Academic Building @ Suffolk U | 20 Somerset Street | Beacon Hill

Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

Oh, whoops. I think New York has more total college students, but a lower number per capita. Montreal sometimes claims a higher number per capita than Boston (which is highest per capita in the US), and some sites claim it has the highest number per capita in the world.

I'll have a hard time believing that students in Boston are less well behaved than those in Montreal and NYC

The universities in those cities barely have any frat culture to drive a lot of that behavior. Social life tends to be more "small group going out to bars" than "wild house party".
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

From Scott Van Voorhis in today's Herald:
Call it a case of building it up to tear it down - at taxpayer expense.

The state agency handling the sale of the former Metropolitan District Commission headquarters at the foot of Beacon Hill plans to spend more than $200,000 to shore up the 1930s-era office building.

But the improvements may not last for long.

Suffolk University, which is in the process of buying the building, plans to tear down the hulking structure after the sale is complete.

The university, which hopes to wrap up its acquisition of the state-owned building by next summer, wants to replace it with a new building to house its art school.

The $200,000 comes atop another $18,000 spent by the Division of Capital Asset Management to put scaffolding and netting around the long-empty building after some bricks came loose.

The prospect of money being pumped into a doomed building prompted Barbara Anderson, head of Citizens for Limited Taxation, to offer a less costly alternative.

?Why don?t they just tear it down now?? she asked. ?What is everyone waiting for??

A spokesman for the Division of Capital Asset Management defended the work, calling it necessary to protect the public.

The new, $200,000 contract, according to a bidding document, involves rebuilding some of the brick facade and removing air-conditioning units and replacing them with plywood covers, among other things.

?It?s pretty common knowledge the building is in rough shape,? said Kevin Flanigan, a spokesman for the agency.

?You obviously need to take that stuff very seriously.?

The sale of the building has been delayed after a fierce battle between Suffolk and its Beacon Hill neighbors over a previous proposal to build a dorm tower on the site.

Suffolk now wants to build an art school complex, but first must get City Hall approval for its master plan guiding future expansion.

http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1047953
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

The Boston Landmarks Commission released a report recommending official historic status for a key portion of a 1930s-era building, which the university wants to demolish to make way for a soaring new student high-rise.


Suffolk University, which is in the process of buying the building, plans to tear down the hulking structure after the sale is complete.

First it's historic, then it's a "hulking structure". So, I guess the former MDC headquarters is really a "historic hulk!" An awful lot of politics seems to be involved in this building; once the Beacon Hill Neighborhood Association got their way with preventing the dorm being built, this "historic" structure seems to have reverted back to just another "hulking structure."
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

Boston Herald
by Scott van Voorhis

Suffolk University is facing another community battle over its plans to redevelop a decrepit state office building on Beacon Hill, months after dropping plans for a 31-story student dorm.


The Beacon Hill Civic Association, which led a successful effort to scuttle the student high-rise plan, is now expressing concern about Suffolk?s proposal to build a new home for its art school where the old MDC headquarters now stands.


Meanwhile, the Massachusetts Historical Commission, in a recent letter to Suffolk, urged the university to rethink plans to tear down the building and explore ways to reuse the now-empty 1930s-era structure.


The renewed opposition to its plans to redevelop the long-empty and boarded-up state office building at the foot of Beacon Hill prompted some sharp comments from a top Suffolk official. John Nucci, Suffolk?s government affairs chief, contends that Beacon Hill residents, at public meetings on the dorm tower, had pushed for an academic use.


?If they don?t want the dorm and they don?t want the classrooms, it seems they don?t want anything on the site,? said Nucci. ?That is not in the best interest of the city and it?s not acceptable to the university.?


But Beacon Hill residents are concerned about Suffolk?s expansion plans, even as the university, in a proposed master plan, calls for turning Beacon Hill into a non-expansion zone.


Sentiment within the civic association is split. Some members are opposed to Suffolk?s proposal to move the art school to the site, concerned it could lead to even more students living on Beacon Hill, said John Achatz, board chairman of the civic association.


