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Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
There is certainly a principle based argument based on the nature of the jobs created.
Vertex and Liberty Mutual create middle class tax payer jobs.
A stadium produces dominantly minimum wage service industry jobs, and people who need government assistance to survive because their wages are too low (further corporate welfare).
There is certainly a principle based argument based on the nature of the jobs created.
Vertex and Liberty Mutual create middle class tax payer jobs.
A stadium produces dominantly minimum wage service industry jobs, and people who need government assistance to survive because their wages are too low (further corporate welfare).
Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
It should be noted that the Teacher's Union is no stranger to tough negotiating.
It should be noted that the Teacher's Union is no stranger to tough negotiating.
Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
Yeah, Hartford's doing just swell, with a city funded baseball field that's currently a year late.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkin'_Donuts_Park
Yeah, Hartford's doing just swell, with a city funded baseball field that's currently a year late.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkin'_Donuts_Park
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Please don't pitchfork me for reviving this thread--I have no news, just a question that hopefully yields answers.
Has Columbus Park 'stadium' at Joe Moakley Park in South Boston ever seriously been discussed or considered for a redevelopment into a soccer stadium? Given its proximity to JFK and the Expo site (as well as the land to expand), it strikes me as a logical option for converting into a multi-use, private/public soccer stadium that can be shared between New England Revolution and local/minor league soccer teams. Do we know who uses the stadium now?
Please don't pitchfork me for reviving this thread--I have no news, just a question that hopefully yields answers.
Has Columbus Park 'stadium' at Joe Moakley Park in South Boston ever seriously been discussed or considered for a redevelopment into a soccer stadium? Given its proximity to JFK and the Expo site (as well as the land to expand), it strikes me as a logical option for converting into a multi-use, private/public soccer stadium that can be shared between New England Revolution and local/minor league soccer teams. Do we know who uses the stadium now?
Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
This thread has 11 years of discussion. It has been discussed.
This thread has 11 years of discussion. It has been discussed.
Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
Why would South Boston want to give up one of its treasured parks? Honestly, every neighborhood in Boston should have large parks and great rec centers like Southie.
Why would South Boston want to give up one of its treasured parks? Honestly, every neighborhood in Boston should have large parks and great rec centers like Southie.
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Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
hope to God this never gets done....
unless one of the college football venues can be expanded for pro soccer.
do that yesterday.
then, i still hope half the games are still played at Gillette.
hope to God this never gets done....
unless one of the college football venues can be expanded for pro soccer.
do that yesterday.
then, i still hope half the games are still played at Gillette.
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Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
Re-read my post. I wasn't suggesting giving up on the park; I was suggesting investing in it. There is already a stadium at Moakley Park--my question was about expanding and modernizing the current stadium. From what I can tell, this would not adversely effect any programmable park space at Moakley Park.
Re-read my post. I wasn't suggesting giving up on the park; I was suggesting investing in it. There is already a stadium at Moakley Park--my question was about expanding and modernizing the current stadium. From what I can tell, this would not adversely effect any programmable park space at Moakley Park.
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Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
Which will get built first:
1. Revolution Stadium
2. Green Line Extension
Which will get built first:
1. Revolution Stadium
2. Green Line Extension
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Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
Can't umass sell the bayside land to cover their garage and deficits or did they start using it?
Can't umass sell the bayside land to cover their garage and deficits or did they start using it?
Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
I'd rephrase the question as "Which will get built?"
And answer it: GLX
I'd rephrase the question as "Which will get built?"
And answer it: GLX
Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
It seems pretty clear to me that Kraft has no interest in building a new Stadium for soccer. Every few years he picks a new neighborhood and engages in a half baked effort to start something in order to appease Don Garber and the Revs fans. Inner belt/wonderland/UMass. He's happy to have suburban families visiting Patriots place. Eventually they'll rebuild Gillette again 'with soccer in mind'.
