A month later, here we are:
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I think most of what I explained upthread still holds true. This diagram is an experiment with using a fairly geographically accurate "inner zone" surrounded by a highly diagrammatic "outer zone". It's busier than the current map, but that's in part because it's showing additional information in the form of the new frequent bus network (which is similar to, but more extensive than, the current Key Bus Route network that was grafted onto the map several years ago).
As a proof of concept, this diagram is definitely not perfect in its execution. Lots more detail on my blog, but one major change I would make in a future revision is compressing the geographically accurate "inner zone" to be a bit smaller and free up more "breathing room" for the station lists at the margins of the map.
While this version is far from perfect, to me it points to potential viability for the underlying concept. For one, I think this demonstrates that the "design" generated by the physical paths of the lines in the core (especially the Orange and Green Lines) is both usable in diagram form (in terms of stop spacing, label space, etc), and also is likely pretty close to the simplest form it can be while still conveying bus and walking transfer information. The busyness of Dorchester and Longwood notwithstanding, this also successfully illustrates that the need for geographic fidelity drops significantly in the outer regions of the system.
As mentioned, lots more detail and nerding out included on my blog, including more information on the design challenges and thought process.
The dotted lines connecting DTX with State plus several other locations aren't explained at all in the legend. What do the dotted lines represent?
The dotted lines connecting DTX with State plus several other locations aren't explained at all in the legend. What do the dotted lines represent?
The dotted lines connecting DTX with State plus several other locations aren't explained at all in the legend. What do the dotted lines represent?
D’oh. Yes, that is what they are supposed to indicate. Loosely, they indicate “recommended pedestrian transfer, usually less than 5 minutes”. <— which is why I accidentally omitted it from the legend; was struggling to fit all of the existing content in already, and I meant to come back to it. My hope is that in a subsequent revision I’ll free up a little more space and be able to fit it into the legend more easily.Pedestrian connection, looks like.
I hear you. These two points are actually related: the jarringness is in part because I didn’t want to use shading to separate the two zones (I’m unsure about the visual accessibility implications).Might have more thoughts later, but there's something bizarrely jarring about the squared-off ends of the lines and the curved turns on some of the lines.
Also, it'd probably good to have a box or shading or something to indicate the segment that's geographically-accurate and the parts that aren't.
This is interesting feedback (thank you!). I do hope to make a future revision where the angles on the subway lines are simpler, which hopefully would help legibility. Like I said above, I care less about the geo-accuracy itself, so perhaps I should straighten out some of the lines in the inner section and maybe trim back the detail on the water — smooth it out to a simpler shoreline. (As mentioned, it sounds like there is someone at the T who is strongly opposed to this idea, but it’s worth a shot.)I think there's a level of legibility that is lost in trying to get the inner map geographically correct. It looks like spaghetti, and it becomes difficult at a single glance to make sense of it. The current map is less accurate geographically, but because all the angles are consistent it makes it easier to read and follow.
This ties into the better station names discussion. There's less of a need for transit maps to get the cartography right if the stations themselves provide that information. As I said in that thread, in general I believe the T has done a good job of this. There's some outliers, but for the most part the name takes care of indicating the actual physical location.
You know, that's actually an interesting idea there -- I wonder what the map would look like with SL4/5 modestly "demoted" and the T-X routes modestly "promoted" so that they use equal language...Once your map shows the T-X lines from the new bus map, there's no longer any purpose to calling out the Silver Line as more than that (except for the two dedicated busways). Certainly, the Washington Street SL1 isn't anything special now.
The only reason the MBTA keeps up the "Silver Line" farce is pretending that they replaced service on Washington after the Orange Line relocation. No need for your map to do the same...
Yeah, I hear you.While I like the way you showed the key bus routes, their coloring seems to be distracting from the rapid transit lines, especially the southern Orange Line near Roxbury Crossing (since the orange color itself doesn't really stand out). Maybe try coloring all the buses as grey (or "silver")?
That's the new T12 bus route proposed under the Bus Network Redesign (BNRD), running between Brookline Village and Seaport via Roxbury Crossing, Nubian and Andrew.There’s a weird grey line on your map going through the South End and the Seaport but it doesn’t correspond to any rapid transit line I’m aware of.
