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A local paper (Boston Sun I believe) is reporting that the variances for 212 Stuart Street have been appealed by an abutter. The legal threshold to justify variances is extremely high. A litigant who has the motivation (and most importantly the legal standing) has a very strong case. The courts could easily render the variances void if the case actually moves forward.
good God.
 

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And this site has such a crappy history of deception that it is easy to imagine an abutter who might want a little payback.
 

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This puts the colossal order in colossal order windows.... it goes from 3 floors to 5 as you move up the tower making this thing look like its 7 floors tall. The ground floor is muuuuch better now, but the yellow concrete looking facade screams 1952 brutalism. The silverish grey played better off the motor mart garage, but damn the ground floor was bad then. Combine both?
 

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Soil/Geo rig working the site and the parking attendant was not a happy camper.
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Bet they find the diesel from the time my 300SDL had a fuel line split 25 years ago.
 

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I've mostly stayed away from this thread because losing the old facade made me sad, but I have to admit I really dig this. Will go to shit quickly if they start shaving dollars, though.
 

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Provided there's no changes here, I think that a decent facade analogue is rising in Lower Manhattan at 25 Park Row. Just to give an idea of what we might see.


Credit: FieldCondition
 

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This isnt anything huge but a lot of these and marriott moxys add up over time.
 

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Well said. This thing should be hitting 360', instead of 236'.
Worse still, the scam oversight committee will now commence with the grandstanding, delaying and extorting....
 

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Looks like the BPDA had to "take" a portion of land along Stuart St for this project to move forward. This occurred just a few weeks ago.

Also, if I am reading this February letter correctly, it looks like this project will include 11 on-site IDP units at 70% AMI, and up to 18,720 sq ft of off-site IDP units located at the Newcastle/Saranac Apartments in South End.
 

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project appears deader than dead.
That's now the default setting for anything and everything not connected to BU.

*someone might have said 2020. i believe that they did.
it's not a matter of if past is prologue: past IS prologue.
1. do projects even break ground in this general part of Boston?
that's a rhetorical question. Of course they don't.
2. i (also) put this one breaking ground in the when hell freezes over category.
 

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Why is this "deader than dead" if we have new renders and this parcel taking was happening 2 weeks ago?
 

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Why is this "deader than dead" if we have new renders and this parcel taking was happening 2 weeks ago?
It looks like he was responding to the renders post and the new information just happened to be added in the few minutes in between. I would also say this user regularly veers into hyperbole, except most of the "doom and gloom" has (unfortunately) yet to be proven wrong. Things sure do move slowly around here, unless it's in the Seaport or some other transit-wasteland area.

For instance, why on Earth would they wait until 2021 to break ground on this one? There is zero sense of urgency and that's why so many projects worthwhile projects end up on the scrap heap.
 

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It looks like he was responding to the renders post and the new information just happened to be added in the few minutes in between. I would also say this user regularly veers into hyperbole, except most of the "doom and gloom" has (unfortunately) yet to be proven wrong. Things sure do move slowly around here, unless it's in the Seaport or some other transit-wasteland area.

For instance, why on Earth would they wait until 2021 to break ground on this one? There is zero sense of urgency and that's why so many projects worthwhile projects end up on the scrap heap.
Totally feel this in my neighborhood as well. It seems like a lot of parties who oppose new development -- be they NIMBYs, anti-gentrification activists, local electeds, or neighborhood associations -- either don't understand the opportunity costs of delaying housing projects by months or years or are willfully blind to them. Our housing deficit is already vast, and the constant bureaucratic and political back-and-forth prior, during, and after the Article 80 process is partly why Boston is producing housing at such an anemic rate compared to many peer cities.
 

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2021.
Approved June 15th 2017.
By 2021, USA may be in a better position with respect the now, decades long trade war with China,
or it may not. Unfortunately by that time, we will very likely be in recession.
Seriously, what the hell is going on with this project? Four years from approval to Construction?
And you might as well tack on another year, to reduce the likelihood of disappointment.
It's 17 stories for Christ sake's. This is bordering on absurd.
In the Theater District areas, Back Bay, etc, after winning approval,
developers should kindly sell these projects to Millennium Partners,
or to..... Millennium Partners, and they'll have a much better chance of actually going u/c.
Midwood should have sold their property to the PRO's (that would be Millennium Partners),
and maybe that site would would have a prayer of getting built *(too).
Stick around a while: Boston development will makes cynics of you all. :)



**i'm grateful as fuck we have 2 developers in town with at least a semblance of a clue: (MP & Samuels)
***You learn to count your blessings in this loony bin of a town.
 
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