per peak, 2.5 hours off-peak" or "2 hours peak, 2.5 hours off-peak."
As I've explained previously, this sucks:
The Phase 1 proposal calls for 6 trains to/from the South Coast during each peak period -- 3 from New Bedford, 3 from Fall River. Now, first of all, let's compare how many inbound peak trains cities of similar size had before covid:
  • Lowell: 8
  • Brockton: 5
  • Lynn: 8
  • Lawrence: 5
Historically, 5 inbound peak trains has been the minimum on branches going to cities. Greenbush and Kingston usually had 4.
If I were Phil Eng (who apparently earlier "changed" the team managing the SCR project -- I doubt he fired anyone, but sounds like a shakeup), I would have sat the team down, showed them the above numbers and told them this wasn't acceptable, and note that the DSEIR's "just extend the existing schedule" logic was obviously done as a reasonable effort to simplify planning -- refactoring the entire Old Colony system's schedule would have been well out of scope of the DSEIR. "But," he/I would say, "it's not out of scope for us." And directed the team to investigate refactoring the entire Old Colony schedule to create something more reasonable for South Coast Rail. Based on other changes he's made (e.g. single track service at South Attleboro), I am guessing he would have told them to get creative and try to squeeze as much juice out of this goddamn lemon as possible.

The need for creativity is my guess for why they aren't announcing a weekday schedule yet. Getting maximally creative will depend on the eccentricities of the moment, including knowing exactly how many locomotives are being used across the system, exactly how many coaches are available, and potentially even how many conductors and engineers are available. Given, you know [gestures broadly at everything at the T], planning at that level of detail for a full year from now seems dicey enough that I wouldn't want to announce anything yet.

(I do wonder if the current flirtations with transfers at Readville are an experiment for testing OCR cross-platform transfers at Braintree or something similar. And it would not shock me if Eng is investigating supplementing FR/NB through-runs with shuttles doing transfers at East Taunton, which would suck but maybe suck less than do-nothing.)

That all being said, the evasiveness about weekend service is concerning. That seems like it should be more managable to swing.
 
The T posted it's presentation from the Thursday meetings; selected slides below, including the expected schedule of milestones. It looks like all ATC/PTC testing was pending an FRA inspection & approval to operate at the new track speed, likely recently issued given the corridor clipper was filmed here a couple of weeks ago. The delay was likely compounded by the FTA SMS process, which resulted in in the T issuing a new safety certification plan, dated 2/27/24, which SCR had to go through prior to the FRA process.

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Or make the subway transfer suck less, fix the Braintree branch, and integrate fares and then CR->RL becomes actually reasonable.
The T would have to make up a lot of ground to make this feasible. The current schedules put CR at about 23 minutes from Braintree to South Station.

In 2016, the Red Braintree -> South Station journey took about 28 minutes (maybe closer to 30 during peak).

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Yesterday, it took an average of 43 minutes.

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(With literally four trains within each hour.)

If brought back to 2016 journey times, frequencies, and reliability, supplementary Old Colony shuttles transferring at Braintree might well be viable. The transfer is still a bit hostile, but not unworkable.

But that's a lot of ground to make up between 2016 and today.

(In some alternate universe, the Old Colony or some vestige thereof kept all lines continuously operating, terminating at a rapid transit transfer station at Quincy Adams. Like the Mattapan Line, but, you know, bigger. The southern Red Line was, after all, designed as a trunk line for a distributed system of branches out across southeastern Mass.)
 
The T posted it's presentation from the Thursday meetings
It really does look like the T should have known (or, more precisely, likely knew and therefore should have announced) a while ago that Summer 2024 wasn't going to happen. If PTC testing is 6-8 months, and then New Starts brings an additional 3 months, then presumably they would have known at least by January of this year, if not earlier. Very disappointing.
 
Do we predict that a RIPTA route (maybe 24L) will be re-routed or added to serve the Fall River Station <-> Newport market?

I regularly transfer between the RIPTA 60 and the Providence Line and there is a healthy amount of people who do the same on every trip.
 
Do we predict that a RIPTA route (maybe 24L) will be re-routed or added to serve the Fall River Station <-> Newport market?

I regularly transfer between the RIPTA 60 and the Providence Line and there is a healthy amount of people who do the same on every trip.
The problem with Fall River buses is that the bus terminal is centered on City Hall Plaza, while Fall River Depot is nearly a mile away and only served by SRTA bus #2. The transfer integration is really weird unless you gerrymander the route off-course to meet both.

I would say it's not in the cards with Phase I frequencies being so poor. You really need Phase 2 with Regional Rail to get the frequencies on each of the branches up to hourly all-day, and who the hell knows when or if that's going to happen.
 
South Coast Rail will have weekend service, since trains already service Middleborough to begin with on weekends (I guess weekend service is just simply extending the Middleborogh line further south?).


Article quote:

“Seeing as ... South Coast Rail is an extension of the Middleborough line commuter rail service, on which weekend service is already scheduled and offered, it is not a question of whether weekend service will be provided, but rather at what levels,” said Maya Bingaman, MBTA communications manager.
 
South Coast Rail will have weekend service, since trains already service Middleborough to begin with on weekends (I guess weekend service is just simply extending the Middleborogh line further south?).


Article quote:
FWIW, the current Middleborough/Lakeville Line runs every 1.5 hours on weekends. If we simply take these trips and extend to Fall River and New Bedford alternatingly, that gives 3-hour weekend headways.

