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Sunstone Hotel Investors Gets Set to Hit the Bricks

Marriott Long Wharf Owner Plans Improvements To Barren Walkways Around Waterfront Building

By Thomas Grillo
Reporter

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The brick walkways surrounding the Boston Marriott Long Wharf Hotel could be replaced with grass and trees.

The windswept brick wasteland around the Boston Marriott Long Wharf Hotel is set for a makeover.

Sunstone Hotel Investors purchased the 402-room Marriott last spring for $231 million from Downtown Boston Properties. Company officials have met with Boston Redevelopment Authority staffers to brief them on plans to update the 25-year-old hotel on the city?s waterfront.

Under discussion are designs that would replace portions of the exterior walls with glass; surround the hotel with street-level caf?s, restaurants and shops; and eliminate the barren brick walkways on all sides of the building.

?We believe the area of the hotel located next to Christopher Columbus Park has lots of potential,? said Bryan Giglia, Sunstone?s vice president of corporate finance. ?We are looking at ways to increase the hotel?s value and overall appearance.?

Giglia provided few details, saying only that a $14 million renovation of the rooms and the addition of several suites will commence in November. He said the California-based company is evaluating opportunities around the hotel for increased public access.

Mayor Thomas M. Menino said he?s excited that Sunstone is willing to spend money to improve the hotel?s waterfront access and create places that the public wants to visit. ?The new owners will make the area more attractive,? he said.

City officials said the facelift could represent a dramatic change to a section of the waterfront that resembles City Hall Plaza.

?Now, the hotel consists of blank brick walls and a plaza to match,? said Richard McGuinness, the BRA?s deputy director for waterfront planning. ?So the visual effect is you don?t know where the ground ends and the building begins. We?ve been trying to improve both sides of Long Wharf.?

The city, along with the state Executive Office of Transportation, recently invested $1.5 million to improve Christopher Columbus Waterfront Park, which is located next to the Marriott. For years, the green space has been an oasis to relax and enjoy the harbor. The grassy park features a tot lot, a statue of Christopher Columbus, a fountain and a rose garden.

?We redid the park and walkways and now we?re looking at what can be done with the buildings around it,? said McGuinness. ?More than 3 million people go to Long Wharf annually, so it?s a hub itself and we want to activate it.?

Several years ago, the BRA convinced the Marriott to open Tia?s, a restaurant that spills onto the plaza. Also at the city?s urging, the hotel built ticket booths in front of the facility to help make it a destination.

?But to have a real impact on that building, the new owners will have to see whether they can break through the brick, evaluate what?s behind there and see if it can be moved,? McGuinness said.

The goal, he added, is to remove portions of the red-brick exterior walls and create first-floor retail that will overlook the Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy Greenway and the harbor and make the area more pedestrian-friendly.

?A Good Sign?


While the Boston Harbor Hotel on Rowes Wharf offers caf?s and a huge archway that provides dramatic waterfront views, the Marriott reflects the era when it was build, according to McGuinness.

When construction was planned for the Marriott in the 1970s, the harbor was polluted and there was not much street activity along the abandoned wharfs. Waterfront builders were faced with the Southeast Expressway on one side and a polluted harbor on the other. As a result, architects did not design projects that looked onto the water or the street. Some say the exterior of the Marriott looks more like a bunker than a 3-star hotel.

?If you notice, the New England Aquarium does not have any windows,? McGuinness said. ?Boston Harbor was not so valuable back then.?

The other factor that hurt the Marriott, he noted, was that the original owners failed to place the kitchen, storage and laundry facilities beneath the hotel. If they had, perhaps more space would have been available for the public.

?They were reluctant to dig deep because that?s filled tideland, so the cost and engineering was a factor,? McGuinness said. ?If they had dug, they could have located some of their services below grade.?

Today, the elevated Central Artery has been replaced with the Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy Greenway. The 27-acre park includes gardens, fountains, and a tree-lined promenade. In addition, new construction including the InterContinental Boston has helped transform the waterfront.

The plan by Sunstone comes on the heels of a study earlier this year that named Boston to the ?Hall of Shame? for cities with the world?s worst waterfront development and limited pedestrian access.

The Project for Public Spaces, a New York-based nonprofit group dedicated to creating and sustaining public places, criticized Boston for failing to live up to its potential as a world-class city. At the time, Frederick Kent, the group?s president, said Boston lacks ?must-see waterfront destinations? and ?has never lived up to its potential as a city by the bay.?

The seven-city list put Boston fourth behind New York City, Copenhagen, Denmark, and Hong Kong, and just ahead of Tokyo, Seattle and Paris. Despite a handful of new developments in the city?s Seaport District ? including the InterContinental Boston Hotel, with its waterfront park ? the study found that most new oceanside developments lack quality public spaces.

At the time, Vivian Li, executive director of The Boston Harbor Association, an advocacy group whose mission is to promote a clean and accessible harbor, dismissed the study and said Boston does not deserve the designation.

McGuinness also disputed the study, noting that while some waterfront locations have limited public access to protect public safety and marine industry operations, there are connections to a network of trails including the Emerald Necklace, the Charles River Esplanade and the Rose Kennedy Greenway.

McGuinness said the report failed to consider Boston?s HarborWalk, which offers 47 miles of green and open space through the city?s waterfront neighborhoods. It extends from the downtown area to the Neponset River through East Boston, Charlestown, the North End, South Boston and Dorchester.

