Manchester Infill & Small Developments

Union Leader read yesterday that Manchester will repair and replace the brick and cement on Elm Street. This is good because it needs it. It was a short article, simply stating that the sidewalks will be redone, in cement lines with brick along Elm.

Also, Bass Island Park has had a recent renovation (bushes removed from front of street, I think to open up the park to help prevent shady stuff from happening in the parking lot, I only say this because I have seen cops over there a lot and now it is more open) but new grass and plants we planted along with new walkways in pavers. It is a surprisingly nice park. It is very nice for the area it is in.
 
This is great news. I live off the Goffstown Road/Amosgkeag exit. My wife and I are always baffled by the design of the on and off ramps. If you do not use this exit and have to, well good luck! We are both from Connecticut where the highways are much easier to navigate.

Unrelated topic, I have heard from several people in town that Trader Joe's is looking at opening a store on South Willow St. at one of the recent vacant stores. Has anyone else heard any of these rumors?
 
The amount of vacant land taken up by this exit is ridiculous, and for what, a chaotic mess of roads that is not easy to navigate.

A better exit will help local business. Usually an exit is good for business, not here.

Trader Joes, no clue.
 
^thats great i used to live by there and that hotel/motel whatever it was was a huge eyesore and takes up a lot of space around good new retail
 
I've been following the forums here, but haven't posted anything in awhile.

Hopefully they can improve the interchanges at Exit 6 & 7 without gobbling up more land. The sketches I saw awhile back looked promising, but the danger is that it could end up like Exit 5 where the improved interchange was accompanied by an enormously widened street (Granite Street in that case) with very little accommodation for pedestrians or bicyclists (less of a concern here than at Exit 5) and making an unattractive gateway to the city (very much a concern at Exit 6). If they can improve the highway access while improving the gateway, that would be great news. I am very much against widening I-293 through downtown, however, and aghast at the amount of money being spent on highways in the state while very little is spent on public transit. If Manchester is going to be an attractive place to live, that balance needs to shift a bit.

I have fond memories of visiting the old Wayfarer Inn--we used to go there occasionally for the brunch buffet when I was a kid, and I loved wandering the halls over and around the waterfalls. I'm glad to hear that they'll be keeping the old sawmill, but the comments from the planning board make the project sound pretty bland. I hope that improves--this could be a prime spot for a truly mixed-use development, not just apartments next to fast food restaurants.

I haven't been and the building is hardly anything special, but the Ali Baba grocery store on Second Street sounds great--just the sort of interesting and quality food store that is missing in that part of town. Speaking of that part of town, SNHPC is doing a study to improve Second Street. I just hope it is thwarted by Tea Partiers like the Plan Pinardville study was.

I haven't heard anything about Trader Joe's moving in, but it wouldn't surprise me. I sent them an email about the open stores in Manchester, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Plus, with the new stores in Portsmouth and Nashua, Manchester seems like the next logical step. I'd rather see them go into the former Stop n' Shop on Valley Street or the former Vista Foods on McGregor Store (though I'd rather see that whole strip mall redeveloped) since those spots are more in the city than South Willow. If the mayor hadn't been so eager to build a suburban-style grocery store on Elm Street, Trader Joe's could have been part of a mixed-use development around an intermodal transit center where the Market Basket is now, and Market Basket could have gone into one of the now-vacant spaces.

Which gets me to my next point. I'm very disappointed that Gatsas won re-election. I think he's a decent man who really cares about the city, but I amazed at his lack of vision. I don't think there was much vision from Guinta when he was mayor, but he benefited from leftover projects from the Baines years, and he spent half his time in office positioning himself for a congressional run anyway. But Gatsas has shown none of the vision that characterized the Wieczorek and Baines years from 1990-2005. I was really hoping that Arnold would win, but I at least hope the close election will get Gatsas to develop a vision to guide the city in his third term. Manchester can't afford two more years of haphazard development, especially as the economy and thus hopefully development pick up.
 
The NH Liquor store on Southern end of Elm looks awful!

The Ali-Baba store kinda is interesting.

Blockbuster is gone

The new Manch Mill Music store is impresive

Granite Street is not that bad. I walk it fine (minus the piles of bird crap under the bridge)

Widening of 293 through downtown? What do you mean? Am I missing something? They are redoing the HW there the exits. It is right next to my aquarium store on blaine Street.

I don't know about Second street, something as simple as just repaving the road with new sidewalks is fine. What more could the street have with the exception of the abandoned houses next to the gas station. It is not until you get past the Thrift store (going North) that the street needs work. maybe this is what you were referring too. But that whole dog park/city park, and the red oaks village area. Potential to be a nice neighborhood, just needs money put into it. This is right were my shop is so I am there all day. Between granite and Queen City bridge is where Second street could use work. Not just the road, but the buildings, houses, sidewalks, streetscape.

If anyone is ever in the area, stop in at 45 Blaine Street even though I am not open and say hi. Hopefully will be soon.
 
As a resident of Manchester, I must say the city has some really great projects which been developed and in the works. Hopefully the south end of Elm Street spurs growth with recent construction and renovations to present buildings. I spoke to the owner of Mangia (hands down the best Italian restaurant in Manchester), and the whole reason he moved his restaurant to the southern part of Elm from Hooksett was the possibility of more foot traffic and general pedestrian activity which was not there 5 years ago. The new Elliot Urgent care facility, Farnum Center, and mixed development where the state liquor store is going will help businesses according to Angelo. I guess there are other projects that are developing for the south end of Elm Street. I can't recall exactly what they are, but from what I remember, residential towers come to mind.
Let me preface the following by writing that I consider myself fiscally conservative, and socially liberal, but find the Tea Party to be have an obnoxious undertone. However for cities such as Manchester to become an appealing place to live, the public schools have to be acceptable. Manchester is notorious in the Granite state for having sub-par public schools. So my main concern with Manchester as a property owner and a citizen is the public schools do not receive support from the locals politicians and even parents. My current property taxes are outrageous for owning a tiny tenth of an acre, and my kids will be going to a school where the average class size between 25-30. All while the side walk in front of my house has more grass on it than most of my backyard. Who knows where the property tax money flows to. My point being that if my taxes are going to be high, then at least have acceptable public schools, and if they did this it would make Manchester an extremely desirable place to raise a family. But I guess the fiscally conservative part of me should just be quiet ;) Pretty much a walking contradiction.
 
The NH Liquor store on Southern end of Elm looks awful!

The Ali-Baba store kinda is interesting.

Blockbuster is gone

The new Manch Mill Music store is impresive

Granite Street is not that bad. I walk it fine (minus the piles of bird crap under the bridge)

Widening of 293 through downtown? What do you mean? Am I missing something? They are redoing the HW there the exits. It is right next to my aquarium store on blaine Street.

I don't know about Second street, something as simple as just repaving the road with new sidewalks is fine. What more could the street have with the exception of the abandoned houses next to the gas station. It is not until you get past the Thrift store (going North) that the street needs work. maybe this is what you were referring too. But that whole dog park/city park, and the red oaks village area. Potential to be a nice neighborhood, just needs money put into it. This is right were my shop is so I am there all day. Between granite and Queen City bridge is where Second street could use work. Not just the road, but the buildings, houses, sidewalks, streetscape.

If anyone is ever in the area, stop in at 45 Blaine Street even though I am not open and say hi. Hopefully will be soon.

What is HW?
 
Sorry, HW = Highway.

Yeah, I have nothing to say about the school, since I never went to public school here. Friends did, they seemed happy.

Towns and Cities always have high taxes and yet not enough put back into the community. It is how America runs. That is all I can say.
 
The NH Liquor store on Southern end of Elm looks awful!

The Ali-Baba store kinda is interesting.

