Tremont/Melnea Cass Planned Hotel

Josie Gruner

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Wondering if anyone has information or suggestions where I can find more information about a planned Marriott Brand, extended stay hotel located roughly at the intersection of Melnea Cass and Tremont Street near the police station.

Thanks!
 
I hate always being cynical, but I'm curious as to whether anything nefarious was going on here.

1) Walmart wants to open supermarket near Dudley
2) Mayor says "No Walmart", "Dudley already has a supermarket" (Tropical Foods)
3) Tropical Foods wins bid to expand market into new building

Ta-da!
 
Underhanded, maybe-- but nefariousness is in the eye of the beholder. Given a choice between an Arkansas-based business using their corporate development assembly-line to rubber stamp a building into Dudley Square on the one hand, or a chance to give a local business some leverage while simultaneously filling some crucial urban holes with new buildings designed, built and owned by Bostonians, I for one am quite happy with a little provincialism in this case

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Is that Millenium Park's bean up on the roof?!

And that box the bean is plopped on already looks like it's aged about 45 years.
 
Is that Millenium Park's bean up on the roof?!

And that box the bean is plopped on already looks like it's aged about 45 years.

Yeah, that's definitely Anish Kapoor's Cloud Gate turned upside down.

Also of note is that these slides are not new by any means. They have been on the web forever.
 
those superimposed people scare me...

didnt they already build a similar looking hotel also on the border of the ghetto? The Hampton Inn? How is that doing for business?
 
Expanding a popular local grocer to keep Wal-Mart away sounds like a double win for the city and the neighborhood.
 
I want to like it and I want it to be good but I have this sinking feeling what will actually get built will look ticky-tacky.
 
They did a good job with the Hampton Inn...pretty elegant for low budget... from that angle at least

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Expanding a popular local grocer to keep Wal-Mart away sounds like a double win for the city and the neighborhood.

Ron -- Walmart for all its faults is probably the best help for the financial state of the public that can be had at 0 cost to the tax payers

Not only does Walmart offer low priced products -- its presence puts a cap on the prices other retailers can charge for comparable and slightly higher quality merchandise

While I've only shopped in a Walmart in the single digit occasions -- I'd love to see one near enough in the Northwest suburbs to put some pricing pressure on the other retailers
 
Ron -- Walmart for all its faults is probably the best help for the financial state of the public that can be had at 0 cost to the tax payers

Not only does Walmart offer low priced products -- its presence puts a cap on the prices other retailers can charge for comparable and slightly higher quality merchandise

While I've only shopped in a Walmart in the single digit occasions -- I'd love to see one near enough in the Northwest suburbs to put some pricing pressure on the other retailers

The pro- and anti-Walmart discussion has been well document all across the internet, and regarding Boston specifically, on Universal Hub.

Maybe we can keep it from this board?
 
I for one am quite happy with a little provincialism in this case

But if that "provincialism" results in laws/rules/regulations being construed in a certain way for some and in different ways for others, what you have is a breakdown in the rule of law.

Sure, you might be happy with the results this time, but what happens when the same bad precedent (treat strangers/out-of-towners poorly, treat friends well, and use the language of the law to mask what's really going on) is used to achieve an end you don't like? Whoops! Probably should've supported equal treatment under the law for all from the start, no?

Writing this from Russia, you can see the extreme of a place without the rule of law. But Menino's Boston is also a case study in the absence of the rule of law. With the legalistic intricacies and superficial strictness of the zoning codes, it's all the easier for them to end up meaning zilch and for all real estate development to be 100% dependent on what Menino himself decides to do case-by-case (and thereby defeating the entire purpose of having an objective, broadly applicable law).

At the end of the day, this is going to lead to one person making decisions for the rest of us. If you think your opinion and intelligence are that much inferior to his, I guess this is a great outcome. But I don't feel that I am enough of a peon, or Menino enough of a god, for that outcome to be a good thing.
 
The pro- and anti-Walmart discussion has been well document all across the internet, and regarding Boston specifically, on Universal Hub.

Maybe we can keep it from this board?

BBF -- perhaps some facts related to Walmart -- " out of towner from Arkansas "

from the wiki article:

Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. (NYSE: WMT), branded as Walmart since 2008 and Wal-Mart before then, is an American multinational retailer corporation that runs chains of large discount department stores and warehouse stores. The company is the world's 18th largest public corporation, according to the Forbes Global 2000 list, and the largest public corporation when ranked by revenue. It is also the biggest private employer in the world with over 2 million employees, and is the largest retailer in the world.

The company is controlled by the Walton family which owns 48% stake in Wal-Mart.
The company was founded by Sam Walton in 1962, incorporated on October 31, 1969, and publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange in 1972. It is headquartered in Bentonville, Arkansas. Walmart is also the largest grocery retailer in the United States. In 2009, it generated 51% of its US$258 billion sales in the U.S. from grocery business.[4] It also owns and operates the Sam's Club retail warehouses in North America.

Walmart has 8,500 stores in 15 countries, under 55 different names

But the bottom line is that while the Walton family still owns 48% - it is a publicly traded corporation whose stock is probably in the portfolios of many many readers of ArchBoston: pension funds, 401k's, IR's and even the mutual funds you might have bought last week
 

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