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FK4 said:
Was here on Friday. The aches look fantastic. I only wish there was some way the station could be warmer--it was freezing, but I guess that's always the issue for train stations.
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They've also removed everything but the Carvel/AAs on the glass side and added new sets of glass and doors. The exit doors will now run the entirety of South Station out to the trains. It creates a whole new feeling.
 
FK4 said:
I only wish there was some way the station could be warmer--it was freezing, but I guess that's always the issue for train stations.
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It's not. Grand Central Terminal and Penn Station in New York, as well as Penn Station in Philly and Union Station in DC, are all warm. They're enclosed except for where the trains arrive and depart. IMO that's a big mistake with South Station. They should have enclosed the east arch in glass, and hopefully they close off that gap above the old station house.
 
SMCYB said:
It's not. Grand Central Terminal and Penn Station in New York, as well as Penn Station in Philly and Union Station in DC, are all warm. They're enclosed except for where the trains arrive and depart. IMO that's a big mistake with South Station. They should have enclosed the east arch in glass, and hopefully they close off that gap above the old station house.
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Those are warm because they're either underground, or at least largely sunk below grade; ie, the headhouse is above the tracks. PVD is relatively warm for the same reason, but regardless of what you do on the arch end of South Station, you'll always have the issue that the other end of the platforms are going to always be open to the elements to allow trains to enter. It may be a covered space, protected from most wind and rain, but it's just not going to be a heatable enclosed space.
 
Stlin said:
Those are warm because they're either underground, or at least largely sunk below grade; ie, the headhouse is above the tracks. PVD is relatively warm for the same reason, but regardless of what you do on the arch end of South Station, you'll always have the issue that the other end of the platforms are going to always be open to the elements to allow trains to enter. It may be a covered space, protected from most wind and rain, but it's just not going to be a heatable enclosed space.
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True, but people will mostly be at the station house end, not the other end of the tracks. And having the "people" end enclosed would both retain heat and stop air flow. It wouldn't be fireplace warm, but it would definitely be warmer and less windy (and wet). It's not an all-or-nothing situation; enclosing it would certainly help.
 
Yeah, I think having the arch that's open to the street (I guess that's east) would have still made a difference. The one time I have been there this winter it felt colder than I remember it being before construction started.
 
stick n move said:
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Looks much shorter than the render, but the glass looks better imo.
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Exceptional photo. This angle juxtaposition gives it an ethereal and perhaps holy look, feel and significance. NY has that classic view from Brooklyn of the bridge and Manhattan skyline for movies. Maybe something similar for Boston? This one I think can also compete with Trinity Church and the clouds reflecting on 200 Clarendon.
 
SMCYB said:
It's not. Grand Central Terminal and Penn Station in New York, as well as Penn Station in Philly and Union Station in DC, are all warm. They're enclosed except for where the trains arrive and depart. IMO that's a big mistake with South Station. They should have enclosed the east arch in glass, and hopefully they close off that gap above the old station house.
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I was at S Station this morning—objectively a very cold one — and the actual station was plenty warm. The outdoor track area was cold, sure, but it’s, y’know… OUTSIDE. Not a big surprise or a big deal.
 
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SMCYB said:
True, but people will mostly be at the station house end, not the other end of the tracks. And having the "people" end enclosed would both retain heat and stop air flow. It wouldn't be fireplace warm, but it would definitely be warmer and less windy (and wet). It's not an all-or-nothing situation; enclosing it would certainly help.
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Stopping air flow with a bunch of diesel locomotives running is probably not a great idea. Maybe after the CR is electrified.
 
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