Blockbuster is gone

The new Manch Mill Music store is impresive

Granite Street is not that bad. I walk it fine (minus the piles of bird crap under the bridge)

Widening of 293 through downtown? What do you mean? Am I missing something? They are redoing the HW there the exits. It is right next to my aquarium store on blaine Street.

I don't know about Second street, something as simple as just repaving the road with new sidewalks is fine. What more could the street have with the exception of the abandoned houses next to the gas station. It is not until you get past the Thrift store (going North) that the street needs work. maybe this is what you were referring too. But that whole dog park/city park, and the red oaks village area. Potential to be a nice neighborhood, just needs money put into it. This is right were my shop is so I am there all day. Between granite and Queen City bridge is where Second street could use work. Not just the road, but the buildings, houses, sidewalks, streetscape.

If anyone is ever in the area, stop in at 45 Blaine Street even though I am not open and say hi. Hopefully will be soon.

Too bad to hear about the liquor store, but I'm not surprised. Huge missed opportunity though.

Granite Street is walkable, but it's not enjoyable--it's too wide to ever imagine being a nice place for pedestrians. And that the widening didn't include bike lanes is shamefully short-sighted. Maybe once the trees in the median fill in a bit more, it will be a decent boulevard east of the river, but west of the river it's made it nearly impossible for Granite Square to ever have a real sense of place again.

I've heard different things about possibly widening I-293 through downtown Manchester in addition to the new exit configurations. I think it's a terrible idea--there's almost never any traffic except for on the exit ramps, and it would be a huge waste of money.

I think the idea for Second Street is that south of Queen City Ave, there are far too many curb cuts, way too much ugly signage, and it's not geared at all toward pedestrians. They could update the zoning there to promote more infill development, more shared curb cuts when businesses are redoing their driveways, maybe some plantings along the road, better sidewalks and so on. Beautification and increasing owner-occupancy north of Queen City Ave would also be good objectives.
 
As a resident of Manchester, I must say the city has some really great projects which been developed and in the works. Hopefully the south end of Elm Street spurs growth with recent construction and renovations to present buildings. I spoke to the owner of Mangia (hands down the best Italian restaurant in Manchester), and the whole reason he moved his restaurant to the southern part of Elm from Hooksett was the possibility of more foot traffic and general pedestrian activity which was not there 5 years ago. The new Elliot Urgent care facility, Farnum Center, and mixed development where the state liquor store is going will help businesses according to Angelo. I guess there are other projects that are developing for the south end of Elm Street. I can't recall exactly what they are, but from what I remember, residential towers come to mind.
Let me preface the following by writing that I consider myself fiscally conservative, and socially liberal, but find the Tea Party to be have an obnoxious undertone. However for cities such as Manchester to become an appealing place to live, the public schools have to be acceptable. Manchester is notorious in the Granite state for having sub-par public schools. So my main concern with Manchester as a property owner and a citizen is the public schools do not receive support from the locals politicians and even parents. My current property taxes are outrageous for owning a tiny tenth of an acre, and my kids will be going to a school where the average class size between 25-30. All while the side walk in front of my house has more grass on it than most of my backyard. Who knows where the property tax money flows to. My point being that if my taxes are going to be high, then at least have acceptable public schools, and if they did this it would make Manchester an extremely desirable place to raise a family. But I guess the fiscally conservative part of me should just be quiet ;) Pretty much a walking contradiction.

You're right on about the balance between taxes and services. Ideally, taxes would be low and services reliable, but I think something needs to change in Manchester (and New Hampshire) when it comes to the tax structure and allocation of funding. I would describe myself as fiscally prudent (I don't think there's anything "conservative" or prudent about deferred maintenance), and I think spending money through taxes to invest in certain infrastructure and programs can pay dividends in the future.

