neat urban planning stuff

Some of it. If you've ever seen pictures of the slums from 100 years ago and look at the same places today you'll see either new buildings or cleaned up older buildings.

It's actually more promising than, say, urban renewal because of all the extra land suburban development uses. The stuff that is built is built at a lower quality too so redeveloping suburbs will be theoretically simpler than redeveloping urban areas.

But there will no doubt still be places that will cling to their post-war designs. Hell, even Levittown, NY today has turned into a nice neighborhood. Suburbs aren't going to ever go away, just change.
 
Some of it. If you've ever seen pictures of the slums from 100 years ago and look at the same places today you'll see either new buildings or cleaned up older buildings.

It's actually more promising than, say, urban renewal because of all the extra land suburban development uses. The stuff that is built is built at a lower quality too so redeveloping suburbs will be theoretically simpler than redeveloping urban areas.

But there will no doubt still be places that will cling to their post-war designs. Hell, even Levittown, NY today has turned into a nice neighborhood. Suburbs aren't going to ever go away, just change.

I absolutely agree, van, and this can be seen by examining what the word suburb meant in the early 20th century (dense trolley based neighborhoods in inner core areas) and comparing this pattern with suburbs today. The word really has nothing but a transitory meaning based, coincidentally, on TRANSIT. It is probably no coincidence that the word used to describe the character of the descriptive word "suburb" is shared with the mechanisms used to transport people to that sort of a place. The former resulted in the latter. The transitory nature of the word suburb is based completely, in my opinion, on ever changing modes of transit.
 
Hell, even Levittown, NY today has turned into a nice neighborhood. Suburbs aren't going to ever go away, just change.

Because people built variegated additions to their cookie-cutter homes and the trees grew in? Structurally it's the same sprawly shithole. It's just an aesthetically mature sprawly shithole.
 
Because people built variegated additions to their cookie-cutter homes and the trees grew in? Structurally it's the same sprawly shithole. It's just an aesthetically mature sprawly shithole.

Yes but 100 years ago we would have said the same about the Lower East Side or the West End.
 
We would have called them shitholes but not sprawly ones.
 
So the new times square pedestrian only concept is permanent, bloomberg says. Van, any thoughts? How much better are things?
 
Thank f-ing god. Bloomberg is a total douche but he's done more to promote good urbanism than almost any other mayor in the lat 50 years. Fuck cab drivers, they've ruled the streets for too long. The new plazas are fantastic and the only people who don't think so are paid not to (NY Post writers).

Boston could use a few good plazas.
 
Are you serious? The lawn chairs with fat tourists sunning themselves in the middle of the intersection?

It would have been a great idea if they had widened the sidewalk substantially, but I think the new Times Square is cheap, ugly, and boring all at the same time.
 
The lawn chairs were always temporary. Why would they spend money when they didn't know if the experiment was going to work?

When was the last time you were down here? Have you seen it with your own eyes?
 
I was there in late July. It was a fleshpot of fatties from the Midwest.

Maybe it's better in winter, but that's a sad statement about a public place.
 
Perhaps now that there are fewer places to drive those fatties won't be so fat.
 
Do you mean because a few blocks of Broadway are closed?

Trust me, these people don't drive in NYC anyway. Their preferred mode of transit is the waddle. But they drive plenty where they come from.
 
I found this post on one of my favorite urbanist blogs, Emergent Urbanism. I won't post the entire thing here since I want people to actually go tot he site.

The patterns of place
February 15, 2010

(This article originally appeared in Get Ahead Magazine, for the Get Ahead Festival of independent short films in Brooklyn.)

When we speak of the identity of a place, we express a recognition of the patterns formed around us. We may not be conscious of them to the point of being able to draw them back with precision like Stephen Wiltshire, but we can remember them in the abstract, and in this way, identify different places from the abstractions we recall of their patterns. This is how one street can look sufficiently alike another that we can identify a neighborhood, and it is also why a landscape like Liberty City in Grand Theft Auto can feel like New York City, despite the fact that every object has been reconfigured to create a parody environment.

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For Wiltshire fans, check out the book Urville which is another autistic's city-drawing work (and completely fictitious planned city of 12 million inhabitants).
 
