BarbaricManchurian
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subsidizing plant construction and energy costs for exporters
Every country does that, it's called economic stimulus, and China has done less than other countries (more free-market then many so-called capitalist countries).
illegal tax rebates for exporters
Illegal? I don't think the Chinese GOVERNMENT issuing tax rebates is illegal, plus, its economic stimuli, China has been reducing this to low-wage, high pollution industry (textiles, chemical, etc...) and shifting the rebates to higher-wage high-tech exports.
keeping the yuan/renminbi artificially low
Totally untrue, the yuan has risen 18% since it was unpegged in 2005 (went up from 8.29 yuan/$ to 6.98 right now, and the pace is accelerating). Many low-wage factories have went bankrupt because of this.
and outright protectionism/ allowing very few exports or services -- banks, law firms, insurers, etc. -- access to the market
Not true either. China has opened up at record speed, and do we see European insurers here? There are many foreign banks in China, and there's very low need for lawyers in China as there's little crime and China has already allowed foreign lawyers to form joint ventures in China, and is encouraging more people to become lawyers..
are killing the US middle class
Any evidence that the US middle class is getting "killed"? It may be harder to become middle class now, but that's because your competing with a huge pool of smart, talented people all around the globe. The key is hard work, even more than before. The difference is just that you can't become middle class straight out of high school by getting a good referral from a friend, you actually have to work now (and you can become rich straight out of high school, be an entrepreneur-though there's high risk)
That airport was built on the the transfer of well-paying Ohio jobs whose laid-off employees are now making a pittance as a part-time cashier at the Dollar Store.
Totally not true again, exports only make up about 1.5% of China's 11.5% GDP growth, most is due to rise in domestic consumption and investment. In fact, imports are rising much faster than exports, closing China's trade surplus and exports won't even make up any of China's GDP growth soon.
It's a problem the US will have to address, rather than making a scapegoat of free trade with politically unpopular Mexico -- whether or not 1/3 of US debt is held by the Chinese gov't! (In the same vein, I don't consider it America-bashing to say George Bush is a disastrous buffoon whose policies also need to be seriously addressed ASAP!)
There's a problem to address, bad education and protectionism. If people think they can get a good job straight out of 12 years of crappy public schools, they are deluding themselves. With better education, US workers can compete better in the global marketplace. There's no turning back now, we live in a global society and that means competing with ALL other workers on the globe. The best will prosper, the lazy will suffer. It's all in your hands, which is what's so liberating about free trade and globalization. Free trade has helped the US extremely, and if you support free trade with Mexico (which BTW has tax rebates for exporters, incentives for building factories, etc... probably even more than China proportionally), you better support it with even more capitalist China. Having one-third of US debt being held by the Chinese gov't is irrelevant, but I do agree that the US government debt needs to be drastically reduced or our GDP growth will be very slow for the next few decades.
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