Biking in Boston

I agree. The issue lies in the differing expectation of what a "trail" should be. Most, if not all, of the trails in the Boston area were designed with recreation in mind more than transportation.

I propose that every section of trail (I'm excluding sidewalks) be converted into one of these options (many would require little to no build to fulfill these characteristics). Obviously this is complete fantasy and would probably be unenforceable without a societal shift and a lot of time for people to become accustomed to this system:

1. A "Multi-Use Trail," (3-10 mph). These should occur near entrances to transit stations and where space in constrained. There should be a stripe down the middle denoting that people stay to the right and flow in an orderly manner. There should be a 10 mph speed limit on these sections. Walkers, dog-walkers, etc. should be encouraged to stay to the right.

2. One path with "Bike Lane," (6-15 mph) and "Sidewalk" (<6 mph). These can occur where there space is somewhat, but not entirely constrained. Traffic going less than ~6 mph needs to use the sidewalk, i.e. walkers. I could see runners choosing between the two and/or using the bike lane to pass slower people on the sidewalk. Faster traffic should stay in the bike lane, i.e. cyclists, skateboarders, etc. There should be a stripe down the middle denoting that people stay to the right and flow in an orderly manner. There is a 15 mph speed limit in the bike lane.

3. Two separate paths, one signed as a "Footpath" (<6 mph, essentially the same as a sidewalk, just not adjacent to the bike lane) and one signed as a "Bike Path" (6-15 mph, which is essentially the same as a bike lane, just not adjacent to the sidewalk). A 6 mph speed limit should exist on the footpath (probably an informal speed limit). The footpath would not need any pavement markings. The bike path should have a stripe down the middle denoting that people stay to the right and flow in an orderly manner. A 15 mph speed limit on the bike path. These should occur where space is not an issue. One must walk their bike on the footpath, while pedestrians should be discouraged from using the bike path. Strollers, dogs and young children should be banned from the bike path. Pedestrians can only choose to use the bike path for running and must be aware and stay to the right.

In addition, lightly used side streets should be converted to "Bicycle Boulevards" (10-25 mph), anywhere it makes sense to do so. These are open to motor vehicles, but have actual operational 25 mph speed limits, with many traffic calming features, and adjacent sidewalks for pedestrians. I'm not sure how to prevent cars from going over 25 mph without signing it as 20 mph or wasting a lot of resources on enforcement/education.

I like the idea, but how do you make it all work? Signage? The SW Corridor has signage and it remains a complete disaster for cyclists.

You can have a massive field of grass and if there is just one foot of pavement marked to hell with flashing lights "bikes only", every pedestrian in the park will be walking on it.
 
I like the idea, but how do you make it all work? Signage? The SW Corridor has signage and it remains a complete disaster for cyclists.

You can have a massive field of grass and if there is just one foot of pavement marked to hell with flashing lights "bikes only", every pedestrian in the park will be walking on it.

Haha yes. This is undeniably true.
 
Well if it's just one foot of pavement, no kidding. Sounds like the Dudley White bike path in places, actually. ;)

Now, we still have a few cases where the path is 15-25 feet across, with marked sections, and the markings still are disregarded...
 
Unfortunately, visible clues are subject to the limitation that pedestrians must see and respect the information. The pedestrian and bike routes on the Lalemont path are clearly marked, and pedestrians are if anything more likely to walk on the bike sections. I have even been yelled at by pedestrians for riding my bike on a path that is clearly marked for bikes.


I have a feeling that even if they painted that bike path bright green with giant bike stencils and install flashing lights with bikes on them, you'd still have people yelling at you - especially around stony brook.


that - plus DCR has a history of being openly hostile to bike commuters.
 
I would like to get people's opinions here on something I have now witnessed about half a dozen times in the past year, which gets my blood absolutely BOILING everytime.

Now to preface, I am not a fan of bikers, at all. I would never actively go out of my way to try to run you down, but I am mostly likely secretly hoping you find a way to hurt yourselves on your own. (sorry) Worth noting that I was once hit in an intersection by a biker barrelling down the wrong way of a one way street, and I didn't fly off the handle or anything, so I'm not TOTALLY crazy.

But anyway, I'm a huge fan of the Cambridge side of the river, and park at the boathouses on Memorial Drive literally 1-3 times a week. This area has both a concrete sidewalk right next to the river, and a "dirt path" part a few feet in, in between the sidewalk and the road. Now, what I have noticed more frequently than I would like, are people riding their bicycles literally ON MEMORIAL DRIVE!!! Is there a law against this? Isn't it some sort of highway where they should not be allowed directly on this road, particularly with a parralel bike friendly path a few FEET away?!?!

