Allston Yards (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
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Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
sorry, i had to repost.
i forgot a couple.....
most cities run a mix of sound policy, sound decision making and crisis management.
then there's our beloved Boston
a small city that failed to incorporate
+ public unions (God, that's a lot of $$$)
+ big union everything (more God, that's a lot of $$$)
+ ancient streets that date back 2/3rds to the middle ages
+ vast stretches of as near as makes no difference, un-taxable land....
+ endlessly complex multi-stage review process to build anything bigger than 32' up or down, fore or aft
+ zoning from the 1950s
+ draconian shadow laws everywhere
+ rendering as near as makes no difference, zero available land for highrise construction
+ endless protected zones from even mid-rise development (less highrises)
+ nimby lunatics running the asylum (who freak out when anything over 189' is proposed)
+ screaming about 160' canyons (a.k.a. Manhattanization) in the heart of 6th largest economic business metro in the U.S.
+ neighborhood preservation groups obstructing projects well beyond the limits of their own neighborhoods
+ 'dug in' parochialism, Irish townies and cronies vs Boston Brahmins & thin-skinned residents
+ miscellaneous special interest extortion groups demanding 'their cut'
+ sanctuary city which presents its own unique and daunting challenges
+ thousands of homeless freezing to death
+ snowmageddon every 3 years (Global Warming, come hither)
vs right-to-work city-states in the sunbelt enjoying exponential growth in the Global marketplace
= crisis management on everything.
sorry, i had to repost.
i forgot a couple.....
most cities run a mix of sound policy, sound decision making and crisis management.
then there's our beloved Boston
a small city that failed to incorporate
+ public unions (God, that's a lot of $$$)
+ big union everything (more God, that's a lot of $$$)
+ ancient streets that date back 2/3rds to the middle ages
+ vast stretches of as near as makes no difference, un-taxable land....
+ endlessly complex multi-stage review process to build anything bigger than 32' up or down, fore or aft
+ zoning from the 1950s
+ draconian shadow laws everywhere
+ rendering as near as makes no difference, zero available land for highrise construction
+ endless protected zones from even mid-rise development (less highrises)
+ nimby lunatics running the asylum (who freak out when anything over 189' is proposed)
+ screaming about 160' canyons (a.k.a. Manhattanization) in the heart of 6th largest economic business metro in the U.S.
+ neighborhood preservation groups obstructing projects well beyond the limits of their own neighborhoods
+ 'dug in' parochialism, Irish townies and cronies vs Boston Brahmins & thin-skinned residents
+ miscellaneous special interest extortion groups demanding 'their cut'
+ sanctuary city which presents its own unique and daunting challenges
+ thousands of homeless freezing to death
+ snowmageddon every 3 years (Global Warming, come hither)
vs right-to-work city-states in the sunbelt enjoying exponential growth in the Global marketplace
= crisis management on everything.
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Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
Exactly, Stick.
Jahvon 09 and Tom of Boston should google what the city was like BEFORE the Big Dig compared to what it is now. It's not even close, and it is no coincidence. Boston was NOT on the list of "World Cities" before the Big Dig, no matter how long it took or how over budget it was. Today, Boston is the envy of almost every other city on this planet.
Does the hack system need to change? You bet. That should be a struggle we should be fighting - - not simply to shrug and give up. Infrastructure is vital and should not be forfeited because 'it is too hard'.
In the meantime, THIS is exactly what is needed and is smart-growth oriented. Every T station in the system should have a mini-city built around it with a good mixture of businesses/residences/services. Good on Stop and Shop for showing some great vision with this.
Exactly, Stick.
Jahvon 09 and Tom of Boston should google what the city was like BEFORE the Big Dig compared to what it is now. It's not even close, and it is no coincidence. Boston was NOT on the list of "World Cities" before the Big Dig, no matter how long it took or how over budget it was. Today, Boston is the envy of almost every other city on this planet.
Does the hack system need to change? You bet. That should be a struggle we should be fighting - - not simply to shrug and give up. Infrastructure is vital and should not be forfeited because 'it is too hard'.
In the meantime, THIS is exactly what is needed and is smart-growth oriented. Every T station in the system should have a mini-city built around it with a good mixture of businesses/residences/services. Good on Stop and Shop for showing some great vision with this.
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Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
Just to clarify:
+ thousands of homeless freezing to death
This isn't anywhere near the truth. Not even in a figurative way. There are several thousand homeless individuals in the city, overall, but very few aren't housed every night in shelters.
Just to clarify:
+ thousands of homeless freezing to death
This isn't anywhere near the truth. Not even in a figurative way. There are several thousand homeless individuals in the city, overall, but very few aren't housed every night in shelters.
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Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
^^i hope it looks like Assembly Row rather than [beyond bland] Dot Block...
and Stop & Shop locates very close by on either side of the bridge or North Beacon.
^^i hope it looks like Assembly Row rather than [beyond bland] Dot Block...
and Stop & Shop locates very close by on either side of the bridge or North Beacon.
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Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
LOLOL I was living in Boston long before you were a lump in your father's pants.
LOLOL I was living in Boston long before you were a lump in your father's pants.
Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
Not sure what motivates anyone to post here in that manner (or what it says about that person's life).
But, thank you for the vivid illustration of how much today's Boston is superior to the small, parochial Boston of yore.
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Not sure what motivates anyone to post here in that manner (or what it says about that person's life).
But, thank you for the vivid illustration of how much today's Boston is superior to the small, parochial Boston of yore.
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Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
In my feeble attempt to unfuck this thread I want to say that I think the idea that supermarkets building housing is fucking genius. Why build housing with the hopes of a supermarket moving to the neighborhood when you can build a supermarket that can build its own customer base? Brilliant.
