Well, today there's no market for anything in the Seaport. If we had the sort of zoning laws that most European capitals have, there'd still be a market, but the existing crop of developers might not be as interested. It'd probably be diverse, smaller investors ... maybe a bit like the tenement and apartment owners in New York 100 years ago, or in triple-decker neighborhoods in Somerville, Cambridge and most of Boston today.
Many German cities have rebuilt (a la Nuremberg) under pre-war zoning codes and are dense, affluent and with thriving commercial and residential markets (that didn't get as giddy, or as deflated, as ours).
Exactly - developers will take the path of least resistance. It's much easier to play by the rules than to try and change them; therefore it's easier for banks and investors to predict returns.Buildings have always been the outcome of the laws that gave rise to them, and this is as true today as ever.
Developers will build what the law allows them. Change the laws, and you will get a new product.
No small footprints because there isn't a market for those small parcels. The Seaport District "planning" is a market reaction to the inefficiencies of too many small parcels downtown.
Well, today there's no market for anything in the Seaport. If we had the sort of zoning laws that most European capitals have, there'd still be a market, but the existing crop of developers might not be as interested. It'd probably be diverse, smaller investors ...
Probably the human-scale zoning is mostly for residential and retail use -- but Boston isn't just one big JPMorgan office and needs residential and retail uses as well.
Developers seem to think and act differently when forced to respect a particular context...
Why not think in a more pedestrian and transit friendly context? Change the rules to encourage (subsidize) more environmentally healthy building patterns.
^ vERY CYNICAL. pROBABLY MORE THAN IS JUSTIFIED BY REALITY. yOU SOUND LIKE jEFFERSON, WHO WAS ACTUALLY A VERY CYNICAL DUDE.Self interest is the only reliable human motive. Planning without reference to it is futile. The most effective regulation connotes nothing more than the embodiment one party's economically inferior interest being subordinated to another party's superior economic interest. All the rest is just a question of standing.
Caps lock?
I'm still not sure how much call there is for these ideals outside this board. We are a small group, and even we disagree more than agree. Are we just a small fringe element? Or is there really a critical mass of urbanists out there just waiting for someone to make the first step?
Of course the developers played by the rules in the Seaport. They were written for them so that they could have a maximum profit zone unique to the city. Why wouldn't they play?
...I disagree with your take on the ease of "playing by the rules." It is seldom easier to play by the rules if those rules are not profitable.
Many German cities have rebuilt (a la Nuremberg) under pre-war zoning codes and are dense, affluent and with thriving commercial and residential markets.
Smaller lots with clearly defined guidelines for height, massing, etc. would reduce speculation - developers would know just what they could build before buying the land. They would also have an interest in the success of the overall district, beyond their property lines. A different set of rules could still be profitable and encourage buildout in a timely manner.
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If they truly removed the Greenway, that's quite a change. Also, improvement.