BU's Metropolitan College Urban Affairs department is offering a summer course called Boston Experience: The Role of Architecture in Creating a Sense of Place from May 18 - June 24. I thought the course description would appeal to a few people here:

An introduction to the formal study of architecture. Introduces the concept that the role of architecture is to develop and maintain a sense of place. Establishes why and how a "sense of place" is important to humans for social and psychological reasons and is also important to societies for economic, political, and health and recreational reasons. The city of Boston serves as a living laboratory for this introductory study of architecture. Using this laboratory, students work on issues of historic preservation, upkeep, repair, restoration, improvement, modification, removal, adaptive renewal, and new construction as these processes relate to the importance of a sense of place. 4 cr. Tuition: $2120
Link
 
Today's globe:

Edward L. Glaeser

Why the anti-urban bias?
(George Rizer/ Globe Staff/ File)
By Edward L. Glaeser
March 5, 2010
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Sending your articleYour article has been sent. E-mail| Print| Reprints| Yahoo! Buzz| ShareThisText size ? + THE BILLIONS of dollars being spent on infrastructure across the nation provide an opportunity to plan for a better America, but politics-as-usual favors sprawl over city. This anti-urban bias of national policies must end.

Over the past 60 years, cities have been hit by a painful policy trifecta: subsidization of highways, subsidization of homeownership, and a school system that creates strong incentives for many parents to leave city borders. Nathaniel Baum-Snow, an economist at Brown University, has documented that each new federally-funded ?highway passing through a central city reduces its population by about 18 percent.??

Subsidizing transportation decreases the advantage of living close together in cities, which should make every urbanite worry about the Senate?s fondness for using highway spending to fight recession. The current Senate jobs bill calls for a more than $30 billion increase for transportation over the next two years.

It is a mistake to think that spending on trains balances the scales. Cities will always benefit far less than exurbs from transportation because dense areas already have good means of getting around, like walking. Urban advocates would do better to either reduce highway subsidies or to balance that spending with more funding for urban schools.

Political leaders have long championed homeownership, but subsidizing homeownership is also anti-urban. Sixty-two percent of Boston homes are rented; 78 percent of Wellesley homes are owner-occupied. Cities are defined by apartments, and more than 85 percent of homes in multi-unit structures are rented. Suburbs are known for their single-family detached houses, and more than 85 percent of such homes are owner-occupied. Subsidizing homeownership, through Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the home mortgage interest deduction, lures people out of cities.

For many suburbanites, schools loom larger than fast commutes or subsidized mortgages. America?s local school system creates large incentives for education-oriented parents to move to homogeneous enclaves outside of city limits. Cities would benefit if the school system moved leftward, toward a more uniform national system like France, or rightward toward state-level vouchers that break the link between where you live and where your children go to school. School reforms that enable city schools to work more like a private market can harness the urban edge in innovation and competition that works so well in other industries, like restaurants.

The forces of history have created a moment where the right leadership could make America less anti-urban. The housing crisis, a renewed interest in infrastructure, fear of global warming, and the education reform movement could help bring about fairer policies for cities.

The housing bust exposed the myth that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were costless and exposed the folly of encouraging people to bet everything on the vicissitudes of the housing market. It is time to lower the million-dollar limit on the home mortgage interest deduction and to gradually reduce federal support for mortgage lending.

Across the country, a flurry of experiments is building the knowledge needed to improve urban schools. Education Secretary Duncan is trying to harness ?a perfect storm for reform?? by leading a ?race to the top.?? Education is not just the ?great equalizer,?? it is the great nation and city builder. Our country?s cities depend on the reformers? success.

The environmentalist movement is recognizing that cities are far more energy efficient than suburbs due to smaller housing units and less driving. Greens need to fight both against suburban highways and for more urban development.

In 2009, America?s five least dense states were awarded $1,100 per capita in federal recovery grants while the five densest states, including Massachusetts, got $561 per capita. President Obama can change the tilt toward low density. The most urban president since Teddy Roosevelt, Obama needs to fight for cities, not just as a matter of justice, but because cities, and the creativity that comes when humans connect and learn from each other in dense areas, are the best hope for the country.

Edward L. Glaeser, a professor of economics at Harvard University, is director of the Rappaport Institute for Greater Boston.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/e.../articles/2010/03/05/why_the_anti_urban_bias/

Sidenote: It's a bit of a simplistic article, but what really makes me truly angry are the comments (as always). If only the Herald were a more useful paper, these people would gravitate there instead. Why, if this article appeared in the NYT, would these comments not be expected to follow? Why can't we have a respectable newspaper that prints thoughtful op-eds for a thoughtful and responsive readership?
 
Why can't we have a respectable newspaper that prints thoughtful op-eds for a thoughtful and responsive readership?

Quick Fix:

The Boston Herald
The Cambridge Globe
 
^ Sort of. Cantabridgians have their own pathologies.

Whether from Cambridge or Boston or Quincy or Medford, Massholes seem to have a unique penchant for contrarian populism and smoking out hypocrisy. Although it wasn't constructive in any way, I did enjoy the comment on that article which revealed via Google that Glaeser lives in Weston...
 

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