Thompson's Point, Portland

That's weird. South Portland pretty much accused Portland of trying to lure WEX to Thompson's Point a couple months ago, depsite an agreement between area cities and towns to not lure companies away from other area cities and towns. South Portland then goes and hires the guy building the development where WEX is supposedly going.

So, one of two things is happening:

(1) WEX is not moving to Thompson's Point and it's another business moving there; or

(2) WEX is moving to Thompson's Point and Jon Jennings agreed to help the City of South Portland find new businesses to replace the loss of WEX to appease them and keep them filing suit under that agreement between area cities and towns, which could delay financing and construction.
 
Yeah, this is some weird soap opera storyline stuff going on here. How would SP react if the guy they bring in is involved with dragging a huge taxpayer across to Portland?

Oh, and this came out well after I made my prediction on this thread....


RemDawg Says He May Open Portland Restaurant
Friday February 15, 2013 | 12:33 PM
Posted by $postAuthor.title

Major League Baseball broadcaster Jerry “RemDawg” Remy said in a radio show Thursday that he is thinking about opening a restaurant in Portland.


Remy was in town for the NESN Spring Training Kickoff Tour and made the remarks during a radio interview with Teddy McKay and Sandra Harris on WHOM 94.9, when he was talking about what he does during the off season.


“We’ve been exploring some possibilities up here, and I think it would be a great place to come,” Remy said.


Remy already owns four “Jerry Remy’s Sports Bar & Grill” restaurants in Massachusetts. There’s one at Fenway, one at Seaport and one at Logan International Airport. A new location just opened in Fall River a couple of months ago.


“We have looked into the Portland area,” he told the radio hosts. “It seems like a natural with the minor league ball club here. We’ll see if we can get some kind of a deal worked out.”
 
Just heard from a very inside source that groundbreaking will be June and they have pulled wright express. I'm guessing WEX arena will be thrown in as bait to lure them
 
Thanks for the scoop, Grittys. Good for WEX, I for one would welcome them to our fair city.
 
I know somebody on the construction side of things. He said he just saw the plans last night too. Thought he said there were only two buildings going up besides the arena....the hotel and the office building. That's right for the first phase isn't it? Said there was a lot of green space
 
I was wondering when and if the Thompson Point site was ever going to develop. I wish this place had an ice sheet/rink included in the main arena. You can never have too many ice rinks in Northern New England. This is going to be a "game changer" for the city of Portland. Looking forward to what the office building will look like, as the city council was encourgaging it to be "fancy" and sleek looking.
 
Sound promising! Hope this site gets going as it is pretty much peoples first visual impression of portland when they enter the area. The new bridge and painted oil tanks have certainly helped.

I don't have any inside information but just read at the end of this article, that there still was a possibility it wouldn't happen.

http://bangordailynews.com/2013/04/...ortland-can-fill-more-hotel-rooms/?ref=search



Absent from the morning’s discussion was the proposed development of Thompson’s Point, which would include a hotel. That project is still in its infancy, however, and is not a sure thing, said several people familiar with the process.
 
Big article on the land down there

http://thebollard.com/2013/04/07/doomed-metal/

Part that pissed me off was this

"Souza’s opinion of The Forefront hasn’t changed since he wrote his op-ed. If anything, his position has hardened.

“It’s fuckin’ criminal,” he said. “To be underneath a development like this, where all the advantages are given to the people with the money and the power and the interests .… There’s no voice, there’s no representative, there’s no legal right we have to stand on this point and be like, ‘No, you can’t bulldoze us like we have nothing.’ There’s no support for that. So the best hope, I think, is just to try to stick with each other in a group and use each other’s mutual advantage.”"

You obviously don't care about your town if you think a few guys rehearsing death metal is more valuable that turning a wastleland into something that will bring millions of dollars, jobs and entertainment to people here for decades to come.

This line here also backs up what I said about them locking up an office tenant and getting ready to start building.....

"Although it has encountered numerous obstacles over the past two years — including a four-month hang-up with the state and a railway company over a permit — Thompson said the Forefront project is back on track. He expects construction will begin later this spring."
 
Big article on the land down there

http://thebollard.com/2013/04/07/doomed-metal/

Part that pissed me off was this

"Souza’s opinion of The Forefront hasn’t changed since he wrote his op-ed. If anything, his position has hardened.

