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^^28 affordable units, including the final 7 approved today
http://boston.siretechnologies.com/...ea1ko5xzkqeqwnxm5/20884105112017052426827.PDF
On June 11, 2015, the BRA approved the creation of twenty-one (21) off-site affordable
rental housing units to be located at 2101 Washington Street in Roxbury. These units
are currently under construction.
On April 7, 2017, the Proponent, submitted a Notice of Project Change (“NPC”) and
request to amend the One Dalton AHA. The amendment would allow for the remaining
obligation under the One Dalton AHA (6.75 units) to be satisfied by the creation of
seven (7) affordable housing units at the 2451 Washington Street Project in Roxbury.
Board approved 11May, 2017
http://boston.siretechnologies.com/...ea1ko5xzkqeqwnxm5/20884105112017052426827.PDF
On June 11, 2015, the BRA approved the creation of twenty-one (21) off-site affordable
rental housing units to be located at 2101 Washington Street in Roxbury. These units
are currently under construction.
On April 7, 2017, the Proponent, submitted a Notice of Project Change (“NPC”) and
request to amend the One Dalton AHA. The amendment would allow for the remaining
obligation under the One Dalton AHA (6.75 units) to be satisfied by the creation of
seven (7) affordable housing units at the 2451 Washington Street Project in Roxbury.
Board approved 11May, 2017
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This is a pretty telling departure from former BPDA (BRA) norms. The City used to try really hard to have the affordable units either 1) in the building, or 2) at least generally close to the project. Idea being that this is not just about funding affordable housing, it is also about creating mixed income neighborhoods.
Seems full on gentrification wins with this tower.
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^yes. these units should have been in Back Bay
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I agree with your overall point but to be fair, you cant gentrify an area thats already affluent. A Four Seasons tower having affordable housing way way off site is the least surprising thing ever
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Exactly,
Boston is changing. In some cases for the better. In other cases not.... i'm gonna flail a bit, but it's a busy morning....
Is the above sentiment realistic? i srsly don't get it. Not trying to be an ass over my normal self, but isn't most of the city getting really expensive? it's not like these units are being put in slum neighborhoods..... And even if they were; are we giving out participation trophie's for housing now?
i don't see LA trying to build affordable housing in Pacific Palisades, Woodland Hills, and Palos Verdes.
i don't remember when somebody passed a law saying living in Back Bay is a birthright. That train left the station many years ago....
The true usage of land resources deserves a place in this discussion somewhere. By choosing to live in a highrise, you're taking up space in the sky as opposed to consuming more and more land.... It costs a lot more money to put a home 600 feet above the ground. Why are so many quick to treat these people as social pariahs, when they're willing to pay a premium not to use up the valuable ressource – Then while this is occuring, Beacon Hill residents living in exquisite rowhouses and Northender's get a pass. They are the ones consuming the limited resource at the highest rate: then, they go full-nimby on the proliferation of housing anywhere near where they happen to reside.
You ask me, they're the ones causing the highest rate of gentrification of Boston's neighborhoods. Not those buying and renting in 1 and 30 Dalton. The people buying these units are paying for affordable units all over the city at a higher true, taxed rate. Pretty nice of them to pay the luxury tax – as opposed to locating in Dover.
Isn't there equal merit in spending the money where you can get the most for your extorted dollar? Can't we still be a great society and be realistic about building the maximum livable space to serve the maximum number of residents? If it's a number of streets down, so be it. In 1970, these affordable units were going up in Columbia Point, Brockton and Stoughton... and that was when we had a shitload more land to give out in Mission Hill, South End, all over the City, etc. (a shortage of wrecking balls perhaps?)
i just think we have this as much ass backwards.
Boston is changing. In some cases for the better. In other cases not.... i'm gonna flail a bit, but it's a busy morning....
Is the above sentiment realistic? i srsly don't get it. Not trying to be an ass over my normal self, but isn't most of the city getting really expensive? it's not like these units are being put in slum neighborhoods..... And even if they were; are we giving out participation trophie's for housing now?
i don't see LA trying to build affordable housing in Pacific Palisades, Woodland Hills, and Palos Verdes.
i don't remember when somebody passed a law saying living in Back Bay is a birthright. That train left the station many years ago....
The true usage of land resources deserves a place in this discussion somewhere. By choosing to live in a highrise, you're taking up space in the sky as opposed to consuming more and more land.... It costs a lot more money to put a home 600 feet above the ground. Why are so many quick to treat these people as social pariahs, when they're willing to pay a premium not to use up the valuable ressource – Then while this is occuring, Beacon Hill residents living in exquisite rowhouses and Northender's get a pass. They are the ones consuming the limited resource at the highest rate: then, they go full-nimby on the proliferation of housing anywhere near where they happen to reside.
