New Lansdowne St.

I meant the two level parking garages and auto repair places that follow the street edge from Arts/Fenway H.S. down.

If the Shell Station was closed and the school moved elsewhere, Ipswich St could be re aligned with Park Drive to cut out the double intersection. A gateway building on the corner, with a stretch of restaurants and housing/studio space above along Ispwich could draw people down to Lansdowne. A replacement of the current TransNational building, with housing facing Gaston Square on Boylston street, and some sort of lower level entertainment venue facing Ipswich, could eliminate the dead stretch between Jillian's and Charlesgate.

I had no idea what you were talking about until I pulled up google maps.

I didnt realize Ipswitch intersects boylston at both end, and park street crosses boylston twice in two very different places.

What the hell.
 
West Chester Park (Now Massachusetts Avenue) broke Arthur Gilman's lettering scheme and you are also forgetting Charlesgate East, West, and whatever the stretch on the original Boylston Bridge where the Bowker Overpass is now, was named. Ispwich, Jersey, and Kilmarnock originally had different names and alignments on Olmstead's plans. At some point they went from planned generic Yankee names to the finally laid out Scottish/Welsh.

Audubon Road was also renamed to Park Drive in the 1930s when Arthur Shurcliff's changes to Olmstead's Fens eliminated most of the marshland and greatly curtailed the width of the muddy river in the park. The addition of formal parkland at the cost of marshland and waterway displaced a large number of birds. I guess someone at the Audubon Society thought trashing an unofficial bird sanctuary for a formal park made it necessary to take Audubon's name off the abutting road. When a travel lane was removed in the 1980s, to add additional street parking and the road was changed to one way, it really changed the feel of the parkway. Also cause a number of really bad accidents from people forgetting the changes and driving the wrong way into oncoming traffic.

Gaston Square, Boylston Square, the Westland Entrance, Huntington Entrance, Louis Pasteur Entrance, Tremont Entrance, and probably something else I forget, we also renamed, eliminated, or obliterated for traffic control changes around Fenway since then.

/Lurker loves renting to old ladies and responsible grad students on Park Drive
 
I've noticed that the naming scheme continues as Lansdowne, Marlborough, Newbury, Peterborough, Queensberry. Was Van Ness St. supposed to begin with an O?
 
Newbury and Marlborough were former names of segments of Washington Street. When Arthur Gilman planned the Back Bay grid he adopted those names to make up for their loss on the renaming of Washington Street to make it longer.

All of the Fenway was planned with lots the size of Back Bay, that's why the original two mansions in West Fenway, corner of Jersey/Queensbury and Park, are the size they are along with developments along Hemenway/Fenway closest to Boylston Street. There are also one lot sized gaps on 'The Fenway', and by Charlesgate there are curb cuts with bluestone bollards to homes which never were built.

The development looks really haphazzard from 1900-Present with a variety of different styles and types. As a result it never really developed an architecturally cohesive character throughout the neighborhood as a whole. The side streets sometimes have real architectural oddities on them, Edgerly Road and a few streets off Beacon near Overland come to mind.
 
Does it help that half of the garage at the lower end of Lansdowne is to become a Red Bone's. Hey I know it's not much for the die hard City Planner's here, but I thought I'd try!!!!
 
Redbones as in the same Redbones in Davis Square? Love that place. Nothing like their Arkansas Rib. Good news.
 
Redbones is illin. My uncle took me there for a birthday once, then the next year to the B Side, another great institution.
 
If ticketmaster is correct, the new house of blues will be open for business in February.

Also, the dropkicks have scheduled 6 nights of concerting on their traditional st pattys week. (Last year the show was at the paradise, the year before they did one at agganis, one at avalon)
 
As I was coming into Boston last night for the first time in a few months, I drove by Fenway from the Pike-it looks like that Avalon/Axis combo is coming along/came along nicely...that's not where HOB is going, right? Is it already open?
 
As I was coming into Boston last night for the first time in a few months, I drove by Fenway from the Pike-it looks like that Avalon/Axis combo is coming along/came along nicely...that's not where HOB is going, right? Is it already open?

This thread is about new lansdowne street which is the House of Blues, which was Avalon/Axis.
 
does any city have two House of Blues? The south boston seaport would be a great location for an another.
 
does any city have two House of Blues? The south boston seaport would be a great location for an another.

Because exactly what Boston needs is another chain tourist outlet? I'd like to see something along the lines of a Wallys, Bob the Chef, Beehive. Real music, not a cookie-cutter Applebees-meets-Viacom.
 
Well it better be open in time. I just bought my tickets to the Dropkicks Sunday show in March...

Unfortunately, you can't plan a Wally's. You just open it up and hope it develops into something. The problem with a HOB or anything like it. It thinks that it's Wally's on the first day because it has Blues in the name, and memorabilia on the wall. Kind of like a Planet Hollywood for music. Which we already have, but it goes by the name of Hard Rock Cafe. Another abortion of a concept, but at least it's now where it belongs in Faneuil Hall where all the hipsters, tourists, and drunk college kids can easily find it.

HOB is just another nail in the Lansdowne street coffin. It is all part of turning the area around Fenway into the same thing as every other city, with cookie cutter bars all around with hokey names and glittery lights. To put it in other terms, walking down Lansdowne you pass the Cask N' Flagon, The House of Blues, and Jillians on the other end. This would be much like walking by Walmart, Lowe's, Home Depot, and a Target elsewhere.
 
Because exactly what Boston needs is another chain tourist outlet? I'd like to see something along the lines of a Wallys, Bob the Chef, Beehive. Real music, not a cookie-cutter Applebees-meets-Viacom.


great theory there but the chances of that happening are slim. and because of attitudes like yours we get to enjoy no place to catch live music in that part of town. I guess maybe if we are lucky someone local will open a live music venue in that part of town in the next 20 years..... I really don't get the "I rather have nothing than a well run chain" theory. Perhaps someone can explain that to me.
 
To put it in other terms, walking down Lansdowne you pass the Cask N' Flagon, The House of Blues, and Jillians on the other end. This would be much like walking by Walmart, Lowe's, Home Depot, and a Target elsewhere.

Could you justify that logic? I'm not trying to be an asshole; I'm genuinely curious.
 
I don't understand the objection to House of Blues, given that the chain started here in Cambridge.
 

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