Logan Airport Flights and Airlines Discussion

Seen at Ft Lauderdale (FLL) this morning! Boston Love! Her name is Wicked Blue!! 😂❤️

IMG_4610.jpeg
 
Last edited:
JetBlue is making its service to Amsterdam season, which means it will be suspended from October 24 through March 26. Something tells me this does not return at all.
JetBlue is ending is service to Daytona Beach as they are exiting that station completely.

Hainan is going to continue operating its 3 weekly service from Beijing non-stop in both directions into the fall. They recently removed the Brussels tech stop on the Boston to Beijing leg.
 
mass88 said:
JetBlue is making its service to Amsterdam season, which means it will be suspended from October 24 through March 26. Something tells me this does not return at all.
Click to expand...
I can say that I flew BOS-AMS on KLM in late January, and the load factors were pretty terrible.

As in, I got the economy version of first-class in both directions....the entire row to myself to stretch out and sleep on. And so did many of the other people in economy.

So I can see why there might be some cutbacks if that's the norm in that time of the year.
 
Going to be quite sad if it doesn't return, they're easily the most comfortable airline on the route (at least, for economy)
 
12345 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2084193134066753641
Boston-India= 281,000 passengers last year
Click to expand...
My understanding is that India is just really hard for airlines to make money in - for such a populous country, it just doesn't drive that much air traffic, especially the premium traffic that drives long haul revenue. Even AI dropped IAD and ORD not too long ago, cut SFO frequencies, as despite still being able to fly transrussia they cited fuel costs being apparently too high. That likely wasn't a great sign of their margins. That said, AI did buy a lot of new widebodies - they'll need to be deployed eventually. I'm just not sure long and thin to the US is their way forward.

Frankly... They cite 5.7M total RTs? There's simply not that many seats on directs US-India flights. I'm curious how much of the gulf carriers business in the US is the one-stop, since many of those destination pairs cited would require at least one connection, either in the US or India itself - I'm fairly certain a plurality of the major gulf carriers serve most of the larger O&D cities on that chart.
 
Last edited:
I don't know if I'm reading it wrong, but it looks like Mumbai is the largest market to BOS with 74,418 rt passengers annually. That breaks down to 204 passengers per day, 102 each way. Seating capacity is 255-260 on AI's 787s. Maybe I'm missing something in the data, but that doesn't seem like nearly enough to justify even a handful of weekly flights. The totals for all of India don't seem to matter as much because there are plenty of connecting options, particularly via the Gulf carriers. So if the O&D numbers between Boston and any particular India market aren't strong, it's hard to see it happening.
 
Stlin said:
My understanding is that India is just really hard for airlines to make money in - for such a populous country, it just doesn't drive that much air traffic, especially the premium traffic that drives long haul revenue. Even AI dropped IAD and ORD not too long ago, cut SFO frequencies, as despite still being able to fly transrussia they cited fuel costs being apparently too high. That likely wasn't a great sign of their margins. That said, AI did buy a lot of new widebodies - they'll need to be deployed eventually. I'm just not sure long and thin to the US is their way forward.

Frankly... They cite 5.7M total RTs? There's simply not that many seats on directs US-India flights. I'm curious how much of the gulf carriers business in the US is the one-stop, since many of those destination pairs cited would require at least one connection, either in the US or India itself - I'm fairly certain a plurality of the major gulf carriers serve most of the larger O&D cities on that chart.
Click to expand...

Yeah, Air India has, between A359/A35K/779, something like 45-50 planes coming into their fleet. This is addition to a sizable B788/B789/B77W fleet. Each of those can make India-Boston non-stop in both directions. While they will need to deploy them, it may be a while before they expand their US network.

Qatar/Etihad/Emirates offer attractive services for easy one-stop connections all over India.
 
mass88 said:
Qatar/Etihad/Emirates offer attractive services for easy one-stop connections all over India.
Click to expand...
Yeah - my sense has always been that the Gulf airlines carry more passengers between India and Boston than would be feasible for direct flights.

