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With Regional service set to start on December 12th, I thought I'd share with you some interesting facts that don't rate as 'press-release' worthy news:
  • Trains en route to or originating from Norfolk will stop at Petersburg, Staples Mill Road, then make all existing station stops en route to Alexandria, Washington DC and points north. Naturally, service from Woodbridge, Quantico, or Petersburg to Norfolk and back is much less exciting than service to the NEC.
  • Trains #71, #125 and #157 will originate from NYP. This means that there is NO direct service from Boston to Norfolk. (However, train #174 proceeds from Norfolk all the way to Boston, so there is a direct northbound connection.) Fortunately, the NYP connection seems relatively painless and you can likely connect anywhere else on the route as well.
 
So attempting to get support for the Libertarian Party with freebies and handouts. That's just beautiful. :)
 
statler said:
So attempting to get support for the Libertarian Party with freebies and handouts. That's just beautiful. :)
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And to think, we (the Suffolk Libertarians group) don't even like the LP. Not to mention, the LP is a pain in the ass with its rules and views.
 
BostonUrbEx said:
And to think, we (the Suffolk Libertarians group) don't even like the LP. Not to mention, the LP is a pain in the ass with its rules and views.
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So, what do the Suffolk Libertarians stand for, anyway?

I would've gone, but I was feeling sick and decided that maybe coughing/sneezing it up at a brunch was not the best plan...
 
Commuting Boston Student said:
So, what do the Suffolk Libertarians stand for, anyway?
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For the most part, anarcho-capitalism. But due to the perception ingrained into society about what anarchy is, we can't just call ourselves that. But we try to encourage people towards libertarian (lowercase L) thought through debates, speeches, and books. Why? As they adage goes, what is the difference between a libertarian minarchist and an anarchist is? Six months. Also, we need some way to transition, as I think we all agree we can't just pull out the rug, and the transition could be decades even. So libertarian minded candidates are generally our compromise. The Johnson/Gray campaign is pretty disappointing on foreign policy though. They'd probably get us into another war, frankly.
 
BostonUrbEx said:
For the most part, anarcho-capitalism. But due to the perception ingrained into society about what anarchy is, we can't just call ourselves that. But we try to encourage people towards libertarian (lowercase L) thought through debates, speeches, and books. Why? As they adage goes, what is the difference between a libertarian minarchist and an anarchist is? Six months. Also, we need some way to transition, as I think we all agree we can't just pull out the rug, and the transition could be decades even. So libertarian minded candidates are generally our compromise. The Johnson/Gray campaign is pretty disappointing on foreign policy though. They'd probably get us into another war, frankly.
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...so, wait.

You're advocating the gradual elimination of state and federal powers?
 
Gabriel Over the White House on Turner Classic Movies. Gee I'm glad our betters in the media and academia don't fantasize about that kind of thing anymore. :rolleyes:
 
Commuting Boston Student said:
...so, wait.

You're advocating the gradual elimination of state and federal powers?
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That's generally what one means when they talk about anarcho-capitalism. In theory, I'd love to see such a system, provided a mechanism could be created to ensure access to vital resources overseas - oil, coal and iron ore among others(think Blackwater on steroids).
 
kmp1284 said:
That's generally what one means when they talk about anarcho-capitalism. In theory, I'd love to see such a system, provided a mechanism could be created to ensure access to vital resources overseas - oil, coal and iron ore among others(think Blackwater on steroids).
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Look, I like freedom and self-determination and all that good Libertarian party stuff as much as the next guy, but doesn't this end in the total collapse of the country as society breaks down completely without basic things like, y'know... laws and law enforcement?

Or is this the sort of thing like "free market woohoo BUT the government is still there for running the military and the police and dealing with other governments?"
 
Commuting Boston Student said:
Look, I like freedom and self-determination and all that good Libertarian party stuff as much as the next guy, but doesn't this end in the total collapse of the country as society breaks down completely without basic things like, y'know... laws and law enforcement?

Or is this the sort of thing like "free market woohoo BUT the government is still there for running the military and the police and dealing with other governments?"
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Total collapse and breaking down completely isn't the goal. The goal is gradual change in society from within, and a gradual transition into a more efficient and advanced world.

underground said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0
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And this entirely supports my argument that complete and utter collapse at the drop of a hat is not good for anybody. It's all about how to transition. Not to mention I don't see how multiple factions vying to be the next government constitutes a proper anarchic society.
 
Amtrak will be conducting tests of 165 mph Acela operation right here in Massachusetts, according to today's Metro, which names South Attleboro and Readville as likely sites.
 
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