You ask me, they're the ones causing the highest rate of gentrification of Boston's neighborhoods. Not those buying and renting in 1 and 30 Dalton. The people buying these units are paying for affordable units all over the city at a higher true, taxed rate. Pretty nice of them to pay the luxury tax – as opposed to locating in Dover.
Isn't there equal merit in spending the money where you can get the most for your extorted dollar? Can't we still be a great society and be realistic about building the maximum livable space to serve the maximum number of residents? If it's a number of streets down, so be it. In 1970, these affordable units were going up in Columbia Point, Brockton and Stoughton... and that was when we had a shitload more land to give out in Mission Hill, South End, all over the City, etc. (a shortage of wrecking balls perhaps?)
i just think we have this as much ass backwards.
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^^nice! and since Herald articles have a short shelf life....
Living it up! Four Seasons party previews luxe condos
Olivia Vanni / Inside Track Friday, May 12, 2017
Credit: Stuart Cahill
The main presentation at a party held at the Four Seasons Hotel and Private Residences One Dalton St. Thursday, May 11, 2017. (Staff photo by Stuart Cahill)
Some of Boston’s finest filed into the Four Seasons on Boylston Street for an exclusive preview party for what will soon be the city’s tallest upscale residential building: the Four Seasons Hotel and Private Residences One Dalton.
“We’re building something Boston has never seen before,” said Richard Friedman, CEO of the developer behind the project, Carpenter & Co. of Cambridge, and future resident of the luxury complex.
The event took place in the $8 million model unit for One Dalton, which you can normally only see by appointment, and was hosted by Michael Carucci, executive vice president of Gibson Sotheby’s International.
The shindig was catered by James Beard Award-winning chef Lydia Shire of Scampo, and the mingling high-rollers included: Jack Huang, owner of Basho Japanese Brasserie and Douzo; Glen Kelley, publisher of Boston Common magazine; Marc Harris, owner of Salon Marc Harris; and Kinda Touma, a local fashion designer. The gang from Gibson Sotheby’s was also among the swells, including owners Larry Rideout and Paul McGann, and CEO Colleen Barry.
While people-watching was prime, the unit itself was enough to command full attention. Unlike other luxury condos popping up around town, the Four Seasons isn’t trying to channel Miami or New York. Yes, it is sleek and modern, but it still oozes the Hub.
“We want to be contemporary, but not so contemporary that we lose sight of where we are,” said Deborah Collins, director of sales for the upcoming residential complex. “We’re in the Back Bay.”
Collins added that if buyers were to purchase one of these posh units as is — without any customizing — they can still expect deliberate details. We’re talking Sequoia marble countertops, hardwood floors, vented gas cooking, ceilings just shy of 11 feet and appliances boasting brands like Sub-Zero, Wolf and Asko.
Friedman also said there will be a package room in each unit, so residents can have items like their dry cleaning safely delivered throughout the day without having to rush home. Structurally speaking, he added that they’ve put a massive tub of water atop the roof of the building, which will help stabilize the skyscraper when high winds might otherwise make it sway.
The precision makes sense given the dream team behind the building. Bill Gates— yes, that Bill Gates — is a financial backer in the project, and Henry Cobb, founding partner with I.M. Pei of Pei Cobb Freed & Partners, is the architect.
Once construction is completed on the hotel-condo hybrid, the building will stand 740 feet tall and will then assume the title of the tallest residential building in New England, surpassing its barely less tall predecessor, Downtown Crossing’s Millennium Tower, by just 55 feet.
“When I built The Charles (Hotel) 30-some-odd years ago, people said there was no market for condominiums,” Friedman said. “When I built The Liberty (Hotel), they said it was in a lousy location. But we did it and keep doing it.”
Over the past year and a half, the structure has been slowly built from bedrock, up. But now, Friedman said, construction is picking up pace, as they complete about a floor each week.
“It’ll be topped off late summer, early fall (2018),” he said. “There will also be a fantastic restaurant, but we’re not ready to announce what it is yet.”
So just how much money do you need to buy yourself a little slice of this Four Seasons heaven? “To get in, I’d say it takes at least a couple million,” Carucci said. “For something nice, it would be about $8 million.”
Looks like it’s about time you break open those piggy banks, Boston.
Living it up! Four Seasons party previews luxe condos
Olivia Vanni / Inside Track Friday, May 12, 2017
Credit: Stuart Cahill
The main presentation at a party held at the Four Seasons Hotel and Private Residences One Dalton St. Thursday, May 11, 2017. (Staff photo by Stuart Cahill)
Some of Boston’s finest filed into the Four Seasons on Boylston Street for an exclusive preview party for what will soon be the city’s tallest upscale residential building: the Four Seasons Hotel and Private Residences One Dalton.