While insisting there is no antagonism toward Suffolk and its institutional needs, Achatz said the neighborhood long ago made clear it would be ?most comfortable? with a hotel or a residential building on the site. ?I think Suffolk is trying to characterize the history in a public relations way,? he said.
http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1050229

What Achatz is saying is: we don't want Suffolk period. So what about a residential hotel that rents rooms by the hour, or, better yet, a single room occupancy building.
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

Sell the State Service Building to Sufolk. This is one of the few great modern building in Boston and it would finally live up to it's potential with a good owner. All those students would liven up the place.
 
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Suffolk opens new dorm in Downtown Crossing

January 9, 2008
By Globe Staff

The revitalization of Boston?s Downtown Crossing area today passed another milestone as Suffolk University opened a residence hall on West Street.

"Suffolk is going to be a great asset," said Mary Ann Ponti, a board member on the Downtown Crossing Association.

The building will house 274 undergraduate students in apartments and suites, and will feature a coffee shop and restaurant on the street level, the university said in a statement.

Downtown Crossing has struggled for years, and the retail district suffered big blows last year with the closure of Filene's Basement and the Filene's Department store. Demolition of the Filene's complex starts this month, meaning the heart of the district will become a construction zone for the next two years.

Ponti, who lives on Washington Street in the district, said things are looking up, however, with repairs to sidewalks, streets, and lighting, and stepped-up policing.

"Everything has been coming along, slowly but surely," she said.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/01/suffolk_opens_n.html
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

Suffolk University hopes to open the building in September, but it will be completed in January at the latest, Nucci said.

So they were on time...sort of.
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

The only reasonable time to open a dorm is the beginning of a term, so if they missed September, they may as well wait until now.
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

Well yeah, of course.

I, uh, knew that. Just seeing if anyone else would pick up on it.

Yeah, that's it.

Good job Ron!
 
Beacon Hill Suffolk Dorms

Looks like Suffolk may put an International-style glass building -- and not even a tall one -- in the place of one of the few older, elegant buildings on Somerset Street.

The article has no mention of the existing building, no details on the proposed one, and focuses on neighbors' height fears and whether a new building will "fit in" with the (half-hideous, half-stately) neighborhood. Menino claims victory because he got Suffolk to not put up a tall building, thank God, and the university is now (is this a joke?) agreeing to cap its class sizes. What a champ you are, Mumbles:

Beacon Hill, Suffolk reach expansion deal
By Peter Schworm
Globe Staff / June 5, 2008

Suffolk University and the chief Beacon Hill neighborhood group have struck a pivotal deal on the college's ambitious expansion plan, paving the way for its approval and easing one of the city's deepest town-gown quarrels.
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The hard-won pact, announced yesterday after 18 months of talks and two days of intense negotiations between Suffolk and Beacon Hill Civic Association representatives, essentially prevents the college from enlarging its Beacon Hill footprint, a long-standing fear among residents.

It would sharply extend a "nonexpansion zone" to include Upper Beacon Hill, the area between Charles Street and the Charles River, and the Park Street area. In a highly unusual condition, the college has also agreed to freeze its enrollment at 5,000 full-time undergraduates for the next decade to limit its need for further growth.

In exchange, the civic association has agreed to support Suffolk's plan to build a 10-story academic building at 20 Somerset St. and not to contest the university's 10-year expansion plan, which is under city review. They have also agreed to nonresidential developments at 73 Tremont St., 1 Beacon St., and in Center Plaza.

Suffolk officials and Beacon Hill neighbors praised the agreement, which must be approved Monday by the neighborhood group's board, as a milestone that is likely to end years of acrimony between the private college and well-heeled neighborhood.

Notable for its scope and detail, the agreement could also probably fast-track Suffolk's plans to build the Somerset Street facility, which will include the relocated art school, as well as a 12-story dormitory and studio theater on the site of the historic Modern Theatre on Washington Street.

