F-Line to Dudley
- Nov 2, 2010
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It's electrically impossible to thru-run everybody. Metro North EMU's can't run on 25 Hz overhead in New Jersey, LIRR EMU's can't run on any type of overhead (and they're not ordering M8 clones because those won't fit into Grand Central Madison),, NJT electrics can't run on LIRR third rail. The NJT dual-modes would slow the most congested parts of LIRR the hell down if they ran in any serious quantity, and the LIRR duals likewise on the NEC (plus there aren't physically enough of them to give it a try). LIRR's cab signals are incompatible with everyone else's, so there'd have to be signal mods to every piece of foreign equipment going to Long Island. MNRR New Haven points the wrong way for Long Island, and the Empire Connection (Hudson Line) points the wrong way for Jersey. The only possible run-thru that'll work with existing all-electric equipment is NJT locals to Stamford or expresses to New Haven, but that (esp. New Haven) starts seriously blurring the lines with what Amtrak does best so it's unclear what market there is for that.Never mind the through-running as that just seems way too pie-in-the-sky. The separated agencies and multiple states being involved would end up being way too complex.
The proposal assumes some sort of frictionless electronics that simply don't exist in the real world without billions of dollars in do-overs for the electrification schemes and/or for hyper-hyper-custom rolling stock orders.