Compared to many of the surrounding towns, Manchester actually has a relatively low property tax rate. Obviously, it doesn't have the same property values as some of the suburbs like Bedford, so a rate of $18 per $1000 on a property valued at $200,000 in Manchester doesn't amount to the same revenue as the same rate would on a $500,000 house in Bedford, but it also means a lower tax bill. What I don't like about the tax cap--aside from the undemocratic idea of a simple majority in the past being able to require a supermajority to make a different decision in the future--is that it arbitrarily sets tax rates. For instance, Manchester effectively cannot raise taxes above the rates that were set as a result of the budget-cutting years of the Guinta administration, which coincided with the last years before the recession and the resultant drop in property values. So Manchester is not only stuck with a tax rate of, say, $18 on $1,000, but with property values declining, the $18 may now be collected on a property valued at $150,000 instead of $200,000. When you couple that decline with the fact that taxes were capped at a time of limited investment and budget cuts, then you have what amounts to forced austerity for city spending, which results in the city not having the means to invest in its future. It's no surprise that issues like the quality of education, the availability of public transit, and the state of sidewalks and roads have come to a head after four years of the tax cap which was preceded by four years of budget cuts.

Manchester needs to raise its taxes in order to properly invest in its future. And if higher taxes mean better schools, sidewalks and so forth, then I think people will agree that it's a worthwhile trade-off. And if they don't, then there's always the "tax cap" of elections every other year. But without increased revenue and sustainable funding, it's going to be very hard for the city to get private developers to want to invest in the city, or to get families to want to set up or keep roots in Manchester.

The city also needs better assistance from the state, as well as more flexibility in how it generates revenue. Suburbs like Bedford, Hooksett and Londonderry directly benefit from their proximity to Manchester and the sort of amenities it alone in the region can provide, but because of municipal boundaries they don't have to help fund the many needs that a city like Manchester has that more affluent suburbs don't. The same is also true, though more indirectly, of towns elsewhere in the state, which benefit from amenities like the airport and the availability of major businesses in Manchester, but don't have to fund the infrastructure or social services there. That's unfair and untenable. A simple, low income tax (perhaps accompanied by a decent homestead exemption for local property taxes) could offset the costs that communities like Manchester now bear, ensuring a more equitable revenue source, both in terms of the individual ability to pay and in addressing needs that don't follow town lines. Assuming that an income tax is not in the cards, then cities and towns in the state should be given greater flexibility in assessing taxes and fees, so that Manchester could, say, add .25% to the state's 9% hospitality tax. It doesn't sound like much, and most diners and travelers probably wouldn't notice the difference, but it could allow Manchester to make some money on its vibrant dining and hotel economy.
 
The building, yes, good. Student housing, psh... Just make it straight residential. That is what the city needs. More inner city middle class to luxury apartments.

Although I would rather see the building be student housing than sit there vacant or offices, and that short video concept adds additional floorspace to the property, students often do not stay in the city. And the city feels like it is predominantly inhabited with lower class residence. The only money come sin from students and surrounding towns.
 
I love the idea of a new mixed building where the old Police Station is, but God is it ugly. Well the colors anyway. I'm guessing that is suppose to be geared towards the SNHU crowd.
I would be so excited if they had the light rail come thru Manchester like that. I could easily walk to a couple stops. Not to mention the value of properties would go up which are within walking distance of the stops.
Anyone else looking forward to the Bass Pro Shops opening up in Hooksett? It will be a great place to take the kids for an hour and just browse around and of course people watch!
 
I JUST came across the Bass Pro Shops too. Even though I do not have kids, yes, it is an alright store. I am guessing, the old Lowe's building?

Ugly colors?! I love that look! And colors.
 
Google Maps seems to have the neighborhoods in Manchester. If you click on it, it shows the outline of the neighborhood. (Downtown, Hallsville,Piscataquog, Bakersville)
 
In the parking lot where they proposed a concept of granite landing, a dunkin donuts with drive through is going there.
 
I get my haircut across the street from this Dunkin donuts they are building and they mentioned to me the Dunkin in Granite Square (South Main Street) will close as it does not have a drive thru. I was hoping for a mom and pop donut shop like Brother's donuts in Franklin, NH. Which by the way has the best donut I ever had.
 

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