Honestly, this road is tough enough just for cars. Isn't this the sort of psychotic behavior that leads most people who don't ride bikes to absolutely loathe those of you that do? Would any of you ride your bike down this road? Are bikes already banned from certain roads, such as would it be illegal to ride your bike down the shoulder of I-93? I honestly don't know, which is why I'm asking. I just think it's insane to be on a road like this and then have the added terror of trying to avoid a bicycle. Thoughts?
 
Thoughts?
My thought is that I'm really sick of drivers, bikers, and pedestrians complaining about each other. It was played out the first billion times.
 
But anyway, I'm a huge fan of the Cambridge side of the river, and park at the boathouses on Memorial Drive literally 1-3 times a week. This area has both a concrete sidewalk right next to the river, and a "dirt path" part a few feet in, in between the sidewalk and the road. Now, what I have noticed more frequently than I would like, are people riding their bicycles literally ON MEMORIAL DRIVE!!! Is there a law against this? Isn't it some sort of highway where they should not be allowed directly on this road, particularly with a parralel bike friendly path a few FEET away?!?!

Memorial Drive is not a limited access highway. It is a public street. So it is perfectly legal for a bicycle to ride upon it.

Having said that, I wouldn't do it, nor recommend it, precisely because it is one of those awful "parkway" car sewers that people drive recklessly upon. I think that people drive too fast on it, and it shouldn't be that way, but until something gets done, that's how it is.

But I do want to point out that the concrete sidewalk and the dirt path are not remotely adequate for the use they receive. The concrete sidewalk is very small (under 10 feet) and it is occupied by many, many pedestrians enjoying the river. And I can hardly fault them for that. Meanwhile, the dirt path is not very useful for road bikes with tires meant for paved surfaces.

Heck, just last week I was attempting to navigate the concrete sidewalk / so-called Paul Dudley White "bike path" on my bike and I found it to be incredibly slow going. I really try hard not to surprise anyone walking, so I wound up going 5 mph most of the way.

So I understand why some people on road bikes might want to take their chances on the only clear paved section of the right-of-way: Memorial Drive.

I've been thinking about it and I think I will just avoid that section of Cambridge altogether in the future.
 
What is the speed limit on Memorial? 30? 35? If you come up behind a cyclist going 15 when you are going 30, you slow down and pass them on the left when it is safe. How hard is that? Where are you going in such a hurry that slowing to 12-15 mph for a few seconds is going to change anything?

Honestly, does your complaint amount to more than "I got to my destination 20 seconds later because there were 2 people on bikes in the 2 miles I drove on Memorial"?
 
What is the speed limit on Memorial? 30? 35? If you come up behind a cyclist going 15 when you are going 30, you slow down and pass them on the left when it is safe. How hard is that? Where are you going in such a hurry that slowing to 12-15 mph for a few seconds is going to change anything?

Honestly, does your complaint amount to more than "I got to my destination 20 seconds later because there were 2 people on bikes in the 2 miles I drove on Memorial"?

I think it's 35, with the average speed around 40. (when not sitting at lights/in traffic) The thing is, the lanes for this road are barely large enough for the cars, and there is not an inch of shoulder on the side of the street. So whenever I see a biker, he's in the lane itself of the busy thoroughfare when there is adequate space to ride right next to the road.


But I do want to point out that the concrete sidewalk and the dirt path are not remotely adequate for the use they receive. The concrete sidewalk is very small (under 10 feet) and it is occupied by many, many pedestrians enjoying the river. And I can hardly fault them for that. Meanwhile, the dirt path is not very useful for road bikes with tires meant for paved surfaces.


So a 10 foot wide concrete sidewalk is not big enough, but a terrifying road that's barely wide enough for a car is OK to add bikes to?


By the way, everytime these articles are up on places like Boston.com, you'll notice that the "top rated comments" are almost always anti-bicycle. Your snarky responses to me here just reinforce why most of us who don't ride bikes can't stand the few of you that do. You are a nuisance to me as a pedestrian, and a nuisance to me as a driver. But it's never YOUR fault, now is it? It's always the pedestrian's or car's fault. Well, newsflash, you are by far the biggest offenders, and I look forward to hearing about more of you getting arrested for recklessness in the future.
 