John Nucci, Suffolk's vice president for external affairs, headed up the negotiations with Beacon Hill neighbors. He said the agreement should ease friction over the proper boundaries of the university.

Suffolk has expanded substantially in recent years as it has transformed from a commuter school to a more residential university.

"It shifts the university's whole center of gravity away from Beacon Hill," Nucci said. "This bodes well for a peaceful coexistence between the Beacon Hill neighborhood and Suffolk."

Robert Whitney, a member of the association's board of directors and the negotiating team, said the agreement gives the thickly settled neighborhood greater protection from future development.

"We know we don't have to worry about Suffolk building in certain areas anymore," he said. "We had reached a saturation point where we really couldn't take any more."

The agreement, he added, will also help accelerate Suffolk's building plans.

Efforts by area colleges to gain more elbow room has frequently generated sparks with their neighbors. Allston-Brighton residents are engaged in intense debates with Boston College and Harvard University over sweeping expansion proposals, and Roxbury neighbors continue to tussle with Northeastern over building plans.

In the face of sharp city and neighborhood resistance, Suffolk withdrew its plan for a high-rise dormitory at 20 Somerset St. in 2006.

The college had previously built a 19-story dorm at 10 Somerset in 2003, its second residence hall.

In a written statement yesterday, Mayor Thomas M. Menino, who opposed the previous dorm plan, praised the agreement as a good compromise.

"Universities and colleges are crucial to Boston's economy and prominence, but institutional expansion needs to be done in a way that is in harmony with our great neighborhoods," he said in the statement.

Pending city approval, Suffolk hopes to begin construction on the Modern Theatre site this fall, for an opening in fall 2010. It plans to open 20 Somerset the following year.

Nucci said the association, which has more than 1,000 members, protected its interests aggressively. He also said the enrollment limit for the college, which now has 4,900 students, would not hamper the university's plans.

"We think it's the right size for the university," he said.

Under the deal, Suffolk also pledged not to add classroom seats in the nonexpansion zone, make its paid Boston police details and neighborhood-response units permanent, and remove 400 classroom seats from the Temple Street area and relocate them to the proposed Somerset Street building.

Peter Schworm can be reached at schworm@globe.com.

http://www.boston.com/news/educatio.../05/beacon_hill_suffolk_reach_expansion_deal/
 
Re: Beacon Hill Suffolk Dorms

Here are some photos of 20 Somerset.

It looks like the Boston Preservation Alliance put in an application for Landmark status for 20 Somerset back in 2006. (Click "Download Issue" for article.)

Maybe now's the time to put in another?
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

^ Are you sure? Isn't that entrance detail the only good thing about that building?

Maybe it could be saved and re-used on the replacement.
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

Wow suffolk just got pawned. I have no problem with Beacon Hill itself not being expanded upon, but what does that association have to do with what gets built on Washington St.? That's criminal to me.
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

I think the whole thing is hilarious. Mr. Whitney acts as if he's saving Boston from itself, and Suffolk is laughing the whole time. While Suffolk irked a lot of people just by being Suffolk and are frigging preschoolers at public relations, they did one thing right: they expanded the undergrad body to what they wanted before "reaching an agreement" on an enrollment cap.

That's hilarious.

Beacon Hill/NIMBY's run amuck think they won, but in 10 years (when the undergrad cap expires) Suffolk will declare this "agreement" null and void and start buying property for further expansion with the reasonable answer that, "Well, we waited 10 years to expand, and now the Theater District is fully developed. You didn't really expect us to have a static population, did you?"

Master Planning is for the long-term benefit of both the institution and the community. Beacon Hill won a short-term "battle," but guaranteed themselves a loss in the battle.

Suffolk is the winner here, and when it comes down to it, the BRA will have no choice but to support the school if in 10-12 years Suffolk presents a reasonable and measured plan for growth through the middle part of the century.