Menino stressed that the record per-room price for a Boston hotel, $568,000, is another signal that Boston is the place to be.

?It?s a good sign when a national corporation is willing to pay those kinds of prices,? he said. ?It demonstrates that they are interested in investing in Boston and the price they paid shows lots of confidence in the hotel market in our city. It means Boston has a great future.?
 
Good to hear. The Marriot Long Wharf is just so dated despite being so expensive.
 
"McGuinness said the report failed to consider Boston?s HarborWalk, which offers 47 miles of green and open space through the city?s waterfront neighborhoods. It extends from the downtown area to the Neponset River through East Boston, Charlestown, the North End, South Boston and Dorchester."

"Destination?" A path (what the harborwalk really is) is something that one would expect would lead to a destination...as of now there is none.
 
And much of the blue paint that marks the Harborwalk has faded away. How can they grade us on something that is nearly impossible to find or use?
 
^^ There was a blue line that marked the HarborWalk?

Why?

Here's a hint:

If you walking away from the water you are going the wrong way.
If you are wet, you are going the wrong way.

Simple.
 
Does the Charles River count as "Waterfront"? How can you compare Boston to cities that are only on a river like Paris?

btw-I understand his point but it is dishonest to say the Harborwalk extends to the Neponset River when there are still giant gaps from north of Tenean Beach and again north of Castle Island. The Harborwalk is improving but remains a work in progress.
 
Very Random List

Without defining specific objective criteria -- it's very hard to put together a ranked list.

Then there all the dozens of other major waterfront cities not even on the list including:
London, St. Petersburg, Amsterdam, Hamburg, New Orleans, Savannah, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Singapore, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Gdansk, Venice, San Diego??

I think the list is very arbitrary -- but the points made about public access to the waterfront and inviting the public to visit are important and should be discussed.

Some parts of Boston do extraordinarily well with water {e.g. the Esplanade}, some do OK {e.g. Rowe's Wharf down to Russia Wharf, Piers Park in East Boston

However, there are plenty of places that need lots of work to be pedestrian and visitor friendly -- not counting the industrial sea port areas where casual public access has to be limited for both safety and security.

Westy
 
Any update on the Marriot on Long wharf?

It would be great to see some of the brick bunker look replaced by brick Bulfinch Warehouse-style-look combined with it sprouting some openable glass canopies a la Quincy Market

Sunstone {Marriot?s owner} should try to cut a deal with the Menino to allow the kitchens and other hotel services and such to move into an underground annex extending under the strip of land on the Chris Columbus Park side of the hotel to free-up the ground floor spaces inside of the brick.

Westy
 
I was in there a week or so ago, everything in the lobby seemed very temporary and underwhelming. A few nice touches around the reception desk, though. I'm sorry to say it, but this building needs to be torn down or given a very serious renovation. Massing is alright, but the PoMo styling is such a killer.
 
+1

It really is a legoland pile of bricks.

The massing of it really does not make sense. The balconies do have awesome, unique views (I and my parents have stayed here) that you can't get at other hotels (besides the 26th fl open-air observation deck on top of Marriott's Custom House which is arguably the best vantage point in the city), but the building itself is a true eyesore. At least City Hall has solid architectural theory behind it. This is truly just a pile of bricks.
 
As one of the few on this forum old enough to remember when the Marriott Long Wharf was built, I seem to remember that the building itself was supposed to mimic the style of the original wharf buildings (wikipedia has a pic under history of long wharf, I'm also too old to figure how to transfer that pic over to here) that surrounded it. Part of the ground floor was also mandated to be a public access walk-through which is the reason you take an escalator to the lobby level of the hotel. Marriott Long Wharf might now be viewed as a huge pile of bricks but at the time it was built, it was a very cool, very hip, pile of bricks, and it was Marriott's most successful, money making hotel!!
 
I think the mimicking was of India Wharf
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Designed by Bulfinch; these days, they couldn't have torn it down.
 
As one of the few on this forum old enough to remember when the Marriott Long Wharf was built, I seem to remember that the building itself was supposed to mimic the style of the original wharf buildings (wikipedia has a pic under history of long wharf, I'm also too old to figure how to transfer that pic over to here) that surrounded it. Part of the ground floor was also mandated to be a public access walk-through which is the reason you take an escalator to the lobby level of the hotel. Marriott Long Wharf might now be viewed as a huge pile of bricks but at the time it was built, it was a very cool, very hip, pile of bricks, and it was Marriott's most successful, money making hotel!!

It still is. It's a Level 7 Marriott Rewards destination (Compared to Copley Pl, which is a Level 6). I can totally understand the desire for a public throughway but it's not even used that way. Most of the public (including myself) circulate around the outside of the building. There's no excuse for the uninviting windowless brick walls. It's so sad too because the spatial experience of the interior (especially the atrium) is so dramatic. It would have been great if that energy could have been transferred to the facade.
 
The painted Harborwalk runs right through the building, which is supposed to encourage people to walk through it.

Getting back to topic ... why was the 2007 plan cancelled?
 
I think NIMBYs played a role in delaying then the Financial Collapse did in the money and economics
 
Was in this building yesterday. Lobby looks completely different, but not sure I like it.

Also,

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I think the Marriot is land-grabbing.
 

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