Ah, I’m pretty sure @king_vibe is mockingly referring to the Silver Line!That's the new T12 bus route proposed under the Bus Network Redesign (BNRD), running between Brookline Village and Seaport via Roxbury Crossing, Nubian and Andrew.
Ah, I’m pretty sure @king_vibe is mockingly referring to the Silver Line!
Yeah, I hear you.
Try this one:
Thinned out the orange by limiting it to the routes that terminate at Ruggles. The T22 turns Green, which is questionable since it doesn't actually run all the way to Kenmore, but I suppose it does offer the transfer to the E at Brigham Circle, if I need a justification. And the T12 I made Silver -- the only one on the map, but I figure since it terminates in the Seaport -- the land of the Silver Line --, there's some justification. I could also make the T12 Green, but I think that would be confusing with the T-intersection in Longwood.
But I agree -- it's definitely busy-looking.
Minor feedback:Alright, here's the result of some further tinkering (still a rough draft, a number of the finer details are missing):
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The big change here was to compress the inner zone so that the outer zone had a little more space to breath; the other major change was compressing the eastern edge of the map, flattening the Blue, Silver, and Red Lines, which allowed the center of the map to shift toward the right, opening space for the Green Line branches.
Some things are sorta successful here; I'm pleased with how the labels for the B and C Lines worked out (the spacing needs some adjusting but they at least fit), and the "hanging" effect of the Red Line branches is pretty much exactly what the underlying concept of this whole design is supposed to look like, so that's nice.
Compressing the SL4 was a mistake. Before drawing the bus lines, it seemed like it could be okay, but adding in the bus routes just suffocates that quadrilateral between Mass Ave, Mass Ave, Nubian, and Roxbury Crossing.
@Delvin4519, good call about the T111, particularly given how much this diagram already leverages arrows.
Looking at this against previous draft, probably what I will try to do next is essentially paste the previous version's treatment of the lower Orange Line, Silver Line, and Green Lines (and maybe Fairmount Line) into the new draft, alongside the compressed Red Line, Blue Line and SL3. I think that could be a usable compromise.
Thanks for all this! Yes, the capitalization is one of several finer details that I didn’t bother with fixing — there are bigger open questions with this design that I wanted to tackle first. And good catch about Silver Line Way — that will actually make a pretty big difference in that section of the map, because I can move it on to the “hanging” part of SL2, and consolidate further. Likewise, whether the T66 actually gets split up by the legend is a relatively minor detail that I’m deferring a decision on.Minor feedback:
- Silver Line Way should not be shown on SL1/3, as they skip the stop in the redesign.
- T7 and T9's "to City Point" is not capitalized, while all other bus route destinations are.
- I'd change T8's "to Harbor Point" arrow so that it swings back towards the Red Line at the end. Right now, it looks like Harbor Point is between the Silver Line and the Fairmount Line.
- The T66 arrows at the top left corner of the map ("to Nubian" and "to Harvard") look like they can be connected to form a diagonal line that goes underneath the legend.
- On its other end, the T66 looks like it terminates at Roxbury Crossing instead of Nubian, primarily because the orange-red-green color combination between the stations makes the thin red line hard to see. This is tricky to fix, but my best guess is that switching the lines to orange-green-red will help.
- The T111 still looks like it goes through parts of Charlestown. Maybe shorten the arrow to end in the middle of Charles River?
- I get that you're showing a short section of T47 and T96 east of Union Square to indicate that they're looping at McGrath Hwy, but TBH I'm not sure what's the best way to handle this. Officially, both are advertised with "Union Square" as the destination in all the bus redesign handouts. The Remix map shows T96 as terminating in the middle of McGrath Hwy, with the last inbound stop as Washington St @ McGrath Hwy (so still within walking distance from East Somerville station), but the first outbound stop as Somerville Ave @ McGrath Hwy (falling outside of East Somerville's walkshed). It's not clear to me where the layover point will be, and whether passengers will be allowed to board there when transferring from East Somerville station. Until these ambiguities can be resolved, I'd still suggest showing them as terminating at Union Square.