Potential Soccer Stadium | Portland peninsula

I'm an occasional visitor, and definitely a Portland booster, but I don't know the city all that well. Maybe there is some obvious reason why it wouldn't work, but just from looking at the map, I think the underutilized container lot on Commercial Street would be a great location. It is an easy walk to the the vibrant harbor area, and might be less subject to NIMBY complaints.

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Yes, that is a good argument. But there is something about a dynamic sports team experience within a city center. Imagine Fenway Park moved to Newton or Medford. Fenway Park has virtually no parking. That's what makes it so much fun--you have to stick around for a while before and after and don't mind it. Also, it is or had been like this with Cross Insurance Arena/Civic Center. In the 80s and 90s it was the heartbeat for entertainment in Portland. After a concert or game, woo-hoo, it was time to hang in the Old Port. Today, it's lack of a contemporary interior re-configuring has resulted in a rather blah experience. And no matter what you do at the mall, you need to get back in your car to go somewhere more desirable to eat or drink after. For a soccer stadium location across the harbor, it would be fun with all the ferry boat traffic to and from Portland's waterfront (and Roux). You don't have to build massive parking lots, except for maybe one big garage. The mall area would really only work if there were a massive amount of housing built. This way, new food and drink businesses would appear. Otherwise, there is no reason to hang around. The older design idea shopping mall is kind of dead or dying. I see this all over the country now. Something updated like The Downs could work. The Maine Mariners are building their new practice facility here. There is a lot of land, for sure, and the 95 exit and Route 1 are close. Allagash's tasting room is nice, but other than that, nothing too fun, or yet.

I appreciate the vision, and in a perfect world with unlimited budgets, a downtown or near downtown stadium would be incredible. But when I look at actual development projects, I prefer to stay grounded in the financial and logistical realities of the current market.

Here is why that idealism doesn't apply to a USL League One team in 2026:

(1) Unless a billionaire inexplicably decides to make Portland their passion project (and we are not getting a "sugar daddy like Bob Kraft"), Hearts of Pine does not have the capital for a massive urban infill project.
  • People forget that most dirt dug up in Portland can't just be put back; it has to be trucked out of state to specialized facilities at enormous cost (millions of dollars).
  • The Mall parking lot is flat, paved, and comparatively cheap. It kills the project to spend the entire budget on land acquisition and remediation before you've even poured a footing.
(2) To be financially viable, a modern stadium cannot just host 15-20 soccer games a year. It needs concert revenue.
  • Fitzpatrick or Near Downtown: You have a literal zero percent chance of getting permits for regular concerts here. Look at the Back Cove Festival - a huge success with minimal impact, yet NIMBYs are already mobilizing to kill it next year. Opposition would be immediate and legally paralyzing.
  • The Downs: Scarborough residents are already in a fury over The Downs. They aren't approving a concert venue.
  • The Mall: You can host a loud concert on a Tuesday night, and no one will complain because the neighbors are parking lots and commercial buildings. That revenue stream is essential for survival.
(3) We need to be honest about who lives where. The cost of living is pushing the working class outward. To fill 5,000+ seats, we need the fans from Standish, Buxton, Gorham, Windham, Westbrook and beyond.
  • A family coming from Hollis is not taking a bus or riding a bike to the game. They aren't carpooling.
  • I hear this constantly from hockey parents in the western suburbs. They skip Mariners games even when they have tickets available for a discount because they hate driving downtown and dealing with parking (even though parking exists). If you make the logistics a hassle, you alienate the suburban base you desperately need.
(4) You mentioned the mall needs mixed-use to survive. I agree. That is exactly why the stadium belongs there. The stadium is the anchor tenant that makes building housing and bars in that sea of asphalt viable.
  • The Mall is owned by Brookfield, a developer that specializes in turning retail centers into mixed-use districts (look at their projects in Atlanta or Honolulu). They have the capital and the playbook to execute this.
  • You build the stadium to fix the neighborhood. That way, the venue is established first. The residents who eventually move into the new housing know what they are getting into, which cuts the NIMBY arguments off at the knees.

