- Jun 29, 2013
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As an order-of-magnitude, a 1x2 foot piece of copper sheeting at Home Depot is $17. So that copper probably cost 1-2 grand - less than 0.1% of the project cost.
Does raise the question of why a single elevator costs $3.8 million at the MBTA, when the going rate for an elevator that can serve a whole building is in the $20k to $200k range depending on circumstances. Not as bad the MTA but still shocking price for what's essentially an elevator that travels one floor. A one floor hydraulic elevator shouldn't be nearly that expensive.As an order-of-magnitude, a 1x2 foot piece of copper sheeting at Home Depot is $17. So that copper probably cost 1-2 grand - less than 0.1% of the project cost.
Cambridge in general and Harvard Sq. in particular are anti-consistent about that. I learned from a decade living in the People's Republic that there's little rhyme or reason to the "neighborhood character" choices they make. "The Pit" is another 1980's creation that clashes more than it complements.When you build new stuff in a historic district don't they sometimes ask for consistent materials?
T used to use copper extensively for anything exposed to weather -- e.g. the original Orange Line Elevated stations, Green Line Elevated station at North Station
For those who can't be bothered to go hunting for it. Personally I think it looks really cool but yeah I'm not sure how it will age. Also as someone pointed out, quite expensive for a "cash strapped" agency.
I'm not concerned about the cost, I just think it is visually over the top. A copper roof and some highlights would be great. Copper walls, not so much.As an order-of-magnitude, a 1x2 foot piece of copper sheeting at Home Depot is $17. So that copper probably cost 1-2 grand - less than 0.1% of the project cost.
Rebuilding them for freight storage, since GLX construction disrupts most of Pan Am's usual Somerville storage tracks and they need immediate offsets. They're first patching the falling-apart portions of the retaining wall around Mystic Ave., which is why the outermost track is ripped up. Tracks will be re-laid as double-track all the way to Assembly, then switch down at the end to a short length of single for running around a locomotive. Bumper post for end-of-track will be in the vicinity of where the walking path dips around the Partners Healthcare south driveway.Does anyone know why they're tearing up the tracks on the disused ROW next to the Sullivan Station Orange Line tracks? A little bit of me hopes its for BRT or something sometime in the future...
Not sure if it's that big of a deal, the West Natick station parking lot might be the earliest in the system to fill every day. Fills by 6:30 easy.
When you say, "next to" do you mean the east or west side? I'm thinking the west is the disused side, based on the grey sections at the end of the west side black (freight) lines at Sullivan as shown in Van's Track Map, right?Does anyone know why they're tearing up the tracks on the disused ROW next to the Sullivan Station Orange Line tracks? A little bit of me hopes its for BRT or something sometime in the future...
Dunno. They're hard up for storage since "Yard 8" on the west side of the Innerbilt got mowed down to just one track (the distended loop-around BET from the Lowell Line) for carving out the GLX mainline. They're probably going to need the Yard 21 stubs for awhile. "Yard 8" was tiny; fixing the collapsing retaining wall so they can use all the space out to Assembly gives them more or less equivalent space (but less flexible switching between tracks). Everything's a TBD because they gave up their title to pretty much all yard claims in Somerville when they sold all their land for GLX. The tracks by Sullivan are less convenient to work around than what they had before, but they have no leverage anymore so they're just getting shoved in the nook/cranny that keeps them furthest out of the T's way.For F-Line: Will PanAm's use of the Sullivan/Yard 21 be
- a permanent change triggered by GLX? or
- just a temporary change only during GLX construction?
Walked by it this morning - the old tracks have been torn out, its been grubbed and they're actively regrading. Also snagged a new OL train view!
Expect to hear big GL bustitution news this week...B and C branch track replacement contract just posted for bid: https://bc.mbta.com/business_center/bidding_solicitations/pdf/T25CN01 Notice to Bidders .pdf
Way too early to start groaning at probable bustitution schedules since unlike all the D work underway this is at least a couple years off. This would slot under 25-year cycled renewal as the last major track rebuild on those lines was '98-99 in anticipation of inaugural Type 8 service. It's a job they would've had to do anyway in advance of the Type 10's being a different all- low-floor design requiring ace track conditions, so the timing fits.