NYC Architecture and Development

[bigpicture7]

^Regarding above, a new article with updates yesterday (7/22).

Empire State Development approves Penn Station redevelopment

The Empire State Redevelopment has approved the plan to redevelop the area around Penn Station, in an on-going saga.

www.archpaper.com

The scale of this is NYC-style ridiculous: "10 skyscrapers"..."18mllion+ sq. ft."...."on par with Hudson Yards"

At least it features substantive improvements to the train station and its infrastructure:

The proposed reconstruction of Penn Station will include cosmetic upgrades, the reconfiguration of the train hall serving NJ Transit and Long Island Rail Road, subway improvements, and the construction of a rail tunnel under the Hudson River, all estimated to cost $7 billion, with the surrounding redevelopment proposal increasing the cost another $13 billion. The proposed design would connect to the Moynihan Train Hall, opened in 2021.

(from above source)

 

[vanshnookenraggen]

At least it features substantive improvements to the train station and its infrastructure:

L
O
L

The fuck it does. This doesn't do shit for the platforms or tracks; it adds nothing to the system. The Gateway Tunnel is an entirely separate project. The entire Penn expansion project should not be happening.

 

[bigpicture7]

The fuck it does. This doesn't do shit for the platforms or tracks; it adds nothing to the system. The Gateway Tunnel is an entirely separate project. The entire Penn expansion project should not be happening.

Well that's the last time I'll ever trust what they say in archpaper.com !

 

[Blackbird]

Not a single bench or place to sit visible.

 

[awood91]

Not a single bench or place to sit visible.

Glad to see it, assuming there are ticketed waiting areas. Vagrants have taken over the food concourse at Grand Central and it would be the same at Moynihan, if it weren’t for the ticket waiting areas.

 

[Suffolk 83]

Glad to see it, assuming there are ticketed waiting areas. Vagrants have taken over the food concourse at Grand Central and it would be the same at Moynihan, if it weren’t for the ticket waiting areas.

I'm not someone who's going to go hard for homeless rights here, but it says something about our society that we can't have benches in train stations anymore and its nothing good.

 

[found5dollar]

^Regarding above, a new article with updates yesterday (7/22).

Empire State Development approves Penn Station redevelopment

The Empire State Redevelopment has approved the plan to redevelop the area around Penn Station, in an on-going saga.

www.archpaper.com

The scale of this is NYC-style ridiculous: "10 skyscrapers"..."18mllion+ sq. ft."...."on par with Hudson Yards"

At least it features substantive improvements to the train station and its infrastructure:

(from above source)

This isn't a Penn station redevelopment. It is a way to give multiple city blocks and a ten figure tax break to Vornado as a kick back for helping to get people elected.

*reposted becasue of messed up syntax*

 

[found5dollar]

Glad to see it, assuming there are ticketed waiting areas. Vagrants have taken over the food concourse at Grand Central and it would be the same at Moynihan, if it weren’t for the ticket waiting areas.

Then the answer is to make things better for them, not make it worse for everyone else. We should all have a right to sit down in public spaces and have access to public restrooms. Even, or especially, the homeless should have these rights. Let's maybe house people instead of removing benches and restrooms.

 

[bigpicture7]

This isn't a Penn station redevelopment. It is a way to give multiple city blocks and a ten figure tax break to Vornado as a kick back for helping to get people elected.

*reposted becasue of messed up syntax*

Ah, "The aB NYC Architecture & Development Thread: Bostonians getting schooled on the corrupt dystopia of NYC development since 2013"

 

[Czervik.Construction]

Van, I know you have been in NYC for some time now, and I didn't get why all the money and effort was going into a new Penn station, but after living near Penn for several years, and that it is North America's busiest train station and one heck of a cramped, almost dangerously cramped hole at rush hour. Maybe the tracks and platforms have not improved, but having more room for all those people is a good thing.

L
O
L

The fuck it does. This doesn't do shit for the platforms or tracks; it adds nothing to the system. The Gateway Tunnel is an entirely separate project. The entire Penn expansion project should not be happening.

 

[vanshnookenraggen]

You aren't wrong, and they are working on that now. But what is being proposed is an unnecessary expansion done purely for political payback for a developer who's bought everyone in Albany.

 

[found5dollar]

They mayor's screws up yet another thing. What even is he doing?

Mayor picks QueensWay over new subway for abandoned rail line in Queens – for now — Queens Daily Eagle

Should a rotting rail line snaking through Central and South Queens be resurrected as a park or a new subway line? Queens has its answer – for now.

queenseagle.com

 

[themissinglink]

Mayor picks QueensWay over new subway for abandoned rail line in Queens – for now — Queens Daily Eagle

Should a rotting rail line snaking through Central and South Queens be resurrected as a park or a new subway line? Queens has its answer – for now.

queenseagle.com

Wow, that's really disappointing.

 

[vanshnookenraggen]

Backroom deals with wealthy NIMBYs. We are still fighting.

 

[found5dollar]

you all need to see this monstrosity coming our way at 740 8th ave (near Times Square):

Excavation Begins for 1,067-Foot Tower at 740 Eighth Avenue in Midtown, Manhattan - New York YIMBY

Excavation is set to start for a 1,067-foot-tall hotel and observation tower from ODA and Extell at 740 Eighth Avenue in Midtown, Manhattan.

newyorkyimby.com

other renderings from another unnamed architecture board....:

 

[theSil]

Hmmm. Maybe they're trying to do a 21st century interpretation of Singer Building proportions?

 

[Charlie_mta]

you all need to see this monstrosity coming our way at 740 8th ave (near Times Square):

Excavation Begins for 1,067-Foot Tower at 740 Eighth Avenue in Midtown, Manhattan - New York YIMBY

Excavation is set to start for a 1,067-foot-tall hotel and observation tower from ODA and Extell at 740 Eighth Avenue in Midtown, Manhattan.

newyorkyimby.com

View attachment 29352

other renderings from another unnamed architecture board....:
View attachment 29353View attachment 29354View attachment 29355

Hmmm ..looks like a ratchet set

 

[found5dollar]

there will be an outdoor "drop" style ride on the mid section part, the top is an observatory (images from another un-named other architecture board):

 

[KentXie]

April fool must have come late this year.

Otherwise, my condolences. I look forward to the day that this building gets demolished. This is one of those "just because you can, doesn't mean you should"

 

[393b40]

If there's a place for a stupid funhouse tower, Times Sq is it in NY... but yea, this is wild.