MA Casino Developments

Just go on Google Maps and search Revere. That will give you the town boundaries.
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I'm not sure I trust the accuracy of Google's boundary, especially since I have seen at least one printed map where the boundary is different.
 
TheRifleman said:
I'm not sure who Benton Brut really is.

He called it from the beginning. There will be NO CASINO In Eastie and boy did he call that right.
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I'm just a kid who grew up in Orient Heights, and read a few books.

A lot of bright people worked extraordinarily hard to stop this ill-conceived project from going forward. The "Revere end-around" they're trying to pull right now will crash and burn like the Hindenburg. Stay tuned...

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Ron Newman said:
Meanwhile, there's an initiative petition going around to repeal the state casino law entirely. Somerville Mayor Joe Curtatone is one of the initial 10 signers. I signed it, because I'd like to see a statewide debate about this issue.
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Thank you, Ron!

For those interested: www.repealthecasinodeal.org/
 
Beton Brut said:
I'm just a kid who grew up in Orient Heights, and read a few books.

A lot of bright people worked extraordinarily hard to stop this ill-conceived project from going forward. The "Revere end-around" they're trying to pull right now will crash and burn like the Hindenburg. Stay tuned...

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Thank you, Ron!

For those interested: www.repealthecasinodeal.org/
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Any Shot you could start taking on the WYNN project in Everett?
 
TheRifleman said:
Any Shot you could start taking on the WYNN project in Everett?
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Not me personally, but some others are working with the (very thin) organized opposition in Everett. And Mr. Wynn isn't exactly a shoe-in to be deemed a suitable operator. Google him -- he's recently insulted the Massachusetts Gaming Commission, calling them "freshmen;" he's suspected of bribing officials in China, over his holdings in Macau.

The state-wide repeal effort is the best option to get rid of this ill considered legislation for good...

Ron Newman said:
...why did Revere need to vote on this at all?
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The initial Suffolk Downs proposal talked of creating synergy between thoroughbred racing and casino gambling; because a portion of the track and grandstand building (where some gaming tables would have been located) are located in Revere, and possibly with the hope of future expansion onto the Revere property with new buildings, Revere had to be included in the vote.
 
Wouldn't the same logic now hold in reverse if the buildings are wholly in Revere?

(Though it looks to me, on those maps, like the grandstand building was to be fully in Eastie)
 
If Wynn is found to be unsuitable to build a casino in MA then no one is.
 
617 said:
If Wynn is found to be unsuitable to build a casino in MA then no one is.
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Well this doesn't make much sense considering Rush, Penn, Mohegan, and Cordish have all been found suitable.
 
Beton Brut said:
Not me personally, but some others are working with the (very thin) organized opposition in Everett. And Mr. Wynn isn't exactly a shoe-in to be deemed a suitable operator. Google him -- he's recently insulted the Massachusetts Gaming Commission, calling them "freshmen;" he's suspected of bribing officials in China, over his holdings in Macau.

The state-wide repeal effort is the best option to get rid of this ill considered legislation for good...



The initial Suffolk Downs proposal talked of creating synergy between thoroughbred racing and casino gambling; because a portion of the track and grandstand building (where some gaming tables would have been located) are located in Revere, and possibly with the hope of future expansion onto the Revere property with new buildings, Revere had to be included in the vote.
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When you are repealing casinos might as well get rid of the Lottery and Keno as well -- they don't even promise good jobs and good architecture

Give it a rest -- you might not like a Casino next to your house or even down the street -- you might even consider gambling to be a sin -- BUT to paint all casinos with some kind of Buggsy Siegel paintbrush is sophomoric

Personally, in all my opportunities to gamble over a couple of decades -- I've probably wagered a few hundred and won about a few hundred -- my biggest wining was 1600 nickels in a slot machine at McCaran International Airport --- no ill willed characters accosted me or tried to hook me into a life of crime
 
whighlander said:
BUT to paint all casinos with some kind of Buggsy Siegel paintbrush is sophomoric
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Please highlight any thread on archBOSTON where I've made a statement to this effect. And by the way, I could tell you stories about some interactions I've observed and been part of with a senior executive from Caesars Entertainment prior to their dismissal from the Suffolk Downs project that didn't make it into the papers....

I have said that the casino-industrial complex, as it is presently constituted, is a predatory industry, using the latest technology to manipulate the odds for players at slot and poker machines. In many ways, the Commonwealth's decision to partner with this industry is a form of government-sponsored disaster capitalism. If Governor Patrick is a social justice Democrat, I've never heard him say how much social justice will be derived through the gaming legislation.

And don't worry about me riding a moralistic high-horse. I'm a curious and tolerant secular humanist. I'm "ethnically Catholic" but I'm also an atheist.
 
Beton Brut said:
Please highlight any thread on archBOSTON where I've made a statement to this effect. And by the way, I could tell you stories about some interactions I've observed and been part of with a senior executive from Caesars Entertainment prior to their dismissal from the Suffolk Downs project that didn't make it into the papers....

I have said that the casino-industrial complex, as it is presently constituted, is a predatory industry, using the latest technology to manipulate the odds for players at slot and poker machines. In many ways, the Commonwealth's decision to partner with this industry is a form of government-sponsored disaster capitalism. If Governor Patrick is a social justice Democrat, I've never heard him say how much social justice will be derived through the gaming legislation.

And don't worry about me riding a moralistic high-horse. I'm a curious and tolerant secular humanist. I'm "ethnically Catholic" but I'm also an atheist.
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BET-ON --- Casinos are in general no more predatory than going to the movies or a ball game -- the primary intent on both the part of the ball team and the movie theatre is to get you to buy highly over-priced snacks and drinks- -the inducement is the movie or the ball game

The same is mostly the purpose of F-1, bowling alleys and pool parlors

They are various forms of adult entertainment offering nothing that is essential to ones existence and as I said earlier they are a lot less pure gambling than the lottery or Keno
 
I could tell you stories about some interactions I've observed and been part of with a senior executive from Caesars Entertainment prior to their dismissal from the Suffolk Downs project that didn't make it into the papers....
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Please do!
 
What do you mean by "again"? It hasn't been on a statewide ballot up to now.

I haven't decided how I'll vote if it gets on the ballot, but I want to see it on the ballot.
 
If by some long shot this issue ends up on a ballot and voted out...what happens to the $400k application fee paid by each casino operator?
 
Lawsuits, lawsuits and more lawsuits

Ron, I have a hard time believing you don't know which way you would vote given your attitude in this thread towards casinos. I'm not trying to be a richard or anything either
 
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I heard that the casino group spent 11 Million against the 27,000 dollars the Anti-Casino group spent.

Maybe Beton can confirm the numbers.
 
And prove what? Big casinos have more money than residents?

I'll save you the time. Remove the question mark above, and you have a true statement.
 
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