What is the speed limit on Memorial? 30? 35? If you come up behind a cyclist going 15 when you are going 30, you slow down and pass them on the left when it is safe. How hard is that?

It is apparently hard enough that 40% of all bike fatalities are plain old "struck from behind". (as noted upthread and reposted here)

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As a commute-to-work cyclist, I've concluded that nothing is worth having an epitaph that reads "He had the right of way", and that cyclists are going to win this war with love, not with bombs: a little bit of deference to big/stupid/fast cars, by stopping at red lights to show "we are equal users of this road", and by saying a loud and cheerful "thanks" to drivers who are clearly paying attention (who often say "You're welcome"). That, and I have lights and day glo all over.

Where are you going in such a hurry that slowing to 12-15 mph for a few seconds is going to change anything?

Honestly, does your complaint amount to more than "I got to my destination 20 seconds later because there were 2 people on bikes in the 2 miles I drove on Memorial"?
I agree it is insane, but If we had a cars-vs-trains thread, we'd also see people getting killed by going around crossing gates the sake of 5 minutes saved (usually of leisure time). Humans are just not wired to make life-and-death judgments at any speed faster than we can run. Google's car can't get here soon enough.
 
So a 10 foot wide concrete sidewalk is not big enough, but a terrifying road that's barely wide enough for a car is OK to add bikes to?

By the way, everytime these articles are up on places like Boston.com, you'll notice that the "top rated comments" are almost always anti-bicycle. Your snarky responses to me here just reinforce why most of us who don't ride bikes can't stand the few of you that do. You are a nuisance to me as a pedestrian, and a nuisance to me as a driver. But it's never YOUR fault, now is it? It's always the pedestrian's or car's fault. Well, newsflash, you are by far the biggest offenders, and I look forward to hearing about more of you getting arrested for recklessness in the future.

What in the world, man? I didn't write any snark at all.

I said I don't blame pedestrians for being annoyed at bicyclists on the tiny concrete sidewalk. And yes, it is tiny, and under ten feet. Try going there on a nice and sunny day. It's a popular spot.

I also said that I don't ride on Memorial Drive.

Do you even read what I wrote, or do you just write knee jerk reaction responses?
 
The thing is, the lanes for this road are barely large enough for the cars, and there is not an inch of shoulder on the side of the street. So whenever I see a biker, he's in the lane itself of the busy thoroughfare when there is adequate space to ride right next to the road.

A lane barely big enough for a car (which, if you feel that way, means you are attempting to drive too fast) is plenty big for a bike, no shoulder needed. Cyclists always have a right to ride in the center of the lane everywhere EXCEPT limited access highways (where they are not allowed at all, even the shoulder).

You don't have to like it, but that is the law. Arlington makes a good point with the epitaph about having the right of way, but that doesn't justify anger at the cyclist who does in fact have the right of way.

If I can offer a nickel's worth of free advice, it is to learn to relax in traffic and slow down. I moved here 5 years ago accustomed to zipping around on suburban and small city streets. I drove myself nuts getting upset with cyclists, double parked cars, unsignaled lanes changes, and everything else a masshole driver could throw at me. After a couple years of frustration I learned that nothing I did in traffic got me where I was going any faster and there was nothing I could do to "punish" the people who pissed me off other than to honk at them. I learned to relax, slow down, and yield to the bikes, the buses, the assholes, the grannies, the speed demons, the drunks, the children playing ball, and every other obstacle on city streets.

Just slow down. You'll enjoy driving much more.
 
Memorial Drive:

As currently engineered, the road is essentially a low-speed highway, meant for cars traveling 30-45 mph. As we said up-thread, the mix of different speeds is what poses the biggest safety hazards. I believe that non-motorized vehicles should not be allowed on Memorial Drive for just that reason. At the same time, if the road is not put on a diet, there should be an adjacent bike path or cycle track. I mean a real bike path/cycle track. One in which pedestrians are not allowed and cyclists can safely get up to speed. There's plenty of room on Memorial Drive for the cars to have their highway, bicycles to have their bike path and pedestrians to have their footpath. You should not bike on Memorial Drive, but there aren't any appealing options in that stretch, except to avoid it entirely.
 
What in the world, man? I didn't write any snark at all.


Sorry, I kind of lumped you in with fattony. His initial response is the one that pissed me off.