“We’re building something Boston has never seen before,” said Richard Friedman, CEO of the developer behind the project, Carpenter & Co. of Cambridge, and future resident of the luxury complex.
The event took place in the $8 million model unit for One Dalton, which you can normally only see by appointment, and was hosted by Michael Carucci, executive vice president of Gibson Sotheby’s International.
The shindig was catered by James Beard Award-winning chef Lydia Shire of Scampo, and the mingling high-rollers included: Jack Huang, owner of Basho Japanese Brasserie and Douzo; Glen Kelley, publisher of Boston Common magazine; Marc Harris, owner of Salon Marc Harris; and Kinda Touma, a local fashion designer. The gang from Gibson Sotheby’s was also among the swells, including owners Larry Rideout and Paul McGann, and CEO Colleen Barry.
While people-watching was prime, the unit itself was enough to command full attention. Unlike other luxury condos popping up around town, the Four Seasons isn’t trying to channel Miami or New York. Yes, it is sleek and modern, but it still oozes the Hub.
“We want to be contemporary, but not so contemporary that we lose sight of where we are,” said Deborah Collins, director of sales for the upcoming residential complex. “We’re in the Back Bay.”
Collins added that if buyers were to purchase one of these posh units as is — without any customizing — they can still expect deliberate details. We’re talking Sequoia marble countertops, hardwood floors, vented gas cooking, ceilings just shy of 11 feet and appliances boasting brands like Sub-Zero, Wolf and Asko.
Friedman also said there will be a package room in each unit, so residents can have items like their dry cleaning safely delivered throughout the day without having to rush home. Structurally speaking, he added that they’ve put a massive tub of water atop the roof of the building, which will help stabilize the skyscraper when high winds might otherwise make it sway.
The precision makes sense given the dream team behind the building. Bill Gates— yes, that Bill Gates — is a financial backer in the project, and Henry Cobb, founding partner with I.M. Pei of Pei Cobb Freed & Partners, is the architect.
Once construction is completed on the hotel-condo hybrid, the building will stand 740 feet tall and will then assume the title of the tallest residential building in New England, surpassing its barely less tall predecessor, Downtown Crossing’s Millennium Tower, by just 55 feet.
“When I built The Charles (Hotel) 30-some-odd years ago, people said there was no market for condominiums,” Friedman said. “When I built The Liberty (Hotel), they said it was in a lousy location. But we did it and keep doing it.”
Over the past year and a half, the structure has been slowly built from bedrock, up. But now, Friedman said, construction is picking up pace, as they complete about a floor each week.
“It’ll be topped off late summer, early fall (2018),” he said. “There will also be a fantastic restaurant, but we’re not ready to announce what it is yet.”
So just how much money do you need to buy yourself a little slice of this Four Seasons heaven? “To get in, I’d say it takes at least a couple million,” Carucci said. “For something nice, it would be about $8 million.”
Looks like it’s about time you break open those piggy banks, Boston.
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??? We've been doing this forever here, its a problem now? As long as you site it....
You can post small parts of the article, but posting the whole thing is a copyright violation.
Two things that struck me about that article...1 they mention "bedrock" which is now probably a buzzword for high rise luxury. 2. They mention a restaurant, I thought they couldn't have a liquor license here bc of the Scientology folks?
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The Globe, BBJ and Banker and Tradesman all operate behind paywalls. When you take entire stories and post them here you're ripping them off.
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And even if there's no paywall you're still ripping them off. They benefit from getting eyeballs on the content that they've created on their site; that's why they post it. We have no right to take what's theirs and post it here without their permission.
It's considered fair use to copy an excerpt or "preview", and link back to their site for the whole thing. It's not fair use to take it in its entirety.
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It wasn't that they could not get a liquor license, it was that the Christian Science Church put strict restrictions on the way the license could be used in the land lease. They do that on all the properties they own around the Mother Church (Colonnade Hotel for example).
I believe (this was way up thread) that the restaurant had to be only accessible from inside the hotel -- no exterior entrance, and well above the ground floor. (Basically focused on hotel patrons).
The Colonnade, for example, cannot allow wine or beer bottles to be visible in their sidewalk cafe area at Brasserie Jo. They have to be handled by servers, and kept inside -- out of general sight.
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This was my understanding too. No liquor served on the ground floor.
I am no math expert but if we are up to 4-5 floors now and average 1 floor per week, wouldn't this top out in June of next year and not "late summer/early fall" as stated in the article?
They're actually working on 6 and then it should speed up substantially from there. 5 is fully poured and 6 is partially up depending on which corner you are looking at.