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In related news , Eversource has gotten the okay for a $1.5 Billion substation to be buried underground near Binney St.

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Specifically, 290 Binney - it's been underway for a while now. I believe they're currently digging out the underground vault for the thing.
 
They wanted to rename the Convention Center?
After Menino, yes.

And goodness, does that Globe article contain some zingers...

Plans also call for a dock at the stadium site for ferries going to and from the Encore Boston Harbor casino.

Umm... why? You'll be able to walk there much faster. They're building a skybridge.

And Maggie Sullivan, an attorney with the Conservation Law Foundation, criticized removing the site from the industrial port area via legislation as “spot zoning” and poor planning, saying it would undermine the state’s clean energy goals by preventing the land from being used to support the offshore wind industry.

Shine on, you crazy obstructionist diamonds. Has there ever been a proposal for this land to support the offshore wind industry? Ports for that explicit purpose are under development in New Bedford, Martha's Vineyard, and Maine, much closer to the proposed offshore wind developments.

I won't comment on the Revs' belief that building this stadium will make the "big four" a "big five", because they have to say that.
 
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After Menino, yes.

And goodness, does that Globe article contain some zingers...



Umm... why? You'll be able to walk there much faster. They're building a skybridge.



Shine on, you crazy obstructionist diamonds. Has there ever been a proposal for this land to support the offshore wind industry? Ports for that explicit purpose are under development in New Bedford, Martha's Vineyard, and Maine, much closer to the proposed offshore wind developments.

I won't comment on the Revs' belief that building this stadium will make the "big four" a "big five", because they have to say that.
Also Salem as support for off-shore wind.
 
Anyone know why they are keeping that little brick building to the left and what purpose it serves?
That's the old control house for the Eversource 115kV substation on Alford St. I don't think that building even gets used anymore but ES won't give up that real estate in case they need to further expand the substation.
 
In case you hadn't seen it, yet, the Revs stadium got included in the just-released economic development bill: https://malegislature.gov/Bills/193/H5100

Key bit starts at the end of page 296 of the PDF.

Our story is here, if anyone is curious: https://bankerandtradesman.com/revs-soccer-stadium-included-in-state-jobs-bill/

The bottom lines:
  • Stadium removed from the designated port area.
  • Doesn't obviate state environmental review or local zoning review.
  • MBTA gets a March 1 due date to present a plan to serve the area with public transit.
  • Boston and Everett get Dec. 31, 2025 deadline to strike community benefits deals with The Kraft Group or face arbitration.
  • Limits on public funding for the stadium.
We'll keep you posted if renderings, etc. suddenly show up on the Everett Planning Board agenda.
 
  • MBTA gets a March 1 due date to present a plan to serve the area with public transit.
This is a little much to implement on a state agency for a private development project with large impacts. It would make more sense to have the developer fund and procure a planning team and design.

MBTA may have resources in place to pull from, but typically funding availability, public agency contract procurement requirements, a mandated stakeholder input period, and an upcoming annual slow-down in contract postings and awards (holidays) makes this pretty much near impossible if there aren't already sources they can divert to this effort. And as is becoming more typical, no money is provided with a tight deadline.
 
This is a little much to implement on a state agency for a private development project with large impacts. It would make more sense to have the developer fund and procure a planning team and design.

MBTA may have resources in place to pull from, but typically funding availability, public agency contract procurement requirements, a mandated stakeholder input period, and an upcoming annual slow-down in contract postings and awards (holidays) makes this pretty much near impossible if there aren't already sources they can divert to this effort. And as is becoming more typical, no money is provided with a tight deadline.
Isn't there already a general outline with the previous studies for SLX running through the area to Sullivan Square?

 
Eng should tell them to pound sand.
1) That’s not part of his role
2) Why would be tell them to hit the Pike? The logistics sound like they’ve been put in place to make this happen. I agree on the design flaws, but again. These are CONCEPTUAL designs.
 
Reading between the lines, it seems reasonable to suspect that the MBTA's March 1 deadline is intended to create ballpark figures for busway construction. Boston and Everett can then present those to Kraft -- with outstretched palms -- during the community benefits deal negotiation.