By the way, I have slowed down substantially from my younger days. It doesn't change the fact that some roads are just not conducive to bicycles. The lanes of Memorial Drive (including the NONEXISTANT shoulder) are barely wide enough for cars. It has nothing to do with how fast I am driving. Also, considering many bikes kind of "wobble" from their lane into the path of cars, it's even that much more dangerous on a street as unforgiving as this one.

Thank you bigeman. It's funny, whenever I'm with somebody else and we see bikes on Memorial Drive it's an immediate "WTF?!?!" kind of moment for both of us. I guess it was wrong to assume that most people would agree that riding a bicycle on a near-highway, thin twisty multi-lane road, when there is a much less dangerous path a few feet away, is INSANE. Although, it's also wrong to think that a couple responses, in either direction, comprises "most people". I stand by my post that I don't think bikes should be allowed to ride in the middle of this road.

Edit: Arlington, that's an interesting chart. I wonder how many of those rear-end accidents are because the bicycle swerved in front of a car that was trying to pass it.

Edit 2: Fattony, just wondering, would you ever dare ride your bike down Storrow Drive? I don't really see how it's that much different from Memorial.
 
The lanes on Memorial are perfectly wide enough ... I've never had an issue (although this was usually in ford focus or similar Zipcar... maybe a bigger car might feel more constrained).
 
I think it's 35, with the average speed around 40. (when not sitting at lights/in traffic) The thing is, the lanes for this road are barely large enough for the cars, and there is not an inch of shoulder on the side of the street. So whenever I see a biker, he's in the lane itself of the busy thoroughfare when there is adequate space to ride right next to the road.

Memorial's got bits and pieces of bicycle accessibility, it's just not knit together in any coherent way.

-- Eliot Bridge at the west end has a nice underpass grade separating the interchange, but on one side is the travesty that is the Greenough Blvd. sidewalk and on the other side is a too-narrow Memorial sidewalk on the overgrown riverbank. DCR won't do basic vegetation and soil control here making the shoreline appropriate for widening that sidewalk or putting in an adjacent cycle track, but the space is most definitely there and can be done fully environmentally kosher with the riverbank.

-- Riverfront Park out near Harvard has a grade separated side cycle track striped with lanes. But it turns back into a regular sidewalk after a short distance and puts the walkers back in direct competition with high-speed bike traffic.

-- Striped cycle track returns near Western Ave./River St. But it all needs to be widened because the joggers have worn the grass strip between the cycle track and the curb completely bare. Not a lot of great options here, but they can do a less afterthought of a job than this and at least confine the pinch points of mixed ped traffic to smaller areas. Also...after this many years there STILL isn't a ped cycle or so much as a ped button at the Western and River bridges.

-- Magazine Beach near BU Bridge is getting some long overdue work from DCR that'll similarly improve bike access (and rebuilt BU Bridge is striped for bikes now, as are Brookline St. out to Central Sq. and Waverly St. out to MIT). But that's likewise just a disconnected chunk of accessibility.

-- BU Boathouse to Mass Ave. has the hillside worn completely raw by joggers going off the narrow sidewalk, and DCR has been completely negligent at mitigating the soil erosion. That sidewalk is completely widen-able and an adjacent cycle track can go in if they would only stabilize the damn hillside that's filling up the river with eroded silt.

-- Mass Ave. to MIT Boathouse looks like this: http://goo.gl/maps/7FelH. Another place where joggers and bikers have worn the grass completely bare. Hello!...the people have spoken; that's a cycle track. Let the walkers and tourists hang along the railing and benches and the high-speed ped traffic on a separate track between the sidewalk and road.

-- No easy answers for MIT Boathouse under the Longfellow to the cycle track on Cambridge Pkwy. that takes you the rest of the distance to Cambridgeside. Probably can only stripe a bike symbol in the right lane and put warning signage. But that's not a particularly long stretch.

-- Cambridge Pkwy. has the nice cycle track, low volumes, and underpass of Land Blvd. to Cambridgeside. If they can complete the Somerville Community Path to Lechmere and Northpoint, it's one easy street crossing at Lechmere Sq. to get between the Charles path network and the Somerville path network. This area's in great shape.


