Logan Airport Flights and Airlines Discussion

tysmith95 said:
I agree, though Delta just moved in because American was cutting back.
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Key was Delta had originally planned for this -- that's why they built Terminal A -- it was to be the Delta Terminal -- now it is becoming the Delta Terminal the same way Terminal C is now essentially the Jet Blue Terminal
 
kmp1284 said:
Flight's now available on AA.com

dep BOS 7:30p, arr LHR 7:30a
dep LHR 9:35a, arr BOS 12:35p
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Brings back memories...I was routinely on AA's 777-200 to LHR out of BOS on business travel in the 2006-2008 timeframe. Was sad to see AA first downgrade the equipment, then shut down the service (even though, beyond nostalgia, obviously no big deal with the BA interline options).

To be honest, with their strategic decisions re: BOS since then, I'm quite surprised it's back. Might have to hop on this thing for old time's sake.
 
kmp1284 said:
Flight's now available on AA.com

dep BOS 7:30p, arr LHR 7:30a
dep LHR 9:35a, arr BOS 12:35p
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I'm not sure I understand the market choice here. British Airways (same alliance and codeshare) does a 747:

dep BOS 7:55p, arr LHR 6:30a

Which is quicker, cheaper, leaves at the same time and has more seats.

Edit: the more I search, the more confused I get. BA also runs a A380:

dep BOS 7:15p, arr LHR 6:50a

That's so much capacity on one codeshare all leaving within an hour of each other...

Edit 2: after further research it looks like the BA 747 is ending that month actually... Is that right? That'll be sad, fond memories of transatlantic 747s to Boston.
 
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Looks like JetBlue is closing down Mexico City effective January. So Boston will lack non-stop service to Mexico City again.
 
Korean Air going daily on Boston-Seoul in May with 77W aircraft (more J class and also has F) on the two new frequencies (Mon/Thurs).
 
whighlander said:
Jass -- Not at all surprised -- the Business Profile for Mexico City has little in common with Boston and I can't see much demand for Tourist flight to Mexico City
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Well my dad is on that flight every month for one.
 
The cancellation of the New Mexico City Airport probably has something to do with it. The current airport is very slot constrained.
 
Arlington said:
Is a Business Profile a thing or just a intuitive concept? Is there a match-o-matic tool somewhere?
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Arlington -- Business Profile is a "Thing" except that the definition is not always the same because it depends on the local jurisdiction making the assessment -- its a lot like SIC Codes or NAICS Codes -- there might be two codes that could describe a company

Similarly the Business Profile of a city or metro region could depend on the "catchment" -- thus if you ask how many semiconductor fabs are there in Boston [not counting something that might pass for a fab on a university campus] the answer would be 0. If the catchment is inside or on Rt-128 the answer would be 3 [Draper Lab [MEMS in Cambridge], Lincoln Laboratory [Lexington], Skyworks [Woburn]] By expanding further to I-495 you would also include Raytheon [I-93 Andover] and Analog Devices [Wilmington]. So your answer could range from 0 to 5.

Then once you have your categories -- you need to rank the businesses by some criteria such as $ investments, people working for the companies, sales, etc Make your list of the Top 10 and from that distill the Profile which best describes the business activity in the given city / metro. Sometimes there is a subjective factor involved such as while traditional financial services might not be a major element -- perhaps the city has a lot of start-up activity in Fin-tech such as crypto-currency.

Typically a similar looking profile implies similar interests and such a pair of cities would probably do better with better connections -- or example the AA triangle route [circa 1998] Austin, San Jose, BOS
 
^ I read this as "I post-rationalized BOS-MEX discontinuance, but declared it to have been predictable" describing the past with a claim of foresight.

Can you supply the pertinent business profiles for Boston and other cities which then correlate (in advance) with unsuccessful (MEX) and successful (choose 5) daily air service?

Extra Credit: use business profiles to prioritize unserved BOS-XXX nonstops based on profile affinities the airlines have overlooked
 
Arlington said:
^ I read this as "I post-rationalized BOS-MEX discontinuance, but declared it to have been predictable" describing the past with a claim of foresight.

Can you supply the pertinent business profiles for Boston and other cities which then correlate (in advance) with unsuccessful (MEX) and successful (choose 5) daily air service?

Extra Credit: use business profiles to prioritize unserved BOS-XXX nonstops based on profile affinities the airlines have overlooked
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Arlington -- Not that clear-cut -- in an ideal situation with excess capacity [planes, slots, crews] JetBlue would still want to have BOS to MEX on its menu of flights for completeness [capital city of a fairly large and important country]
BUT --- if the numbers are not really there to support flying non-stop to MEX from BOS when there are other possible uses for the planes and crews -- then you go where the fit looks more promising

As for the rest -- by now I would assume most people on ABforum are familiar with the kind of things that makes Boston the unique city that we have here -- and could imagine connections that would make sense
I would certainly nominate Berlin for an under-served city with a similar Business Profile to Boston [though due to the bizarre situation involving the new airport -- Berlin has issues]
 
I wonder if Aeromexico or Delta will give it another shot? Given Delta's growth in Boston, and they have a lot of the A220 on order, maybe it could work with the 220 this time around?
 
mass88 said:
I wonder if Aeromexico or Delta will give it another shot? Given Delta's growth in Boston, and they have a lot of the A220 on order, maybe it could work with the 220 this time around?
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From Delta's perspective it probably makes more sense to have people fly BOS-ATL then onward since Atlanta is already on the way and has proven demand...
 
HelloBostonHi said:
From Delta's perspective it probably makes more sense to have people fly BOS-ATL then onward since Atlanta is already on the way and has proven demand...
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I always thought JetBlue would rough it out until the A220 came and I also thought maybe Delta will do it with their Aeromexico partnership and their A220. I looked at this recently and realized: the geography of both Boston and Mexico City combined just do not work from a spoke and hub standpoint and the business and VFR ties are simply not enough to support the route.

Mexico City has great coverage to obviously Mexico and Central/South America but Houston, Miami, Atlanta, JFK/EWR and Panama City are better hubs to connect in for someone departing from Logan in terms of shortest travel distances. Even parts of Mexico are better suited to go through the USA hubs. Mexico City does work for connecting Western US to Central and South America. That is why similar length route like Seattle-Mexico City sticks around on AeroMexico.
 
Aside from Cancun, most Mexico flights go through Mexico City.

Going Boston-Atlanta-MEX-Tuxtla doesn't make sense.

JFK, btw, has 5 airlines flying direct to Mexico City.
 
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