Weekday headways range between 1 hour (rush hour peak direction) to 1.5 hours (midday), so it's not that much better.
 
FWIW, the current Middleborough/Lakeville Line runs every 1.5 hours on weekends. If we simply take these trips and extend to Fall River and New Bedford alternatingly, that gives 3-hour weekend headways.

Weekday headways range between 1 hour (rush hour peak direction) to 1.5 hours (midday), so it's not that much better.

Quoting from the article only mentions a morning, afternoon, and evening train as a rudimentary level of weekend service for Fall River and New Bedford. 3 trains for the whole service day on weekends.
“I don’t think anyone’s looking for continuous service during the weekend,” he said. “But having a morning train, an afternoon train and an evening train, I don’t think is too much to have.”

Using the existing Middleborough line's schedule gives 5 trains for the whole day for each of the two branches, which is better than then the quoted level of 3 trains for the day (AM, afternoon, evening), but still less than the worst weekend schedules on the CR today, which provides a minimum of 8 trips for the whole day.

To match today's minimum levels of weekend service on the worst CR lines, means having to run 14 - 16 trips in the trunk through Brockton in order to give 8 weekend trips to Fall River and New Bedford., It would be a 1.5x or 1.6x service increase in the trunk (depending on if the first and last train of the day is a mandatory transfer for 1 branch to give the same span of service for both branches).

On weekdays, the worst service levels on the CR seems to be 12 trips on the Franklin Line and 10 on the Foxboro line, only slightly better than 8 trips on the weekends (Foxboro and Stoughton have no weekend service). Giving 10 weekday trips to NB and FR each to match Foxboro still means adding 4 - 6 additional trips on weekdays to the Middleborough Line.
 
Quoting from the article only mentions a morning, afternoon, and evening train as a rudimentary level of weekend service for Fall River and New Bedford. 3 trains for the whole service day on weekends.
That quote is from the "executive vice president of Bristol County Economic Development Consultants", aka politely a nobody when it comes to MBTA scheduling.

The MBTA service delivery policy stipulates a maximum of three hour headways on the weekends on commuter rail, I see no reason to believe this project won't easily meet that.
 
That quote is from the "executive vice president of Bristol County Economic Development Consultants", aka politely a nobody when it comes to MBTA scheduling.

The MBTA service delivery policy stipulates a maximum of three hour headways on the weekends on commuter rail, I see no reason to believe this project won't easily meet that.
The SDP only requires 3 hour headways between 8:00 a.m. and 6:30 p.m. on Saturdays, with the first train from each branch arriving at South Station before 8:00 a.m. on Saturday and departing South Station at 6:30 p.m. Saturday or later.

There is no requirement for service OR service frequency for Saturday early AM, Saturday late evening, or Sunday service; on the Commuter Rail.

4 hour headways between 6:30 p.m. and 11 p.m. Saturday evening, or 5 hour Sunday headways, still meets the service frequency standard, since it is "extra, bonus" service after the minimum 6:30 p.m. on Saturdays SDP standard.

By this definition, the T only needs to provide 5 Saturday trips for both Fall River and New Bedford individually, to meet the standard. There is no requirement to provide a 6th Saturday trip, or Sunday service.
 
Quoting from the article only mentions a morning, afternoon, and evening train as a rudimentary level of weekend service for Fall River and New Bedford. 3 trains for the whole service day on weekends.
this might kneecap the efforts for some to use South Coast rail as a connector to the ferries out of New Bedford. I know the NB ferry companies were lobbying for the line to terminate right near the ferry terminals near JFK Memorial and I'm happy they have some space so transit riders need to spend some time/$$$ in New Bedford, but those train-to-ferry riders will definitely be a boost of cash for New Bedford
 
Given the fiscal cliff looming when service finally starts, and one of the stated likely cuts being weekend CR service... I don't blame the T for not saying anything yet - it wouldn't be wise to until they get a better look at their fiscal state next year.
 
this might kneecap the efforts for some to use South Coast rail as a connector to the ferries out of New Bedford. I know the NB ferry companies were lobbying for the line to terminate right near the ferry terminals near JFK Memorial and I'm happy they have some space so transit riders need to spend some time/$$$ in New Bedford, but those train-to-ferry riders will definitely be a boost of cash for New Bedford

Just an FYI, but the ferry parking lot in New Bedford last night was about 98% full (and that included spilling into the commuter rail station area). Not sure what is going to happen when T service starts up. Guess they are thinking everyone is going to walk to the station? Don't think so. Ferry parking is like that most of the summer.
 
Given the fiscal cliff looming when service finally starts, and one of the stated likely cuts being weekend CR service... I don't blame the T for not saying anything yet - it wouldn't be wise to until they get a better look at their fiscal state next year.

anywhere I can read about this as a potential likely cut? that would be a huge bummer. the $10 CR weekend pass is one of the best things about the T.
 
Just an FYI, but the ferry parking lot in New Bedford last night was about 98% full (and that included spilling into the commuter rail station area). Not sure what is going to happen when T service starts up. Guess they are thinking everyone is going to walk to the station? Don't think so. Ferry parking is like that most of the summer.
I was more thinking the Boston to New Bedford route rather than the other way around. I'm sure the city is much more focused on tourism/transit dollars entering the city, rather than providing park and ride parking for New Bedford residents trying to leave.
 

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