Wentworth Dorm | 630 Huntington Ave | Fenway

TomOfBoston said:
As a STEM school Wentworth is well positioned to survive. As opposed to a school that trained pre-school teachers and social workers e.g. Wheelock.
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Still have to adjust for an expected 20% decrease in enrollment in 6 years.
 
stefal said:
Still have to adjust for an expected 20% decrease in enrollment in 6 years.
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Stefal -- No -- Tom is on track -- all of the hand wringing applies to useless BA degrees offered by the huge number of small liberal arts schools

Current demand for BS and MS degrees in bio and related, as well as Computer Science and Engineering*1*2 at all levels is large and growing. Note that all Boston Area STEM-focused or STEM-capable places draw from a much larger footprint than just the Northeast or even the US.

I'm sure that Wentworth like BU, Northeastern, UMass Lowell are all expecting to see increases in student enrollment.

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Not saying that the MIT student body is typical -- but more than 40% of MIT undergraduate students are now trying to major in Computing-related fields

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from
news.mit.edu

A college for the computing age

Daniel Huttenlocher, the inaugural dean of the MIT Schwarzman College of Computing, has been working on designing the initial organizational structure of the college. The structure has been developed through an iterative process yielding a 26-page document.
news.mit.edu news.mit.edu

A college for the computing age
With the initial organizational structure in place, the MIT Schwarzman College of Computing moves forward with implementation.

Terri Park | MIT Schwarzman College of Computing
February 4, 2020
Advancing computing

Despite the unprecedented growth in computing, there remains substantial unmet demand for expertise. In academia, colleges and universities worldwide are faced with oversubscribed programs in computer science and the constant need to keep up with rapidly changing materials at both the graduate and undergraduate level.

According to Huttenlocher, the computing fields are evolving at a pace today that is beyond the capabilities of current academic structures to handle. “As academics, we pride ourselves on being generators of new knowledge, but academic institutions themselves don’t change that quickly. The rise of AI is probably the biggest recent example of that, along with the fact that about 40 percent of MIT undergraduates are majoring in computer science, where we have 7 percent of the MIT faculty.”
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whighlander said:
Stefal -- No -- Tom is on
I'm sure that Wentworth like BU, Northeastern, UMass Lowell are all expecting to see increases in student enrollment.
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Wentworth literally says the opposite in their own presentation, the one I posted a screenshot of. They expect up to 20% decrease by 2026, and they don't offer any BA's.

I can also say with good authority that at least one of UMass Lowell's engineering departments is forecasting future enrollment to drop.

Its based off the decrease in population of children after Baby Boomers' children, the last of whom are graduating now, not based off whether students are more aware BA's have less ROI than BS degrees.
 
stefal said:
Wentworth literally says the opposite in their own presentation, the one I posted a screenshot of. They expect up to 20% decrease by 2026, and they don't offer any BA's.

I can also say with good authority that at least one of UMass Lowell's engineering departments is forecasting future enrollment to drop.

Its based off the decrease in population of children after Baby Boomers' children, the last of whom are graduating now, not based off whether students are more aware BA's have less ROI than BS degrees.
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Stefal -- Like I indicated it's not necessarily all STEM -- there is a definite hierarchy of the topics with Bio and Computing leading now in the future [next decade] there will likely be a boom in nano and materials

But once again the key to the fate of the local Tech-centric U's [or at least better rated] -- they are places drawing from a pool not limited to who is within driving distance. The real reason that Massachusetts hasn't joined the other Northeastern States in not growing -- is due to the students who come here from around the country and even around the rest of the world. Some of them stay here after their degrees for at least a few years to work in our Bio and Tech companies.
 
stefal said:
Wentworth literally says the opposite in their own presentation, the one I posted a screenshot of. They expect up to 20% decrease by 2026, and they don't offer any BA's.

I can also say with good authority that at least one of UMass Lowell's engineering departments is forecasting future enrollment to drop.

Its based off the decrease in population of children after Baby Boomers' children, the last of whom are graduating now, not based off whether students are more aware BA's have less ROI than BS degrees.
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That attachment you posted is referring to enrolment overall in the Northeast, not Wentworth. As Northeastern and BU become even more selective Wentworth will continue to benefit from students who didn't make the cut there.
 
Massachusetts population growth over the past decade was fueled by immigration; without immigration, Massachusetts' population would essentially have been flat. (Foreign students, per se, are not 'immigrants'

MASSACHUSETTS Like other Northeastern states, Massachusetts depends on immigration to sustain growth. But unlike its neighbors — immigration is down by a third in New York — Massachusetts sustained international growth through most of the decade.

The difference lies in the state’s thriving university and tech sector, which brings in a larger proportion of high-skilled immigrants. Boston also had an influx of millennials during the decade, which helped offset the flow of older residents to other states.

Massachusetts alone accounted for more than half of the population growth in the Northeast during the decade.

“The growth that we saw with the millennial wave, can that be sustained?” said Susan Strate, a demographer at the UMass Donahue Institute. “Coupled with a decrease in the international migration that made us strong growers in recent years, it’s a pivotal point in Massachusetts.”
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www.nytimes.com

Why Your State Is Growing or Stalling or Shrinking (Published 2020)

As U.S. population growth slows, more states depend on immigration.
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The pressure on maintaining current enrollment going forward is driven by the drop in birth rates; this drop is most acute in the Northeast and much of the Midwest, and is appreciably less in the South and West. The greatest impact is likely to be felt by private colleges and universities in the Northeast, with a regional enrollment.

U.S. births by year
2006 4.27M
2007 4.32M
2008 4.25M Beginning of Great Recession
2009 4.13M Great Recession
2010 4..0M Great Recession
2011 3.95M
2014 3.99M Peak post Great Recession year
2018 3.79M
2019 is lower than 2018, perhaps to about 3.65M?

Without a significant increase in immigration rates, there will be another enrollment bust starting in 2036-37
 
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Had forgotten how 500 Huntington is mostly lab/office space. Will be a nice addition to the corridor here.
 
As a recent Wentworth architecture graduate, it looks like 630 Huntington Ave is being put on hold for the new Sweeney Field to be completed next year and 500 Huntington Ave should be the next project in line.
Also, a revised master plan with Perkins and Will should be on the way.

Looking at the way these forums work, maybe we should create a new thread for Sweeney Field/500 Huntington Ave?
 
Lightning43 said:
As a recent Wentworth architecture graduate, it looks like 630 Huntington Ave is being put on hold for the new Sweeney Field to be completed next year and 500 Huntington Ave should be the next project in line.
Also, a revised master plan with Perkins and Will should be on the way.

Looking at the way these forums work, maybe we should create a new thread for Sweeney Field/500 Huntington Ave?
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Already a thread running for 500 huntington. https://archboston.com/community/th...ences-complex-500-huntington-ave-fenway.6648/
 
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