[ARCHIVED] Harbor Garage Redevelopment | 70 East India Row | Waterfront | Downtown

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^it's more like standing up to a bully that is being violent to you.
 
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nico said:
^it's more like standing up to a bully that is being violent to you.
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No, it's like beating yourself up so the bully doesn't have to. Thus, you've successfully 'stopped the bully'. Congrats!
 
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^Depends on who wins
 
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it's like keeping your 86 honda civic hatch, when you have been given permission by your parents to buy a 2010 Audi a4 but what you really want is a Ferrari.

ok this analogy is just ridiculous.
 
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It's like raaaaain on your wedding day!
 
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joebos said:
I had this same thought. He should paint each floor a separate color, or have it be alternating rows of dark brown and beige. And maybe apply some murals on top of that color scheme, like huge flowers.

Someone would probably like it, though, and we'd be stuck looking at it forever.
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It would quickly be seen as another ho chi minh on a water tank, so yes, we'd never get rid of it.
 
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statler said:
But the Boston Common Parking Garage, which is the Convention Authority controls (for whatever reason), and is seeking to expand is within parking cap.
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You're right, I completely missed that.

I was thinking of the proposed expansion of the convention center.
 
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And to complete the parking cap issue, the cap in East Boston is related to revenue-generating parking operated by Massport, or private companies. I don't believe it has any impact on residential districts.
 
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Chiofaro isn't making his case very well with this website. Just look at the banner:

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Although the kinky bikini mudwrestling in the fountain (wtf) is alluring, and the post-apocalyptic brown sky is intriguing (wtf) the street level interaction (W...T...F...) has all the charms of a prison, or self-storage building, or big dig tunnel vent... oh my god...

Shouldn't these renders be emphasizing pedestrian amenities, views of the water from the Greenway, etc? Based on the looks of this, I'm sad to say I prefer the existing garage - which at least has a Dunkin.

Awful, awful, awful. He's his own worst enemy with these images.
 
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I like it except for the blank wall of the first floor along the Greenway... Don't know what's up with that.

But he already had me with women in bikinis.
 
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I agree with you Shepard, but the thing is, it is tall, therefore people will defend it to the death, even if the base had spinning razor blades installed that sliced pedestrians as walked by.
 
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The towers would present a great opportunity to activate the Greenway along a barren stretch.

That being said, I don't understand what anyone can like about this street-level design concept. All the pedestrians shown seem to be actively avoiding the building as they rightfully would in real life.

(The marathoners are running away in terror.)

EDIT: AAAARGHHHHH!

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Please write Chiofaro asking him to ditch this design concept, for his own sake.
 
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Awesome for anyone looking for a sheltered and deserted wall to sleep against at night.
 
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I think he's trying [too hard] to draw people into the middle/sides and to the waterfront.
 
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Check this out:

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Ground floor view of promenade. The proposed enclosed promenade will be continuously open to the public as a destination in the heart of the Greenway. It will provide a place to shop, eat and socialize, escape from the cold in the winter, or find respite from the heat in the summer. Rendering by Kohn Pederson Fox
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Essentially, the design concept is a mall.

Don, please, you can do better. This isn't helping your cause. If all your design firm can do with this amazing waterfront development opportunity is come up with Natick-by-the-Sea then you need to fire them.
 
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Rifleman, just because the exterior looks like the colonies on Mars that you may have seen in illustrated sci-fi magazines when you were a kid does not make it awesome.

Welcome to the street level of another internally-oriented downtown mall: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...=bwtuBfUp0FKmAEceN1LJkA&cbp=12,178.28,,0,0.08

Now explain to me how a mall, with the focus of activity being located 100% away from street level, will have a chance in hell of "activating the Greenway" or "opening up the city to the harbor."
 
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Shepard said:
Rifleman, just because the exterior looks like the colonies on Mars that you may have seen in illustrated sci-fi magazines when you were a kid does not make it awesome.

Welcome to the street level of another internally-oriented downtown mall: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...=bwtuBfUp0FKmAEceN1LJkA&cbp=12,178.28,,0,0.08

Now explain to me how a mall, with the focus of activity being located 100% away from street level, will have a chance in hell of "activating the Greenway" or "opening up the city to the harbor."
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Shepard, I personally think the development will activate the Greenway in this location. It's being built on the edge towards the Greenway which most of the developments in the area were built to avoid. We will have some people that like the design and others that don't like it. Sci Fi movie on Mars, it's not that outragerous but it's nice to dream.

No matter if you like the design or not. I support this sight for alot higher development than 200 Ft. I think you need to build something outstanding to get all eyes off the Harbor Towers. 650ft and 530Ft are perfect for this sight.
 
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