From my sample size of one time flying on Qatar/Etihad/Emirates, the plane had a very high percentage of South Asian folks.

All three of those airlines also invest heavily to use South Asian cricket stars and teams as their advertising faces (like: here).
 
Last edited:
www.nbcboston.com

United adds direct Boston-Jackson Hole ski flight, for several weeks this winter

Nightmare travel day no longer. United Airlines announced its first-ever direct flight from Boston’s Logan airport to Jackson Hole Airport in Wyoming.
www.nbcboston.com www.nbcboston.com
Operated on a Boeing 737-700 and will run from February 13, 2027 to March 20, 2027 - a decidedly interesting addition to Boston's network for United, where it's one of the smaller mainline carriers, but conversely it's one of the largest at JAC - but BOS would be the only non-hub destination.
 
Stlin said:
www.nbcboston.com

United adds direct Boston-Jackson Hole ski flight, for several weeks this winter

Nightmare travel day no longer. United Airlines announced its first-ever direct flight from Boston’s Logan airport to Jackson Hole Airport in Wyoming.
www.nbcboston.com www.nbcboston.com
Operated on a Boeing 737-700 and will run from February 13, 2027 to March 20, 2027 - a decidedly interesting addition to Boston's network for United, where it's one of the smaller mainline carriers, but conversely it's one of the largest at JAC - but BOS would be the only non-hub destination.
Click to expand...
I know it is just a headline for clicks but "nightmare travel day no longer?" There are flights to JAC from Logan that land at 11:00am. You can literally ski at Jackson Hole the same day you fly there. On the way back, you can leave at 7am and still land in Boston before 4pm. Nonstop flights are always preferable, but I have made this connection several times for just long weekends and it is not the end of the world. Several options between DEN, ORD and EWR if you have to.
 
BosDevelop said:
I know it is just a headline for clicks but "nightmare travel day no longer?" There are flights to JAC from Logan that land at 11:00am. You can literally ski at Jackson Hole the same day you fly there. On the way back, you can leave at 7am and still land in Boston before 4pm. Nonstop flights are always preferable, but I have made this connection several times for just long weekends and it is not the end of the world. Several options between DEN, ORD and EWR if you have to.
Click to expand...

Yeah, it's a pretty easy one-stop trip from Boston. Nonstop is great (and admittedly surprising on United), but hardly a nightmare.
 
Lrfox said:
Yeah, it's a pretty easy one-stop trip from Boston. Nonstop is great (and admittedly surprising on United), but hardly a nightmare.
Click to expand...
I don't get what's surprising. United's thing is that they are much more willing to take risks on routes with the goal of being the first and only airline to fly them when there isn't enough demand for another airline come in later.
 
Lrfox said:
Yeah, it's a pretty easy one-stop trip from Boston. Nonstop is great (and admittedly surprising on United), but hardly a nightmare.
Click to expand...

Agreed that a one-stop doesn't constitute a nightmare, until you miss the connecting flight, which has been a pattern with me. Anyway, being a fan of Jackson Hole coupled with a non-stop flight option is incentive for a return trip.
 
Last edited:
Some additional seasonal flying coming for winter 2027.

Allegiant will run service to the following:

Orlando Sanford - February 13 through April 24. 1 weekly B38M
Punta Gorda - February 13 through April 24. 1 weekly A319
St. Petersburg/Clearwater - February 13 through April
 
Delta is trimming the run of its return to BOS-HNL. The route will now run daily from 12/19/26-01/03/27. Previously the route was to run daily for that period, and then 4 times a week for January and February.

If filings are to be believed, Volaris intends to add service to Boston by launching non-stop service from Guadalajara. Service would start pretty quickly so they could get it launched before the FAA lowers Mexico's rating.
 
Delta has put out some changes to its NS27 European network.

Boston to Barcelona will begin on April 12. NS26 the route began on May 6.
Boston to Milan will run daily and begin on May 6. NS26 the route operated 4 times weekly and started May 16.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top