You get the picture. It's really not hard to get near-complete bike grade separation on the entire Cambridge/Watertown side of the Charles from Waltham all the way to Museum of Science if DCR would just engage brain and stick to a corridor plan. The fact that so much of this area has had makeshift high-speed paths worn into the grass shows how duh-obvious this is if they'd just tie the segments together. You'd have an unavoidable pinch near River/Western where there just isn't much space to expand, and some crummy but mercifully short-distance mixed traffic under the Longfellow (but better bike lanes coming ON the Longfellow). But that's it for compromised points. The rest of it can be A/A+ bike, ped, and road grade separation end-to-end for not a whole lot of money. And arguably way better for the environment than just letting those worn paths and worn-to-bone shores leak more runoff into the Charles.
 
The interstates set themselves apart from all other roads by banning non-motorized vehicles and having a design speed of 70mph. You should see interstate design in *contrast* to Memorial (laid out as a "pleasure" drive, not for time-pressed commuting). Do not let the fact that the interstates exist persuade you that they and their design standards are "the norm."

Memorial Drive was laid out before 1922, at a time when the Model T was the dominant car and its comfortable operating speed was 30 mph. (its "top" speed is 40-45). (the Ford Model A arrives in 1927).

Memorial drive has a mix of 35mph sections but is signed 25mph by the BU Boathouse and the former Model T factory that faces it across the street.

The Model T was 66 inches wide. A Honda Fit is 67 inches wide.

My sense is that the problem here is that motorists are using Memorial for cars that are wider and faster than the cars for which it was designed, whereas cyclists are within design parameters.
 
Fattony, just wondering, would you ever dare ride your bike down Storrow Drive? I don't really see how it's that much different from Memorial.

Storrow is a limited access highway, so no I would not ride on it.

There is a significant difference between Storrow and Memorial. Storrow is faster, with limited access ramps (with 2-3 exceptions in Beacon Hill) and no stopping. Believe me, there are times I wish Memorial were as fast as Storrow so I could zip from one side of Cambridge to another, but it is not. It has cross streets and stop lights and occasionally bicycles. Pretty much like every other state highway.

I certainly think that Memorial should have better bike facilities because the cracked and broken strip of concrete is woefully inadequate. I use that junky path as much as possible, but sometimes (weekends) it is really congested and I'll ride in the road a bit.
 
Well, Storrow's also got the Esplanade. Granted, it's shitty between Mass Ave. and Kenmore, and BU Bridge and Western Ave., but there is a complete cycle track with outside hope of getting better in the future if they do that underpass at Andersen Bridge, widen the sidewalks on River and Western, and reclaim some land from the Bowker ramp sprawl post-demolition. That side of the river has much more complete grade separation from all other forms of vehicular and pedestrian traffic, and is arguably a much preferable ride if your destination lets you choose either/or side of the river.

That does take some of the urgency out of upgrading the Mem. Dr. side. Although it's well past time both sides of the river got ped/bike accessibility parity given how crowded it gets out there.
 
Sorry, I kind of lumped you in with fattony. His initial response is the one that pissed me off.

Apology accepted.

I think that it is important to maintain perspective here. Memorial Drive sucks for just about everyone trying to use it for purely transportation purposes. Perhaps that's how it was intended to be back in the 1920s, as an old fashioned "parkway", where the designers thought that you would be expected to stop and smell the flowers (or that Charles River odor, as it may be).

Cars go much faster, and have a lot more power, nowadays. With great power comes great responsibility -- or so it is said. A slow-moving bicyclist might be a nuisance to you as a fast-moving driver. But if the roles were reversed, you would feel the fast-moving driver as a threat. And likewise, even the slow-moving bicyclist might be perceived as a threat by the even slower-moving pedestrian trying to share a cramped sidewalk.

I just wanted to help you understand what bicyclists and pedestrians are feeling when using the Paul Dudley White path, and why certain brave bicyclists may choose to legally use Memorial Drive, even if I personally wouldn't do it. The sidepath is simply not adequate for the amount of demand. There isn't much choice for someone who wants to bike there. It's either bike on the road, bike on the tiny sidewalk, or just don't go there at all. What's sad is that it doesn't have to be this way.

F-Line laid out the details quite well. The true villain is DCR and their combination of incompetence and possible malignance. We shouldn't be fighting with each other. There is plenty of right-of-way, but DCR has hardly even bothered to try and properly maintain it. It would be the simplest thing in the world for them to pave a simple cycle track on top of the dirt path, so that it would be usable by faster-moving bicyclists and runners. But as he pointed out, DCR can't even be bothered to install pedestrian signals at certain dangerous intersections.

In my opinion, it is DCR that is truly deserving of heaps of scorn and opprobrium, for refusing to fix this mess that they and their predecessor created.
 

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