The only way to change this is for Revs fans to organize, boycott buying season tickets next season and try to force a franchise sale.
It seems pretty clear to me that Kraft has no interest in building a new Stadium for soccer. Every few years he picks a new neighborhood and engages in a half baked effort to start something in order to appease Don Garber and the Revs fans. Inner belt/wonderland/UMass. He's happy to have suburban families visiting Patriots place. Eventually they'll rebuild Gillette again 'with soccer in mind'.
The only way to change this is for Revs fans to organize, boycott buying season tickets next season and try to force a franchise sale.
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I think this is Somerville's second chance. For them it would make sense to fork over money to get it. In the long run it would give Somerville such a much stronger idependent identity from Cambridge and Boston and at the same time make it more connected to those cities.
I think this is Somerville's second chance. For them it would make sense to fork over money to get it. In the long run it would give Somerville such a much stronger idependent identity from Cambridge and Boston and at the same time make it more connected to those cities.
Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
I'm not sure where you'd put it in Somerville now.
I'd imagine the city will sit on the inner belt and hope that the GLX will spur overflow growth from North Point.
All the land around Assembly is too valuable for a soccer stadium now.
Somewhere between Sullivan and Bunker Hill CC might be an option. Either way, no City is going to lease a load of land to Kraft when they can sell it for a fortune.
I'm not sure where you'd put it in Somerville now.
I'd imagine the city will sit on the inner belt and hope that the GLX will spur overflow growth from North Point.
All the land around Assembly is too valuable for a soccer stadium now.
Somewhere between Sullivan and Bunker Hill CC might be an option. Either way, no City is going to lease a load of land to Kraft when they can sell it for a fortune.
Re: Site in Hub top choice for a soccer stadium
Wasn't it the teacher's union that caused some issues when they were not pleased with what they were being offered to move?
Wasn't it the teacher's union that caused some issues when they were not pleased with what they were being offered to move?
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Nope. This is all woefully incorrect.
The truth is the the Krafts have publicly acknowledged that Gillette Stadium is not a viable facility for the long tern future of the Revs.
Gillette was built from day one with soccer in mind. I know. I gave tours of then-under construction CMGI Filed to perspective Revs season ticket holders. The field was dimensioned specifically for FIFA standards, as an NFL sized field would fit inside it.
The problem is, CMGI/Gillette was built with soccer in mind when MLS was starting to transition to MLS 2.0 and the rise of soccer specific stadia (SSS).
You could not have picked a more ideal spot for a Revolution SSS than Bayside. It fit the Kraft's edict that the stadium be located within greater Boston with access to public transportation. The visibility to 93 was an added bonus.
The Krafts were most certainly engaged in high-level discussions with regard to building on the Bayside site. I'm holding out hope (though, by a string) that these discussions are desperate posturing, but I fear they are not.
At this point, it might be back to the drawing board. But there aren't a lot of drawing boards around Boston to be found.
Nope. This is all woefully incorrect.
The truth is the the Krafts have publicly acknowledged that Gillette Stadium is not a viable facility for the long tern future of the Revs.
Gillette was built from day one with soccer in mind. I know. I gave tours of then-under construction CMGI Filed to perspective Revs season ticket holders. The field was dimensioned specifically for FIFA standards, as an NFL sized field would fit inside it.
The problem is, CMGI/Gillette was built with soccer in mind when MLS was starting to transition to MLS 2.0 and the rise of soccer specific stadia (SSS).
You could not have picked a more ideal spot for a Revolution SSS than Bayside. It fit the Kraft's edict that the stadium be located within greater Boston with access to public transportation. The visibility to 93 was an added bonus.
The Krafts were most certainly engaged in high-level discussions with regard to building on the Bayside site. I'm holding out hope (though, by a string) that these discussions are desperate posturing, but I fear they are not.
At this point, it might be back to the drawing board. But there aren't a lot of drawing boards around Boston to be found.