And don't forget: The T got $22M in RAISE money back in June to design the busway, so it's not exactly like the idea is having to move from a dead start: https://www.mbta.com/news/2024-06-2...ebrates-over-25-million-federal-funding-three
 
Isn't there already a general outline with the previous studies for SLX running through the area to Sullivan Square?

I guess I'll bring this up again: The Silver Line extension is a good start, but nowhere near sufficient for moving game-day-sized crowds. The stadium will have 25,000 people leaving at the same time. Really generously, the Silver Line can move 2,000 riders per hour at current normal peak operation (100 riders per bus X 10 buses per hour X 2 directions). In three hours, that couldn't clear a quarter of the stadium.

The MBTA can absolutely do a lot to move more people on game days. For some wild guesses what the T will have to figure out by March, consider: What will it take to run a bus every minute? Every 45 seconds? How can they run almost an order of magnitude more buses than they do for normal rush hour? Where will those buses come from? Will they have to buy more? Where will the extra bus drivers come from? Is there space for those buses at Sullivan? What physical infrastructure is needed at the stadium bus stops? How much space is needed for thousands of people to queue for buses while letting others get by on the sidewalk? Which cities and which city departments will be in charge of crowd control, traffic control, and maybe closing streets? Who does the T need to coordinate with? How does this affect other planned street redesigns? Will the Orange Line need to run more frequently on game nights? What about frequencies on all the other bus routes at Sullivan? Or commuter rail? Should there be special game-day buses express to other transportation hubs like North or South Station? What percent of the stadium could the T actually transport in a realistic timeframe? How much will all this cost?

I don't want to give the impression these things should be overwhelming or impossible. But the Silver Line really isn't enough, the planning isn't trivial, and the implementation will cost money. The T needs a rough estimate of that cost by March, and then various stakeholders will spend the rest of the year fighting over who pays.
 
I guess I'll bring this up again: The Silver Line extension is a good start, but nowhere near sufficient for moving game-day-sized crowds. The stadium will have 25,000 people leaving at the same time. Really generously, the Silver Line can move 2,000 riders per hour at current normal peak operation (100 riders per bus X 10 buses per hour X 2 directions). In three hours, that couldn't clear a quarter of the stadium.

The MBTA can absolutely do a lot to move more people on game days. For some wild guesses what the T will have to figure out by March, consider: What will it take to run a bus every minute? Every 45 seconds? How can they run almost an order of magnitude more buses than they do for normal rush hour? Where will those buses come from? Will they have to buy more? Where will the extra bus drivers come from? Is there space for those buses at Sullivan? What physical infrastructure is needed at the stadium bus stops? How much space is needed for thousands of people to queue for buses while letting others get by on the sidewalk? Which cities and which city departments will be in charge of crowd control, traffic control, and maybe closing streets? Who does the T need to coordinate with? How does this affect other planned street redesigns? Will the Orange Line need to run more frequently on game nights? What about frequencies on all the other bus routes at Sullivan? Or commuter rail? Should there be special game-day buses express to other transportation hubs like North or South Station? What percent of the stadium could the T actually transport in a realistic timeframe? How much will all this cost?

I don't want to give the impression these things should be overwhelming or impossible. But the Silver Line really isn't enough, the planning isn't trivial, and the implementation will cost money. The T needs a rough estimate of that cost by March, and then various stakeholders will spend the rest of the year fighting over who pays.
Should be doable running off peak.
There would be Orange line access from Sullivan, Assembly (new bridge), Wellington (shuttle)
There would be existing bus routes and a new Silver line service. Maybe that extends from Sullivan down washington st to East Somerville.
I presume new private parking options would spring up north of the stadium in Everett as well as the Costco lot and Assembly parking.
I'd say a lot would come on foot or bike too.
The only place I see major issues is the old exit 28 off 93, that's going to be a mess.
Hopefully this spurs sensible development of Rutherford and Sullivan. Not just more traffic lanes and more parking lots.
 
Guys, it's simple. Just run a new spur of the Orange Line up Alford and be done with it. How much could it cost, a few million? (runs and hides)

Not sure how MLS games are scheduled, but agree the most obvious answer is special service express from the OL stops between Community College and Wellington during off-peak, supplemented by SLX. The Harbor/Mystic basin is such a great potential spot for a mob of water taxis and commuter boats but obviously harbor traffic and the bridges make that a challenge. More than anything it'll be interesting to see how car-brained the development ends up. Is there an 8 story garage just out of frame of those renders?
 
Guys, it's simple. Just run a new spur of the Orange Line up Alford and be done with it. How much could it cost, a few million? (runs and hides)

Not sure how MLS games are scheduled, but agree the most obvious answer is special service express from the OL stops between Community College and Wellington during off-peak, supplemented by SLX. The Harbor/Mystic basin is such a great potential spot for a mob of water taxis and commuter boats but obviously harbor traffic and the bridges make that a challenge. More than anything it'll be interesting to see how car-brained the development ends up. Is there an 8 story garage just out of frame of those renders?

My proposal from a couple years is looking a bit better, isn't it...
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I guess I'll bring this up again: The Silver Line extension is a good start, but nowhere near sufficient for moving game-day-sized crowds. The stadium will have 25,000 people leaving at the same time. Really generously, the Silver Line can move 2,000 riders per hour at current normal peak operation (100 riders per bus X 10 buses per hour X 2 directions). In three hours, that couldn't clear a quarter of the stadium.

The MBTA can absolutely do a lot to move more people on game days. For some wild guesses what the T will have to figure out by March, consider: What will it take to run a bus every minute? Every 45 seconds? How can they run almost an order of magnitude more buses than they do for normal rush hour? Where will those buses come from? Will they have to buy more? Where will the extra bus drivers come from? Is there space for those buses at Sullivan? What physical infrastructure is needed at the stadium bus stops? How much space is needed for thousands of people to queue for buses while letting others get by on the sidewalk? Which cities and which city departments will be in charge of crowd control, traffic control, and maybe closing streets? Who does the T need to coordinate with? How does this affect other planned street redesigns? Will the Orange Line need to run more frequently on game nights? What about frequencies on all the other bus routes at Sullivan? Or commuter rail? Should there be special game-day buses express to other transportation hubs like North or South Station? What percent of the stadium could the T actually transport in a realistic timeframe? How much will all this cost?

I don't want to give the impression these things should be overwhelming or impossible. But the Silver Line really isn't enough, the planning isn't trivial, and the implementation will cost money. The T needs a rough estimate of that cost by March, and then various stakeholders will spend the rest of the year fighting over who pays.

I guess one thing I'm thinking about is how without traffic, sullivan square is only 2 minutes driving distance. If a round trip takes 6 minutes on the exclusive busway, 30 second headways would need a dozen busses to generate 12,000 trips per hour. Stations for this capacity will have to be a lot of new planning, but I think the geography might make it possible to surge service without a proportional increase in drivers/busses.
 
Reading between the lines, it seems reasonable to suspect that the MBTA's March 1 deadline is intended to create ballpark figures for busway construction. Boston and Everett can then present those to Kraft -- with outstretched palms -- during the community benefits deal negotiation.

And don't forget: The T got $22M in RAISE money back in June to design the busway, so it's not exactly like the idea is having to move from a dead start: https://www.mbta.com/news/2024-06-2...ebrates-over-25-million-federal-funding-three
The MBTA should start politicking and present the cost for a Green Line branch to Everett via the Lechmere Viaduct, the Grand Junction right-of-way, Sullivan, and a new bus/rail reservation along Alford St and Broadway. Buses are not enough to serve this site alone. The Green Line system could be:
  • B: Boston College - Park St
  • C: Cleveland Circle - Everett
  • D: Riverside - Medford/Tufts
  • E: Heath St - Union
EDITED TO ADD: This is tongue-in-cheek, but I wish I lived in a world where this would be a reasonable proposal.
 
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