The reality is that we can't ignore reality. You have to confront the economics and the political environment. You can't just bully a development into existence without consequence, and you certainly can't build one on "vibes" alone.
 
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I'm an occasional visitor, and definitely a Portland booster, but I don't know the city all that well. Maybe there is some obvious reason why it wouldn't work, but just from looking at the map, I think the underutilized container lot on Commercial Street would be a great location. It is an easy walk to the the vibrant harbor area, and might be less subject to NIMBY complaints.

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That satellite photo is deceiving. The container facility is now a bustling hub for Eimskip. They added two new cranes last year, and Eimskip is expanding container service, especially now that the cold storage warehouse is operational next door.

This view from Google Maps shows just how many containers were being store there in December 2024. It has only continued to get busier from there.

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If you think building a new stadium in an isolated location because it's easier to find parking there, and you won't bother any neighbors, I recommend investing in The Maine Guides circa 1983:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_Guides

Oh please. The Mall area is hardly a mosquito-ridden swamp in OOB. Nothing could ever have been built around that stadium. There is established infrastructure to make the Mall a feasible location, and it is significantly closer to the population core of Greater Portland. It's also accessible by Metro/SoPo Bus.
 
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The Guides started out with a bit of subterfuge: the owner used the summer population of OOB to meet the AAA requirements of the time, despite there being no evidence of people who were there for the beach wanting to come halfway back to the Turnpike to go to games. Then, shortly after they opened, the league radically raised the minimum specs for seating, club amenities, etc. (no more having players walking through the crowd to get to a clubhouse in a double-wide), which they had no way to meet. Plus the mosquitoes. The Ballpark was, and is, a beautiful place for a game, but it's horrible to try to make money at.
 
Day games at the Ballpark were fine....night games were malaria central.

I saw a lot of concerts there as well....mosquitoes must have had a field day......fun stuff though.
 
I appreciate the vision, and in a perfect world with unlimited budgets, a downtown or near downtown stadium would be incredible. But when I look at actual development projects, I prefer to stay grounded in the financial and logistical realities of the current market.

Here is why that idealism doesn't apply to a USL League One team in 2026:

(1) Unless a billionaire inexplicably decides to make Portland their passion project (and we are not getting a "sugar daddy like Bob Kraft"), Hearts of Pine does not have the capital for a massive urban infill project.
  • People forget that most dirt dug up in Portland can't just be put back; it has to be trucked out of state to specialized facilities at enormous cost (millions of dollars).
  • The Mall parking lot is flat, paved, and comparatively cheap. It kills the project to spend the entire budget on land acquisition and remediation before you've even poured a footing.
(2) To be financially viable, a modern stadium cannot just host 15-20 soccer games a year. It needs concert revenue.
  • Fitzpatrick or Near Downtown: You have a literal zero percent chance of getting permits for regular concerts here. Look at the Back Cove Festival - a huge success with minimal impact, yet NIMBYs are already mobilizing to kill it next year. Opposition would be immediate and legally paralyzing.
  • The Downs: Scarborough residents are already in a fury over The Downs. They aren't approving a concert venue.
  • The Mall: You can host a loud concert on a Tuesday night, and no one will complain because the neighbors are parking lots and commercial buildings. That revenue stream is essential for survival.
(3) We need to be honest about who lives where. The cost of living is pushing the working class outward. To fill 5,000+ seats, we need the fans from Standish, Buxton, Gorham, Windham, Westbrook and beyond.
  • A family coming from Hollis is not taking a bus or riding a bike to the game. They aren't carpooling.
  • I hear this constantly from hockey parents in the western suburbs. They skip Mariners games even when they have tickets available for a discount because they hate driving downtown and dealing with parking (even though parking exists). If you make the logistics a hassle, you alienate the suburban base you desperately need.
(4) You mentioned the mall needs mixed-use to survive. I agree. That is exactly why the stadium belongs there. The stadium is the anchor tenant that makes building housing and bars in that sea of asphalt viable.
  • The Mall is owned by Brookfield, a developer that specializes in turning retail centers into mixed-use districts (look at their projects in Atlanta or Honolulu). They have the capital and the playbook to execute this.
  • You build the stadium to fix the neighborhood. That way, the venue is established first. The residents who eventually move into the new housing know what they are getting into, which cuts the NIMBY arguments off at the knees.

