Police Details, Cameras, & Enforcement Methods

If the legislature wanted to end the need for Prop 2 1/2 overrides, they could outlaw right on red and legalize traffic enforcement cameras simultaneously. Instant windfall for municipalities…
 
Bus lane, double parking (and in some case bike lane) infractions only get solved by enforcement. You cannot design your way out of some bad Boston habits. If it is 'drivable' space, Boston drivers will end up there (look at trolley reservations!)
Oh, I am totally down for that. That probably would require quite a lot of cameras and technology but as a concept I have zero problem with auto ticketing this sort of scofflaw.
 
local police seem to never bother enforcing driving rules
just saw a police officer totally ignore a car illegally reverse into oncoming traffic after making a wrong turn right in front of his squad car. He was texting while driving so he didn't see a thing.

I'd be happy to have to pay fines for when I run red lights, since I don't intentionally run red lights and a lot of other people do.
 
I'd be happy to have to pay fines for when I run red lights, since I don't intentionally run red lights and a lot of other people do.
Anecdotally: there appears to be a lot more intentional rule-breaking among road users than there was 10 or even five years ago. It’s something we need to address as a society and the status quo is not working.

It’s something that BPD seems wholly disinterested in combatting. The next logical step is to automate the process. Cameras seem to be that step.
 
Anecdotally: there appears to be a lot more intentional rule-breaking among road users than there was 10 or even five years ago. It’s something we need to address as a society and the status quo is not working.

It’s something that BPD seems wholly disinterested in combatting. The next logical step is to automate the process. Cameras seem to be that step.

Is there more or do we just talk about it more online these days so it seems like more.

Same phenomenon as everyone thinking there's a child predator on every street corner.
 
Is there more or do we just talk about it more online these days so it seems like more.

Same phenomenon as everyone thinking there's a child predator on every street corner.
Real accident data shows that the average speed (and level of speeding and aggressive driving) increased dramatically during the pandemic, and has not come back down.

Increased road fatalities, increased fatal hit-and-run accidents....
 
Anecdotally, I have found that other drivers are a lot less tolerant of fellow drivers moving at the signed limit if they perceive that it’s possible to drive faster. I have caught myself pushing more aggressively to avoid the annoyed honks and dirty looks.

I don’t know if it’s just folks having lost some of the social graces in the pandemic, a change in the mix of drivers (shift towards gig work), or something else.
 
I mean, it's iffy. You the citizen is mostly likely to encounter the police in an adversarial way during a traffic stop - and it's at a interesting intersection of safety from multiple perspectives. Over the past 5 years, something like 400 people were shot by the police during traffic stops. To quote the NYT, "the chief enforcement mechanism of road safety for decades in America — the traffic stop — has been a recurring scene of police misconduct."

That said, the relative paucity in cop visibility in MA is probably at least partially related to the fact that most departments are still massively understaffed since COVID and the 2020 protests - being a cop isn't exactly seen as being progressive, and basically every municipal department is struggling to hire. A former classmate who is now a statie told me recently that the State Police has an authorized strength of over 3000 sworn officers, but actually only has close to 2300 troopers.

There's also quite a bit of research that shows increased police enforcement of driving laws don't improve road safety on a lasting basis - the memory fades the minute the police are out of sight, out of mind. It's a very reactive system, not a proactive one - You almost certainly have seen this driving on the interstates - traffic behaves so long as there is a visible statie, but the moment they exit, traffic accelerates.

USDOT still funds enforcement grants, but the new approach seems focused less on making stops, but making it known that it'll be enforced via messaging, but it's probably best as a component of a vision zero based infrastructure solution - USDOT is apparently referring to it now as SS4A (safe streets 4 all).

Generally, I don't think we need more cops on the road enforcing general traffic laws - most of the dangerous behavior other than DUIs can be targeted via road design and camera deployments. There's several interesting programs around the country where alternate enforcement regimes are being piloted.

 
I mean, it's iffy. You the citizen is mostly likely to encounter the police in an adversarial way during a traffic stop - and it's at a interesting intersection of safety from multiple perspectives. Over the past 5 years, something like 400 people were shot by the police during traffic stops. To quote the NYT, "the chief enforcement mechanism of road safety for decades in America — the traffic stop — has been a recurring scene of police misconduct."

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Isn't this an argument in favor of automated traffic enforcement?

Instead of a potentially, unneccessarily dangerous interaction with a police officer, you just get a violation ticket in the mail. Seems like a win-win on that front, to me.
 
If you take the human cops out of the equation, you also take the reciprocity of letting a fellow first responder or first responder’s family member slide. Enforcement becomes rote, at least until all the scofflaws install Q branch rotating license plates.
 
Legalize red light/bus lane cameras, allow for civilian reporting of parking in Bike Lanes/Bus Lanes as well as covered or obscured plates, and make police lock up their phones on duty and focus on the remaining dangerous drivers seems like the best case scenario here.
 

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