“It’s fuckin’ criminal,” he said. “To be underneath a development like this, where all the advantages are given to the people with the money and the power and the interests .… There’s no voice, there’s no representative, there’s no legal right we have to stand on this point and be like, ‘No, you can’t bulldoze us like we have nothing.’ There’s no support for that. So the best hope, I think, is just to try to stick with each other in a group and use each other’s mutual advantage.”"

You obviously don't care about your town if you think a few guys rehearsing death metal is more valuable that turning a wastleland into something that will bring millions of dollars, jobs and entertainment to people here for decades to come.

This line here also backs up what I said about them locking up an office tenant and getting ready to start building.....

"Although it has encountered numerous obstacles over the past two years — including a four-month hang-up with the state and a railway company over a permit — Thompson said the Forefront project is back on track. He expects construction will begin later this spring."

They'll have to find a new place to smoke their dope.
 
http://www.pressherald.com/news/Portland-forum-to-focus-on-neighborhood-traffic-.html Here is the link which details the current status of the Thompson Point and Libbytown proposals.

Nice to see some news about the project again. At this point I am more excited about the positive changes to Libbytown (fewer highway onramps, sidewalk improvements, better traffic flow, etc). I commute through here on bicycle almost every day and it's no fun/is pretty unsafe. There are roads in bigger cities that carry a lot more traffic than Congress Street while also being people-friendly.
 
Some mixed news in today's PPH article:


Thompson's Point project cut back as start of work nears

The concert hall is eliminated and the sports complex and parking garage are delayed as Portland developers refine their $100 million vision.

PORTLAND – Developers are scaling back an ambitious $100 million project on Thompson's Point, trading Class A office space for the preservation of an old brick building and delaying plans for a sports arena.

Read more

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Wow that new pic looks sad and depleted. Good news is they have tenants lined up and obviously one of them is WEX. I'm surpised the hotel is still a go. With all the hotels downtown, why would somebody want to stay there? Also it's so far down. Maybe it's more watery scenic than I think at that end. I would assume it's just loud planes and views of cars though.

Bummed out about no arena but maybe getting the rest of it started will jumpstart it.
 
Agreed on being mixed news...some good, some bad. The large office building that was supposed to be part of Phase 2 is now part of Phase 1 = good news. The arena being delayed = bad news. Replacing the smaller office building of Phase 1 with rehabbing an historic structure = good news (at least to me). I'm indifferent on the loss of the concert space, which really isn't new news. I don't think the area can support another large theater anyway.
 
Sculpture parks!!!!!.........what a joke.:rolleyes:

Should have built an aquarium on that penninsla.........could have been a really cool iconic design and great location for something like that.........then a hotel/restaurant would have made more sense.
 

Close...a school for those wishing to join Cirque Du Soleil:

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Modern-circus-school-could-open-in-2015.html

I wonder who the two potential tenants are for the new office building now that WEX has pulled the plug on expansion/moving plans.
 
Nice to see Thompson's Point in the news again. The Circus Conservatory of America sounds like an interesting tenant, curious to hear what other companies are looking at office space here.

It's still worth a visit to Thompson's Point if you feel like doing some exploring before it gets its extreme makeover. A Portland Trails trail loops around the point so the whole area is open to the public.

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more news about Thompson's Point.....residential buildings in the mix now....



In this 2011 file photo, Thompson's Point in Portland. The latest version of a $100 million mixed-use project on Thompson's Point will require changes to an agreement that would have returned as much as $32 million in property taxes to the developer, according to the city's economic development director.
Residences proposed for Thompson's Point

