Portland International Jetport | PWM

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JetBlue’s decision to bring back MCO-PWM has certainly been a success. All flights I’ve seen to and from MCO have been 90%+ filled. This is for tomorrows flight from Portland to Orlando.
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JetBlue has been shifting some of their A321’s with Mint seats onto northeast-Florida routes this winter. Maybe we’ll see some upgauging and/or additional frequency in the future.

Hopefully B6 sees that there’s still a strong local market here and makes PWM-JFK year round again too.
 
The Jetport has updated the passenger stats list on the website..
Here are the numbers Jan-Oct comparing other years.
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2024 is up 198,207 more than 2023!!!
June thru Oct recorded the highest numbers each month in Jetport history.
The months highlighted were record months.
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I am beside myself on this one. I do have family in the Orange CT area, but why fly just to Tweed unless there is a big market for the area to Maine? ISP had a hard time as did HPN. This is just weird. unless they will use Tweed as a hub to other destinations.
 
My thought too. Unless they're offering connections at HVN (Which I don't think HVN is set up to do) I don't see how this would be successful. Portland to New Haven is only about a 3 1/2 hour drive. Close enough that driving would probably be faster than flying if you count ground time on either end. Plus, who wants to plan such a short trip around a 2x weekly flight.

It is nice to see Avelo at least "put their foot in the door" at PWM. Wake me up if they offer flights to some of their other bases (RDU, ILM, MCO)
 
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Once you get beyond the Route 128 mess, Hartford is only an hour's drive for many living in the Boston area. Perhaps the idea is for another airport to compete with Logan for direct flights to Florida and Texas, two states experiencing massive growth. Logan is becoming a bit crowded with no realistic signs of relief. If I had to, I'd do Hartford from Portland as the usual changeover in Charlotte can be painful with the crowds and distances to walk to other terminals. I don't like Charlotte except for the rocking chairs.
 
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I was surprised when Avelo opened up BDL, my thought was over saturation, but BDL is flying the international routes plus other routes as well. This now brings PWM back up to 9 airlines. Now the folks at MHT are probably thinking what is going to happen next. MHT had the territory north of BDL, now with PWM in the picture things could change. The same could go with Breeze and over saturation. Maybe the long term game plan is international when the FIS is up and running?
 
PWMFlyer said:
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I was surprised when Avelo opened up BDL, my thought was over saturation, but BDL is flying the international routes plus other routes as well. This now brings PWM back up to 9 airlines. Now the folks at MHT are probably thinking what is going to happen next. MHT had the territory north of BDL, now with PWM in the picture things could change. The same could go with Breeze and over saturation. Maybe the long term game plan is international when the FIS is up and running?
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Avelo hasn't stated any interest in flying transatlantic and even if they wanted to they wouldn't have the birds to make it work ( with their fleet of secondhand 737-NG's)
 
I'm normally elated with any new airline adding Portland to their route system but this one is a head scratcher? I agree with TC that a Hartford connection would make more sense than New Haven and I'm still amazed that Avelo can handle the operational support required for 51 destinations with only 20 aircraft.
 
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Sorry, I mistook HVN for Hartford with the "H" in the front. When I lived and worked in Manhattan, to get up to Portland I would sometimes take the commuter train to New Haven (cheaper) and would then rent a car there as it's a short walk from the train station. Renting a car at HVN was usually a disaster. The airport has no real business to substantiate car rentals. You are lucky if someone is at the rental counter--lucky. HVN is not really an option for people in the Boston area as it's another 40-50 min south of Hartford or 2.5 hours from Boston.


Portlander said:
I'm normally elated with any new airline adding Portland to their route system but this one is a head scratcher? I agree with TC that a Hartford connection would make more sense than New Haven and I'm still amazed that Avelo can meet the logistics of supporting 51 destinations with only 20 aircraft.
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Yes, that's the area corner for the car rental. I've probably been there 10 times in total during the day to pickup or drop off a rental car and can't ever remember hearing or noticing an airplane land or take off. None.
 
Moreover, Hartford's Bradley Int. Airport is night and day over New Haven's. It has 24 gates and an over 9,000 ft runway. New Haven has one gate and a 5,600 ft runway.
 
New Haven will be getting a much needed new 81,000 sf six gate terminal in the future along with its runway being lengthened to 6650'. Interesting to see that Avelo is commencing service out of Portland during the same time that the 2 gate expansion becomes operational just before Memorial Day. They will probably be forced to share a ticket counter with another less frequent airline because all of the available space is being utilized.
 
I'd love to see the route timing on those Portland flights. I wonder if what it actually is is a parking move; HVN is basically full to bursting and has no spare stands at which to park an additional 737 at. It has capacity for what, 5 airliners to be parked there? PWM is roughly a 35-50 minute flight away, which is close enough for an aircraft to overnight there and make it back to HVN quickly enough to make a 6th morning flight out of HVN possible, without waiting for a plane to arrive from say, RDU - and is likely just far enough away to be a plausible revenue flight. That also positions it well for connections, otherwise they might be better suited just repositioning the plane to/from BDL, but ULCC means they are hoping someone will pay them to fly.

(Not to say major airlines don't - it's one of the reasons planes overnight at outstations for most of the legacy carriers - not enough gates at their hubs.)

Portlander said:
New Haven will be getting a much needed new 81,000 sf six gate terminal in the future along with its runway being lengthened to 6650'. Interesting to see that Avelo is commencing service out of Portland during the same time that the 2 gate expansion becomes operational just before Memorial Day. They will probably be forced to share a ticket counter with another less frequent airline because all of the available space is being utilized.
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Well, that helps explain how Breeze is planning on squeezing in down there - they start flights from HVN to RSW (Ft Myers) literally tomorrow, adding Orlando, West Palm Beach, and Vero Beach before the end of the week. It's interesting that Avelo and Breeze are getting into each other's bases - Avelo adding service in Breeze's BDL base and vice versa in HVN.

That said, HVN has to be the fastest growing airport in the country right now, and that terminal must be overcrowded to bursting. It managed to serve through WW2 and the jet age (having been built in 1931) without running into capacity problems. I understand they're already relying on trailers to create enough indoor space - if Avelo and Breeze prove HVN to be a viable market in addition to BDL? Maybe that new terminal will need another expansion.
 
You may be on to something when it comes to Portland 2X weekly flights and you are correct with only 5 parking spots.
 
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Stlin said:
I wonder if what it actually is is a parking move; HVN is basically full to bursting and has no spare stands at which to park an additional 737 at. It has capacity for what, 5 airliners to be parked there? PWM is roughly a 35-50 minute flight away, which is close enough for an aircraft to overnight there and make it back to HVN quickly enough to make a 6th morning flight out of HVN possible, without waiting for a plane to arrive from say, RDU - and is likely just far enough away to be a plausible revenue flight.
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This would make sense and is basically exactly what B6 did with PQI.

Have overnight gate constraints at BOS? send a plane to PQI and have it overnight there with an early morning departure that gets the plane back to BOS by 7:30 in time to turn around for the morning bank to JFK/DCA/PHL ect.

and in the case of PQI, the feds are subsidizing this storage solution :p
 
It looks like Avelo is taking a play from the Frontier playback, flights leave pwm after 9pm which allows the New Haven flight passengers to enjoy the weekend in Maine I think there is more to this, additional flights ✈️ to come. MHT situation?
 
Wake me up when someone at PWM decides too fly toward the West Coast instead of Floriduh....or some tired East Coast "connection" destination.
 
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