The reality is that we can't ignore reality. You have to confront the economics and the political environment. You can't just bully a development into existence without consequence, and you certainly can't build one on "vibes" alone.
Today and for the not-too-distant future, it's a new reality for Portland. Lewiston resident David Roux has given or the effect is, $500 million to build and grow a grad school on an industrial piece of land in Portland (like Kraft is doing in Everett). Scott M. Black is from Portland. He's a Wall Street billionaire and loans expensive art to the PMA. Maybe it's because I work with high-net-worth individuals that I see and understand what they are capable of. Portland is a mere 90 minutes from Boston, an easy jaunt up and a pleasurable place for a second home. Boston is the de facto capital of the world when combining education, medicine and pharma, tech, and now entertainment (Encore, Amazon, Lego, Hasbro, sports). Follow the Boston arch blog and read it. The PMA will probably expand its scope too. They should. The current expansion iteration design will probably be scrapped due to its silly nature (wood and not a noteworthy or artistic structure). You have to think past the typical older Mainers "from afar" whining about parking, etc. New residents have moved here, and more are coming with new ideas to make up for the negative birth rate of 1.5 or less per birthing couple. More than half the people looking to buy homes in Maine now are from out-of-state (says my experienced realtor). Are they going to complain about parking? And a Maine Mall build would not be a dynamic offering as much as it would a feel of more of the same. But it would work, or for a while, like the "new" CIA did.
 
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So I had a really interesting conversation with someone loosely affiliated with the team who mentioned there were prelim discussions about adding stands/supporting infrastructure to the Oaks side of Deering Ave. Initial plans indicate it would be costly but wouldn't require taking out many of the historic oak trees and stands would go along the southwest/southeast edges of the field. A potential benefit would be the ability to keep some of the bathrooms and other facilities on the Fitzy side, using the Deering Ave underpass to access them. It would also add another large-ish stadium available for high school tournaments and take some of the pressure to share time off the existing field. For a longer-term expansion, there would be the option to move the basketball courts and add seating to the northeast edge as well.

It sounds like it's still very preliminary discussions but could be a cool alternative to trying to relocate the track and expand Fitzy
 
Looks like a half-baked, or less than, attempt to fix a shortcoming. I've mentioned the compromising football field lines on the new turf at Fitzpatrick and understand why they had to go along with that. Soccer, youth and the pros, is a much greater demand dynamic and unifying community force than American football in Portland, especially since the latter is diminishing in participation and excludes girls and all youth. Maine is not Texas, where high school football can see 20,000 in attendance and is a de facto religious experience. Move all American styled football to the Deering H.S. field. Grow Fitzpatrick with soccer and track. And maybe concerts? The revenue will be or can become a mountain next to the soon to be gridiron ant hill. Accept change. We have no choice.
 
It's a great site for a marquee project like this, but how do you get cars in and out? Does anyone know if they got to the point of a transportation study for the proposed residential project on this site? I think that was one of the major NIMBY talking points?
Build another bridge from that point to Franklin lol
 
Build another bridge from that point to Franklin lol
Why not build a new track complex there? Then take out the track at Fitzy and add 4-5k seats. Problem solved. The first renderings seemed fine for stands to be expanded behind one of the goals. The popularity of the team could hand an upper deck on both sides.

Although a brand new soccer stadium in South Portland, on the mall property would be great. I am sure there would be push back from the Rock Row venue crowd.
 
Why not build a new track complex there? Then take out the track at Fitzy and add 4-5k seats. Problem solved. The first renderings seemed fine for stands to be expanded behind one of the goals. The popularity of the team could hand an upper deck on both sides.

Although a brand new soccer stadium in South Portland, on the mall property would be great. I am sure there would be push back from the Rock Row venue crowd.
The person I spoke to was pretty certain the team had no interest in moving off-peninsula. And the track wouldn't fit over there particularly well and it would be easier to add turf and stands to build a new stadium than to try to move the track and then expand Fitzy.
 

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