PORTLAND – The latest version of a $100 million mixed-use project on Thompson's Point will require changes to an agreement that would have returned as much as $32 million in property taxes to the developer, according to the city's economic development director.
On Thursday, a college-level circus conservatory announced it would take up residence in an existing building on the 28-acre former industrial site. Now, developers say they plan to add residences to the development -- which will require additional approvals from the city.
Developer Chris Thompson of Forefront Partners I said he is looking to build a mix of residential units on the point, including student housing, live-work spaces and market-rate units. He also plans to renovate two brick buildings that were originally going to be demolished.
One building is a 33,000-square-foot facility that is expected to become the home of the Circus Conservatory of America, which intends to offer bachelors of fine arts degrees in circus arts. The other is a 24,000-square-foot building that could become a "creative cluster" of uses, Thompson said.
The changes are possible now that Suburban Propane is expected to move off the point, freeing 2.5 acres for an event center and parking garage near the railroad tracks.
"We're redrawing the plan to make the most of that site and put the event center and the garage where they're meant to be," Thompson said. "That opens up some opportunities to make this more of a creative, dynamic neighborhood, and we're pretty excited about that."
The amendments to the tax break -- or tax-increment financing -- agreement will likely be taken up by the City Council's Housing and Community Development Committee when revised plans are submitted to the city's Planning Department, Economic Development Director Greg Mitchell said Thursday.
"Some refinement discussions need to occur," he said.
Thompson expects to file a master plan reflecting the changes within a month or so. He is also seeking to change the terms of a TIF agreement with the city to include the 2.5 acre parcel and renovation of the brick building.
The Forefront at Thompson's Point has evolved several times since it was first introduced with great fanfare in 2011.
When developers were seeking the tax break from the council in 2011, they showed plans for a 48,000-square-foot convention center that would also serve as a 3,500-seat arena for the Maine Red Claws. It would have been attached to a hotel on one side, and on the other to a music hall that would seat between 1,000 and 2,000 people.
In all, 558,000 square feet of office space, a hotel, a restaurant and event space were envisioned originally, but residential uses were not discussed at the time.
Now two residential buildings are being proposed on the tip of the point along the Fore River, and in June city planners approved a 113,000-square-foot reduction in the development plan.
Councilors contacted Friday were hesitant to judge the project's evolution before new plans had been submitted to the city.
"In general, we need to anticipate changes, welcome and unwelcome, when involving ourselves in economic development agreements," said City Councilor Kevin Donoghue, who sits on the Housing and Community Development Committee.
Donoghue said in an email he was initially concerned about the tax break because of the amount of office space in the original plan. He believes the decision to reduce the office space and move the event center next to the Portland Transportation Center and train tracks, where Amtrak and bus passengers could easily enter the facility, are welcome changes.
City Councilor John Anton said he was intrigued by the introduction of residential uses on the site.
"Given the proximity to the transportation center, having residential uses right there is a plus," said Anton, who chairs the Finance Committee.
Councilor Cheryl Leeman, who served on the community development committee when the tax break was negotiated, said the project seems to have undergone "tremendous changes" based on press reports. Her comfort level with changing the tax deal would depend on the final plan submitted to the city, she said.
"Any major deviation from the original plan approved by the council would require another look," Leeman said.
According to the 2011 tax agreement, developers would receive up to a $32 million rebate of property taxes over 30 years if they followed a specific development program. They would not begin receiving the rebates until the have added $5 million to the assessed value of the site.
Only certain parts of the project were eligible for the break, and now that the development has changed extensively, the city will have to reconsider the terms.
Developers also received city approval for a temporary surface parking lot, which would allow them to delay the construction of a $28 million parking garage until the event center can be built.
Construction of the event center cannot take place until Suburban Propane is relocated. It is unclear when that will happen.
Mitchell said discussions about possibly locating the company to a city-owned parcel on Riverside Street are ongoing. That land is also being eyed for a consolidated public works facility, he said, so staff is working to ensure there is enough room for both.
The project is progressing more slowly than originally envisioned. Developers only closed on the $7.4 million sale in June. Construction was expected to begin in 2012, and the Red Claws expected to begin playing home games at the event center in 2013, but a shovel has yet to be placed in the ground.
The timing of the project came up several times at a circus conservatory press conference Thursday.
Mayor Michael Brennan thanked Thompson for his "patience and perseverance."
Paul Andersen, president of Androscoggin Bank, which is financing part of the project, also sounded optimistic.
"Every type of development starts the same way. It starts with one project," Andersen said at Thursday's press event. "When one project happens, other projects happen -- that's why this is so significant."
Mitchell agreed, saying the circus conservatory's announcement signaled a major milestone.
"From my perspective, this is evidence of the start of the project," he said.
 

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