EDIT: for clarity. long sentences = confusion
 
Re: Suffolk Dorms - 10 West St / Beacon Hill tower

BHCA might get burned the way they did in the Ristorante Toscano case. The Association agreed not to oppose the restaurant's beer and wine license application if the restaurant agreed never to seek a "full" license. Toscano got its b and w, and then reneged. Litigation ensued, and the court ruled that this type of agreement is "against public policy". The boys over at S.U. probably cooked this deal up over whiskey and sodas at Toscano.
 
Suffolk Univ. seeking to build $68m art center on Beacon Hill

By Peter Schworm
Globe Staff / September 9, 20

Suffolk University filed plans with city officials yesterday for a new $68 million academic building, a 10-story, contemporary, glass-dominated structure overlooking a revamped public plaza atop Beacon Hill.

The Somerset Street building would replace the former Metropolitan District Commission headquarters, a brick building that has fallen into disrepair and has been unoccupied for several years. The new facility, a cornerstone of the university's expansion campaign, would house the university's art school, including a first-floor art gallery, and classrooms.

University officials presented preliminary designs of the building last week to a community task force studying the plan. Neighbors, who defeated earlier plans for a dormitory on the site, have voiced support for the new proposal, although neighborhood and city reviews of the design likely will last several months.

This summer, the city approved the university's broader expansion blueprint after a June agreement between university officials and the chief Beacon Hill neighborhood group.

The unusual town-gown accord prevents the university from expanding into the bulk of Beacon Hill in exchange for neighborhood support for the Somerset project and other planned university developments.

John Nucci, Suffolk's vice president for external affairs, who has led negotiations with Beacon Hill neighbors over expansion plans, said proposals for the plaza include an exhibit commemorating the history of the MDC.

The university hopes to transform the area, largely abandoned after workers leave for the day, into an attractive meeting place at a heavily trafficked intersection.

"It's really designed to be a public area," Nucci said. "We hope it becomes a gathering spot for state workers, residents, and students alike."

Nucci said Suffolk has agreed to pay the state $10 million for the property, which has structural problems and will be leveled to make way for the new building. Neighbors urged university officials to recognize the MDC's history of public conservation and construction in the new park, Nucci said.

The front of the building, which will overlook the plaza, will feature a clear facade to "create a sense of activity," Nucci said.

"Most folks feel there's a need to brighten up that area," he said. "Right now it's a 9-to-5 environment."

The back of the building, which overlooks the Garden of Peace, a memorial to city murder victims, will be translucent to convey a quieter feel, according to the design plans.

The university hopes to complete the building in 2011. Suffolk is poised to begin construction this fall on a 200-student dormitory and studio theater on the site of the historic Modern Theatre on Washington Street.

Bob O'Brien, a community task force member and executive director of the Downtown North Association, said the design was well-received, although some neighbors felt it was too contemporary for an area dominated by more traditional architecture.

O'Brien said he thought the building's open, modern design and a revamped plaza could energize the neighborhood.

"I am very encouraged by this," he said.

"This could have an immediate and very beneficial impact. There's a sense this building can affect the surrounding areas in many positive ways."

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Re: Suffolk Plans for Beacon Hill Arts Center

The front of the building, which will overlook the plaza, will feature a clear facade to "create a sense of activity," Nucci said.

A sense of activity but not actual activity. That plaza is a dud and these people are talking out of their asses.
 
Re: Suffolk Plans for Beacon Hill Arts Center

The plaza in front of the MIT student center is generally busy in good weather; I expect the same will be true here.
 
Re: Suffolk Plans for Beacon Hill Arts Center

"proposals for the plaza include an exhibit commemorating the history of the MDC"

That's brilliant. So when people say "what's with this craptastic, poorly maintained, trash-strewn plaza?" The natural response will be "why, it's an exhibit commemorating the history of the MDC!" Oh, now that makes sense.
 
Commemmorating the MDC

Didn't they build the Quabbin Reservoir and the whole system of aqueducts that feed drinking water from it to the Boston area? As well as the Esplanade and the Olmsted park system? These accomplishments seem to me worth commemmorating in some way.
 

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