Stop and Shop Mixed Use | 1690 Revere Beach Parkway | Everett

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Flew over the area again Friday evening. It’s so nice to see the neighborhood knit together.

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Beantropolis said:
This seems to be our contemporary take on old commie slab housing, but I think it's even worse. Many of those Corbusian towers in the park at least ostensibly considered the well being of their inhabitants. The idea was that constructing towers would free up the land around them for greenery and open space, for the enjoyment and benefit of their residents. Of course, in reality, this didn't always end up working out so great.

This Vale St collection of 5-over-1s, on the other hand, doesn't even pretend to give a shit about the people living there. They are the products of a very cynical calculus. The only principle at play here is jamming as many human beings and cars as possible into the cheapest piece of shit plywood landscrapers that they can get away with. This is what density for density's sake looks like. This is density without culture or urbanism. It's dystopian.
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The tower in a park model resulted in a lot of green but not a lot of usable green space, there was tons of unusable awkward shaped grass plots but thats about it. They also were built at weird angles and on superblocks resulting in lots of dead areas. At least 5 over 1’s are built on the existing street grid and many times have ground floor retail, I think thats a step up. I’m definitely interested in the change that many cities are adopting to get rid of the 2 stair well requirement for 6 floor wood frame buildings which should lead to much less wide landscraper-like wood frame buildings that will be cheaper to build and fit in better to existing streetscapes.

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atlantaden said:
What the hell!! Those damn telephone poles should have come down! Shame on the developer and the city!View attachment 51248
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To be clear, this is looking up Vale Street Vero & V2 Apartments at the corner of Carter Street in Chelsea. From observation of new developments up the street and in other parts of the Everett Commercial Triangle, developers do bury the utilities underground and have consistent streetlighting infrastructure. Look up the street on Google Streetview closer to The Pioneer Everett for example. Anthem Everett on 2nd Street is also doing similar streetscape improvements, including preserving setback and ROW for future priority bus lane service.
 
dshoost88 said:
Flew over the area again Friday evening. It’s so nice to see the neighborhood knit together.

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All of this development makes me wonder, why is the BNRD's 104 being sent down 2nd St in a middle of an industrial pit, instead of along existing bus stops on Chelsea St. and Everett Ave?

The new bus route would be able to serve these new developments near Everett Ave. properly if it was routed via Chelsea St. & Everett Ave., instead of 2nd St. 2nd St. doesn't go anywhere near these developments, and the new 104 is slated to be in the first round of BNRD changes, meaning using Everett Ave. would allow riders to make use of the new bus route sooner.

Sending the 104 down 2nd St., is downright insane and ridiculous. Why not use Everett Ave. and Chelsea St. to serve these new developments there?
 
Delvin4519 said:
All of this development makes me wonder, why is the BNRD's 104 being sent down 2nd St in a middle of an industrial pit, instead of along existing bus stops on Chelsea St. and Everett Ave?

The new bus route would be able to serve these new developments near Everett Ave. properly if it was routed via Chelsea St. & Everett Ave., instead of 2nd St. 2nd St. doesn't go anywhere near these developments, and the new 104 is slated to be in the first round of BNRD changes, meaning using Everett Ave. would allow riders to make use of the new bus route sooner.

Sending the 104 down 2nd St., is downright insane and ridiculous. Why not use Everett Ave. and Chelsea St. to serve these new developments there?
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Everett Ave & Chelsea Street are already served by the 112. 2nd Street is currently served by literally nothing. And despite the massive amount of development happening at 1690 Revere Beach Parkway and along Vale Street/Everett Ave now, it pales compared to the volume of new units developable as of right closer to 2nd Street end of the Commercial Triangle.

Sofia, Sky Everett, Anthem Everett, and Vine on 2nd alone are adding something like 2,200 units. They make up <25% of the developable parcels along the 2nd Street corridor.
 
stick n move said:
^ If that exact street had ground floor retail, first floor residential entrances, stoops, and some more trees it would be a pretty nice neighborhood to live in or go for a walk with your dog through. Hopefully in the future theyll retrofit some retail into it.
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Isn’t the reason why all these new buildings are on stilts because the whole area is a floodplain / filled land and they need to elevate the occupied part of the structure above a 1 in 100/500 year flood? It lowers the master insurance premium cost because the floodwaters would “pass through” the unoccupied (by people, not vehicles) ground level. Obviously this is also the case in say the Seaport but there they have occupied space at ground level, presumably because the economics work there vs the Commercial Triangle. So maybe if land values go way up and Everett becomes a destination you’ll see more ground floor retail but I highly doubt anything significant for a very long time.
 
It feels noteworthy that the Vero development just over the Chelsea line hasn't managed to secure any retail tenants to date, and that the Pioneer's retail tenant is an expansion of a coffee shop across the street (mimicking the paired Dunkins just up the Parkway).
 
WestMedford said:
Isn’t the reason why all these new buildings are on stilts because the whole area is a floodplain / filled land and they need to elevate the occupied part of the structure above a 1 in 100/500 year flood? It lowers the master insurance premium cost because the floodwaters would “pass through” the unoccupied (by people, not vehicles) ground level. Obviously this is also the case in say the Seaport but there they have occupied space at ground level, presumably because the economics work there vs the Commercial Triangle. So maybe if land values go way up and Everett becomes a destination you’ll see more ground floor retail but I highly doubt anything significant for a very long time.
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Until this comment I had not realized how severe the flooding risk is in the Commercial Triangle. The whole area is likely to be inundated regularly in the coming decades, per the MA Coastal Flood Risk Model. Basically 100% probability of annual flooding by 2050.

Experience

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Given the amount of development in the Triangle, it is a little surprising that there wasn't more effort in advance to reduce the flood risk. (Of course the same could be said for the Seaport).
 
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The phrasing “compatible height and scale with surrounding developments” makes me sad.

From the perspective it looks like the buildings are fridge magnets trying to spell “a bed”.
 
does anyone know if this project by the wendy's have a name or is it still just 1690 revere beach?
 
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