Nubian Sq. Parcel P-3 (nee Tremont Crossing) | Roxbury

[stick n move]

HYM renders

https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2022/10/04/hym-scores-key-ok-develop-roxbury-p3-parcel.html

 

[DwnTwnr]

Yet another super block. It needs a street

 

[HenryAlan]

Yet another super block. It needs a street

To what purpose would you include a street? There is no part of the road grid for which it could connect, other than as a cut through from Columbus to Whittier. I don't see a need for that. There are pedestrian passages and plazas in this design that do the work of breaking up the building massing. The overall footprint looks fine to me, for the constraints of the space.

 

[Winston3D]

I do wish they would save and incorporate the existing George Robert White Fund Health Unit building somehow.

 

[goody]

^^It would have been great to keep that structure in the mix somehow. I hope they have an option on the Good Shepherd Church property, that building deff doesn't need to stay.

 

[BronsonShore]

Yet another super block. It needs a street

There is a street in there, just not one built for cars (which, of course, makes it better).

 

[areiss]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1616472660040421377

 

[king_vibe]

A shame to see more 6 story papier-mâché residential, especially this close to transit.

 

[Jahvon09]

A revitalization of this area was planned for several times, then got scrubbed. I wonder if this one is a sure thing, or is it just another pipe dream. Seems that Nubian Sq. is always the last place to get stuff.

 

[dhawkins]

I think Boston Public Schools should take advantage of this site to build a new O'Bryant school/ campus with multiple structures instead of renovating the old one on Malcolm Blvd. It was an interesting building for its time (1983?) but not energy efficient and difficult to renovate with the existing concrete wall structure as well as being occupied. It would still be connected to the sports fields in the back and Malcolm Blvd could be built up with mixed use buildings with housing and businesses.

 

[TomOfBoston]

I think Boston Public Schools should take advantage of this site to build a new O'Bryant school/ campus with multiple structures instead of renovating the old one on Malcolm Blvd. It was an interesting building for its time (1983?) but not energy efficient and difficult to renovate with the existing concrete wall structure as well as being occupied. It would still be connected to the sports fields in the back and Malcolm Blvd could be built up with mixed use buildings with housing and businesses.

For Boston public schools standards, a 40-year-old building is practically brand new.

 

[stick n move]

After ‘The Embrace,’ Boston to see two more memorials to MLK and Coretta Scott King

“Plans are underway for Boston to build a second memorial, housed at the forthcoming Embrace Center in Roxbury, and a heritage trail that takes participants on a tour through the sites that defined the duo’s time in the city.

The two projects showcase a continued commitment to cementing the Kings’ legacy in Boston, an effort to recognize grassroots organizing work — by them and other Black residents — that has been overlooked in a city with a historic reputation for racism.

The 31,000-square-foot Embrace Center in Roxbury will offer performance, gallery, and community space. The center is being built by the same group that commissioned the $10 million sculpture on Boston Common, and is seen as an effort to celebrate the Kings in the same neighborhood where King preached.

Another memorial is slated to be built within the Roxbury center, though it has not been designed and an artist has not been commissioned for the project. Embrace Boston has raised private donations for the Boston Common monument as well as the center, though it’s unclear how much the finished project will cost.

The Embrace Center will offer a physical hub where people can organize around public policy issues ranging from housing to the arts, just as the Kings did. The Rev. Willie Bodrick II, senior pastor of Twelfth Baptist Church, said, “The center can be a safe space to continue to push that conversation,” and in turn, further the Kings’ legacy.

The Embrace Center, and its accompanying memorial, are expected to open in late 2027 or early 2028.

In the meantime, plans are underway to create a heritage trail marking the Kings’ work in Boston. The sites have been researched by filmmaker and journalist Clennon King, who has sought to expand what’s known about the Kings’ years in Boston. (Clennon King isn’t related to the Kings, but his father, C.B. King, was a lawyer who represented King during the Albany Movement, a desegregation and voting rights alliance formed in Albany, Ga.)

Clennon King’s years-long research identified 21 addresses throughout Roxbury, West Roxbury, the South End, Dorchester, Beacon Hill, and the Back Bay. They range from more well-known sites like the State House, where King addressed a joint legislative session in 1965, to obscure ones like 187 Massachusetts Ave., where the couple had their first date at Sharaf’s Cafeteria.

Clennon King hopes the markers will take the form of medallions on public property such as sidewalks, so that they are not altered by developers or property owners. He worked with real estate developer Kamran Zahedi, former state representative Byron Rushing, and local historian Joel Mackall on the concept.”

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/03...ee-two-more-memorials-mlk-coretta-scott-king/

 

[beck4537]

https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2023/07/28/hym-bpda-agreement-on-roxbury-parcel.html

 

[stick n move]

Awesome, cant wait until the day this hole in the street wall is finally filled.

 

[DwnTwnr]

There is a street in there, just not one built for cars (which, of course, makes it better).

In general, I agree with you about a street not for cars.
But streets are also visibly public spaces. Superblocks can so easily be privatized and not feel like a place open to the public--a real street that looks like a street can help ameliorate that. Or a private open to public passage thing that looks like a real street.

 

[Kinopio]

In general, I agree with you about a street not for cars.
But streets are also visibly public spaces. Superblocks can so easily be privatized and not feel like a place open to the public--a real street that looks like a street can help ameliorate that. Or a private open to public passage thing that looks like a real street.

The most visited place in Boston is Faneuil Hall. Its not a street. Thats part of its appeal. The same could be said of city squares all over the world. Streets are hostile to people.

 

[stick n move]

My City at Peace and The HYM Investment Group Announce Investment in P3 Roxbury by Professional Athlete, Mission Hill-Native Shabazz Napier​

“My City at Peace (MyCAP) and The HYM Investment Group (HYM) are thrilled to announce that esteemed professional athlete with local roots, Shabazz Napier, has made a financial investment in P3 Roxbury, a transformative, mixed-use development project in the heart of Roxbury’s Nubian Square neighborhood. Hailing from Mission Hill, Napier’s investment exemplifies his commitment to uplifting his local community and the vision he shares with MyCAP and HYM of creating a more vibrant, inclusive, and sustainable Roxbury. This significant project milestone also underscores the continued opportunity for local investors to join Napier in creating a bright future for the Roxbury community…..”

https://www.bldup.com/posts/my-city...al-athlete-mission-hill-native-shabazz-napier

 

[kdmc]

The most visited place in Boston is Faneuil Hall. Its not a street. Thats part of its appeal. The same could be said of city squares all over the world. Streets are hostile to people.

At risk of mincing words, you're taking street to imply cars, which is only true for the past ~100 years. Faneuil Hall Marketplace indeed is divvied up by two pedestrian streets: N and S Market Street. They are streets in the old sense of the word: public places, always open, always traversible. Critically, they cannot be arbitrarily shut down by an annoying property owner. There may or may not be food vendors and performers, but that's up to the city, not the property manager.

Contrast this to a superblock development, which may have cut-throughs, but never streets. The cut-throughs they have exist at the whim of the owner, not by mandate of the city. A prescient example is the Winthrop Connector, which was billed to the public as a "grand street" of sorts, but in reality is a linear shopping mall that gets locked up at night.

tl;dr: cities need streets, whether or not they have cars.