In my feeble attempt to unfuck this thread I want to say that I think the idea that supermarkets building housing is fucking genius. Why build housing with the hopes of a supermarket moving to the neighborhood when you can build a supermarket that can build its own customer base? Brilliant.
Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
Definitely.
Along with the location of this development by the new station, a new (and reportedly) outstanding version of a Stop and Shop is key. The fact that a supermarket is now actively getting into the development game makes so much sense and is truly a gamechanger. Let's hope Star Market, Market Basket, Trader Joes, etc. keep this going.
Supermarkets becoming developers is a great idea for the future of cities.
Definitely.
Along with the location of this development by the new station, a new (and reportedly) outstanding version of a Stop and Shop is key. The fact that a supermarket is now actively getting into the development game makes so much sense and is truly a gamechanger. Let's hope Star Market, Market Basket, Trader Joes, etc. keep this going.
Supermarkets becoming developers is a great idea for the future of cities.
Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
Realizing they were sitting on a gold mine, Safeway has developed several of its DC properties with significant residential above. The stores benefit by being able to wholesale renovate their space and having built-in customers ready to shop. Everyone benefits with a nicer grocery store and more active street life. It's a great model.
Realizing they were sitting on a gold mine, Safeway has developed several of its DC properties with significant residential above. The stores benefit by being able to wholesale renovate their space and having built-in customers ready to shop. Everyone benefits with a nicer grocery store and more active street life. It's a great model.
Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
+1.
I actually live a few miles away from one of those - - their Wheaton, MD development - - directly across Georgia Avenue from the Wheaton Metro station. I hadn't known that Safeway was actually the developer of that very nice building which is taking that area closer to a smart-growth density. It simply makes too much sense.
https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=e...ved=0ahUKEwikv_Cnm43SAhVGCpoKHV4NBvUQoioIczAK
+1.
I actually live a few miles away from one of those - - their Wheaton, MD development - - directly across Georgia Avenue from the Wheaton Metro station. I hadn't known that Safeway was actually the developer of that very nice building which is taking that area closer to a smart-growth density. It simply makes too much sense.
https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=e...ved=0ahUKEwikv_Cnm43SAhVGCpoKHV4NBvUQoioIczAK
Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
Move to the sun belt, please. Everyone wins.
Move to the sun belt, please. Everyone wins.
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Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
Safeway's doing this in California, too. Their architecture is actually pretty lovely. Hopefully, Albertsons will keep that up in Boston - the Beacon St. location in Somerville could use that treatment.
Safeway's doing this in California, too. Their architecture is actually pretty lovely. Hopefully, Albertsons will keep that up in Boston - the Beacon St. location in Somerville could use that treatment.
Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
FYI, Stop & Shop has supposedly been calling this "Allston Yards", not sure where the "Boston Landing Station Residences" title here came from.
FYI, Stop & Shop has supposedly been calling this "Allston Yards", not sure where the "Boston Landing Station Residences" title here came from.
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Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
My Allston friends rarely stray outside Allston. I have one who told me he had never been to Chinatown but lived in Boston for 3 years. I think this is a wonderful thing. More housing for Allston 20-30 year olds who live packed like sardines to share rent just the same as the kids still in college. I don't know anyone there with a car.
My Allston friends rarely stray outside Allston. I have one who told me he had never been to Chinatown but lived in Boston for 3 years. I think this is a wonderful thing. More housing for Allston 20-30 year olds who live packed like sardines to share rent just the same as the kids still in college. I don't know anyone there with a car.
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Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
He's right...
http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/n...op-wants-to-turn-its-allston-market-into.html
From the article: The old supermarket will remain open while the new one is built with residential housing. To maintain parking, I bet they'll take down the HomeGoods first and build the new store with frontage on Everett St.
EDIT: It's kind of funny that this thread is labeled "Allston" while the project next door is labeled "Brighton." I know the projects are, too, but it's still odd.
He's right...
http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/n...op-wants-to-turn-its-allston-market-into.html
From the article: The old supermarket will remain open while the new one is built with residential housing. To maintain parking, I bet they'll take down the HomeGoods first and build the new store with frontage on Everett St.
EDIT: It's kind of funny that this thread is labeled "Allston" while the project next door is labeled "Brighton." I know the projects are, too, but it's still odd.
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I changed the title. I think the previous title was just a descriptive place holder.
Just a gentle reminder that archBoston isn't an advertisement platform for various developers. It's OK if the title conveys an accurate description of the project even if it doesn't hue exactly to the marketing materials.
Just a gentle reminder that archBoston isn't an advertisement platform for various developers. It's OK if the title conveys an accurate description of the project even if it doesn't hue exactly to the marketing materials.
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I wasn't complaining... I just thought it was funny. It's more on Ahold for naming a project located in Brighton "Allston Yards".
Re: Boston Landing Station Residences (Stop and Shop) | 60 Everett St | Allston
If you go by the post office definition of 02134 vs. 02135, then this is indeed Allston and New Balance's properties are Brighton. It is a fluid definition that sometimes results in even city departments going back and forth.
E.g. BPDA/BRA call 31 North Beacon as Allston on the project page, but then put it under Brighton on the BRA board agenda.
Only the Boston Police have it easy, just calling all of D-14 Brighton and not worrying about where that boundary lies.
If you go by the post office definition of 02134 vs. 02135, then this is indeed Allston and New Balance's properties are Brighton. It is a fluid definition that sometimes results in even city departments going back and forth.
E.g. BPDA/BRA call 31 North Beacon as Allston on the project page, but then put it under Brighton on the BRA board agenda.
Only the Boston Police have it easy, just calling all of D-14 Brighton and not worrying about where that boundary lies.