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Re: New Tower(s) Planned For Prudential Center

Taller buildings in the neighborhood (roughly in order):
The Hancock
The Pru
111 Huntington
The Old Hancock
The Westin
The Marriott
The Christian Science Admin Bldg
101 Huntington
The Clarendon
500 Boylston

Did I miss any?
 
Re: New Tower(s) Planned For Prudential Center

Have there been any new renderings released since they were forced to lop off three stories for no apparent reason?
 
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How long are building permits good for? This was fully approved by the city in December of '08, and received additional state environmental approval in Feb '09.

If what i can remember the permits are good for 2 years? Hence probably why they will start construction right before they are about to expire (anywhere between dec-feb depending on which approval its based on).

That also means 888 Boylston needs to get going or apply for an extension.

I might be making all of this up though too.
 
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CDubs said:
I don't know about progessive, but desperate, sure. Boston was in an economic downturn, and Hynes wanted the Pru there pretty badly.
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It wasn't an economic downturn. The city was dead and desperate times called for desperate measures. In hindsight we can see how many were mistakes were made.**Read a book like Building a New Boston by Thomas O'Connor or Planning the City Upon a Hill by Lawrence Kennedy.
 
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Meh, looks pretty bland to me.
 
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^^Semantics (from my point of view, anyway, I'm no expert on economic terms). I did read Building a New Boston, it's fantastic.
 
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statler said:
Nope, they were just that much more desperate. Remember, they were still in 'dying city' mode back then.
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It's amazing then that when a city is in a dying city mode that it develops more successfully then one that is almost stagnant. It's almost like a log function .
 
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^^ Yeah but they also do stupid things like destroying the West End. It's not all wine & roses.
 
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statler said:
^^ Yeah but they also do stupid things like destroying the West End. It's not all wine & roses.
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But that was in the 1950s through mid 1960s and that initiated the city's dying mode. 40 years ago is when the Hancock and downtown was being built out.
 
Re: New Tower(s) Planned For Prudential Center

One of the Avalon/Prudential buildings is named The Fairfield. Are you sure it's not an existing structure?
 
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o wow this building is beautiful just what the back bay needs!
 
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That link didn't work for me. Can someone copy it and paste it into the forum?
 
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Here's a site plan with the Mandarin in red.

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Re: New Tower(s) Planned For Prudential Center

I always thought there were more old Pru towers.

So much trouble from three little buildings. Huh.
 
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Where on that site plan is the new building?
 
Re: New Tower(s) Planned For Prudential Center

Just above the L&T in the diagram, facing onto Essex.
 
Re: New Tower(s) Planned For Prudential Center

Above meaning that it will be additional floors on top of the Lord & Taylor building? Where is Essex?
 
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Sorry, meant EXETER!

Far left of the diagram.
 
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