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Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District

Theres a couple new ones, a couple similar but differing angles, and a bunch of old ones, screen grabbed em all anyways for something to look at in one place.











































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Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District

When 115 Winthrop finally came to order just before 9, there were just enough Commission members to continue. One BCDC member expressed skepticism that the Great Hall would come to be used to any particular extent by the public – or if the developer's intentions were genuine about people coming to visit their 'private building.' Ouch. Others were mocking some of the proposed uses of Great Hall including ice skating, (or was it 'curling'). i can't recall. Another BCDC member seemed skeptical if not outwardly hostile to the 'archy' design, but recognized it's structural placement.

–Except, that i thought Joe mentioned in December the arches aren't load bearing, but merely decoratations.

i imagine they will put up seasonal glass walls to fight the cold, dreary or blizzardy type days.
 
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It does look exactly the same, Java King.

My problem with the atrium space has always been that it doesn't seem to really belong, design-wise. The exterior and angles of the rest of the building just dead-end around it.
 
Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District

After flipping through the presentation, I have a ton more respect for this project. Hurry up and build it, already.
 
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Come on elites! build a tower I will never be able to step foot in!!! I wanna be priced out of more stuff
 
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I think the great hall is like a mini cambridgeside galleria with a tower on top - a narrow three-level mall. Not that there's anything wrong with that. And it's also like the Winter Garden next door in that it's reasonable to very skeptical of 'auditorium' type programming ever really coming to fruition.

But that's ok because it's still will work great as a short 'arcade' type pedestrian street connection within the downtown maze.

Agreed the presentation is very impressive
 
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Suffolk 83 said:
Come on elites! build a tower I will never be able to step foot in!!! I wanna be priced out of more stuff
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1. This tower creates a nice public space that wasn't there before. Unless the owner has a restraining order against you, even Suffolk 83 would be allowed in this building.

2. What kind of prices do you expect for downtown Boston? Is it supposed to be priced the same as Lawrence? I never understand these arguments. Like, wow, the most desirable areas cost more to live in! Mind blown! (and yes, this will be desirable, it's literally right in the center of everything)
 
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DZH22 said:
1. This tower creates a nice public space that wasn't there before. Unless the owner has a restraining order against you, even Suffolk 83 would be allowed in this building.
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Oh, So just like the pregnant building lobby?

No wait, that has been closed to the public now.

So more like the Hancock observation deck?

Wait...
 
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Beacon Hill, Back Bay, Bay Village, etc is a far worse theft of land – as there are no big towers.
The anti-communists that live in MP are each, occupying but a few small tiles of Boston's exclusive core.


 
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Hey DZH, how tall will this building be? Will that be to the roofline? What about mechanicals? Is that occupied floors? What are about the window washing unit? How about when its extended? What does the FAA have it all? What about if its penis is erect? Does that count? How about if a window cleaner is on the window washing unit when its being deployed above the building? Fuuuuck off
 
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oh settle down
 
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Suffolk 83 said:
Hey DZH, how tall will this building be? Will that be to the roofline? What about mechanicals? Is that occupied floors? What are about the window washing unit? How about when its extended? What does the FAA have it all? What about if its penis is erect? Does that count? How about if a window cleaner is on the window washing unit when its being deployed above the building? Fuuuuck off
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Caught for posterity, jackass. I'm going to answer every question.

We don't know how tall it will be yet because it isn't finalized.

It will likely be to the roofline.

The mechanicals will likely be below the roofline.

Occupied floors will be below that.

The window washing unit doesn't count in official height which is one reason for the ambiguity surrounding the FAA site.

Don't know about the unit or the extension of it.

"What does the FAA have it all?" What does this even mean?

Buildings don't have penises so it doesn't count, and if you were standing on top fully erect it still wouldn't count.

Window cleaners don't count.

I asked you to clarify your points, and you responded with a hissy fit. This seems to be your typical behavior lately. "Waaaaahhhhh, I can't afford it, and it isn't being given to me!!! Sniffle sniffle." Boo hoo for you.
 
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It still blows my mind that there are people against building a tall building, nestled in the middle of other tall buildings, in the goddam financial district of this city.

1) the middle of the financial district is not where middle class family housing was ever going to get built anyway - not under any administration, not in any of our lifetimes. Why is that remotely part of this discussion? I am 1000% for bringing families closer to urban core, reducing car traffic, making the city more affordable for families - i just don't get how this project has anything to do with that?? You do that in the underdeveloped land a few notches outbound of the core right along the transit lines (the dot ave mega proposals are a great start, as are places such as around oak grove, etc).

2) Whether height makes a city more beautiful or not is a personal opinion thing and there is a spectrum. Boston has great texture; quaint old world neighborhoods that should never be tall, others that should. Wtf is about this all height is bad / all height is good BS on this forum? It's entirely contextual.
 
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Winston Smith moments before entering the Ministry of Love for mind overhaul and thought retraining said:
We were instructed never to think about the Downtown skyline being tall or short, or stubby, or red, or beige colored, or beautiful or ugly in its appearance... We were instructed never to form an opinion about the ratio of fat, ugly turd towers that must have formed the 500' wall that blocked off the Sea passage to Eurasia from so long ago....

No one dared go there; because in the heart of it all was the 1 Beacon Street: a.k.a. the Ministry of Love. ....it was hard not think these terrible thoughts.... because the biggest of the ugly turd towers stood there like a force of nature staring down upon the Proletariat ready to unleash its anger and vengeance.

And no one dared speak of it....
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Still gives me chills. Of course, it was required reading back then. (i'd heard the MTA banned it some years later).....


 
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With regard to the "why are people talking about height so much" - odurandina speaks to it obliquely, and I think it's been covered amply all over the place here. For a city/metro area of its size, Boston has a distinct lack of height in comparison to other cities/metro areas, and what we do have in height is often of the boxy, boring turd variety.

And even then, we are constantly fighting a pitched battle against the NIMBY/neighborhood groups, whose handiwork results in arbitrary reductions of height/density at a time when demand for housing is extreme.
 
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Coyote137 said:
With regard to the "why are people talking about height so much" - odurandina speaks to it obliquely, and I think it's been covered amply all over the place here. For a city/metro area of its size, Boston has a distinct lack of height in comparison to other cities/metro areas, and what we do have in height is often of the boxy, boring turd variety.

And even then, we are constantly fighting a pitched battle against the NIMBY/neighborhood groups, whose handiwork results in arbitrary reductions of height/density at a time when demand for housing is extreme.
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I understand and agree, but I guess I just don't get why its so polarizing on this forum.

Folks, not everyone on here who views the height question differently than you is evil.
 
Re: 115 Winthrop Square | Financial District

According to the drawing, it is even taller than the MT & the Pregnant Bldg. Hah!
 
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