- Oct 2, 2011
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Oh youre talking about the new Acela. No, the new regular trains. Last page you can see a picture of it with the San Joaquins branding. Thats what this news is about, more of these.With the same type of trains? I thought that Alstom was only making 28 train sets for the Northeast Corridor.
Wrong cars. The Alstom Aveilas replace the Acela. The Siemens Venture replaces:With the same type of trains? I thought that Alstom was only making 28 train sets for the Northeast Corridor.
Note that because of PRIIA state-level ownership of car fleets, Empire Corridor (Albany Shops) fleets and Keystone Corridor (Philly Shops) fleets can/will have distinct statie-flavored livery like the Midwest, Caltrans, and WSDOT/ORDOT fleets do. The national scheme/livery will only be on stuff that runs thru from the NEC endpoints and/or where the state-sponsored routes are parasitic pay-ins schlepping off a national equipment base (Wilmington Shops, D.C./Potomac, NYC/Sunnyside, etc.). Virginia Regionals, Vermonter/Valley Flyer/future-Inland Route, etc. will thus wear national colors. NY's scheme could go considerably different, since they also have their own fleet of third rail dual-mode locos that don't intermix with anything else (PennDOT obviously would need to paint its coaches to not clash too heavily with the stock national Sprinter electric that'll be hauling it points east of Harrisburg).I can't wait to see these show up in national livery and on regionals, though I'm really curious what Phase VII livery will look like for coaches, as the national post transition ALC42 Phase VII livery doesn't have the cheatline the Midwest fleet has, or even the phase VI and III liveries. Cheatlines look good on trains because they emphasize their inherent linearity, but following the trends established by the airlines, the new livery is a rather generic swoopy "dynamic in motion" thing. (which honestly reminds me of the Patriots jet)
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Should be able to. A little bit, at least. Amtrak Coach Class guarantees that as a systemwide amenity on all Corridor (Amfleet, Horizon, Cali Car, Surfliner) routes, so at least some of the seats in each car are able to do that even if that isn't inclusive of all seats. The Long Distance configurations (Amfleet II, Superliner, Viewliner) have way more generous reclines and wider-spaced seats so you can lay almost flat, but it's supposed to be available across-the-board including for non-reserved seating.The better get reclining seats though. The Chicago pic doesnt look like they recline. The two story California cars dont have recline either.
Nah Ive ridden the California system many times. The only recline is when they stick a national car at the back. Those seats are much comfier and have a deep recline. Thats infrequent though. The website is incorrect.Should be able to. A little bit, at least. Amtrak Coach Class guarantees that as a systemwide amenity on all Corridor (Amfleet, Horizon, Cali Car, Surfliner) routes, so at least some of the seats in each car are able to do that even if that isn't inclusive of all seats. The Long Distance configurations (Amfleet II, Superliner, Viewliner) have way more generous reclines and wider-spaced seats so you can lay almost flat, but it's supposed to be available across-the-board including for non-reserved seating.
Yes. It's in the PRIIA car specs that all doors can open at any platform, just like an Amfleet I. The short door has the low-level stairs tucked inside a covered compartment exactly as they are on the Amfleets. It takes one more flip move to expose the stairs. These long-door cars are for regions where *most* platforms are going to be low-level or gapped. The East Coast order may simply have the short door setup on both ends, unlike the Cali/Midwest ones with the long doors. If any of the Midwest cars get cycled onto the NEC, it may just be one end only that opens, sort of like an Amfleet II.So can both doors ever be used at the same time? It looks like:
left door is the trap and maybe a plate filler but I would worry about the plug door getting hung up on a real high platform (with wood edge)
The right door looks like the standard level boarding hi platform and also any platform that had a freight clearance set back where are the filler can shoot out from under the door
forgive my ignorance, but why does the Caltrans engine have the fairing on the rear, why the midwest one doesn't? Is this for aerodynamics when coupled with a different car set that is taller (double deckers)?They look damn good in the wild imo: