Bulfinch Crossing | Congress Street Garage | West End
- Thread starter statler
- Start date
- Joined
- May 25, 2006
- Messages
- 6,994
- Reaction score
- 1,717
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
Hard to tell on this one. Probably the people who speak up will talk about:
1) Wind
2) Shadows
3) Height
4) School
5) The city land that the developer doesn't own
6) Who the hell knows
Hard to tell on this one. Probably the people who speak up will talk about:
1) Wind
2) Shadows
3) Height
4) School
5) The city land that the developer doesn't own
6) Who the hell knows
type001
Senior Member
- Joined
- Jun 29, 2006
- Messages
- 1,730
- Reaction score
- 231
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
Of course it will. But when proponents of height and development start thinking that way, then we truely have lost. It's one thing for the mayor to take it up the rear from residents, because those are all lost votes if he doesn't. What does Raymond have to lose? Maybe he can just say "Hey dbags, if you don't like what I got, enjoy the garage for the rest of your worthless lives."
Why not both? It's all downtown.
Of course it will. But when proponents of height and development start thinking that way, then we truely have lost. It's one thing for the mayor to take it up the rear from residents, because those are all lost votes if he doesn't. What does Raymond have to lose? Maybe he can just say "Hey dbags, if you don't like what I got, enjoy the garage for the rest of your worthless lives."
Why not both? It's all downtown.
TheRifleman
Banned
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2008
- Messages
- 4,431
- Reaction score
- 0
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
Why not both? It's all downtown.[/QUOTE]
AGREE 100%. It's time for the city officials and neighborhood activists to step back and let the city flourish with PRIVATE INVESTMENTS.
These developers want to make a better city not destroy neighborhoods.
Their should be some concern about Height Restrictions over shadowing neighborhoods on certain areas but this area needs a major development.
Why not both? It's all downtown.[/QUOTE]
AGREE 100%. It's time for the city officials and neighborhood activists to step back and let the city flourish with PRIVATE INVESTMENTS.
These developers want to make a better city not destroy neighborhoods.
Their should be some concern about Height Restrictions over shadowing neighborhoods on certain areas but this area needs a major development.
kz1000ps
Senior Member
- Joined
- May 28, 2006
- Messages
- 8,804
- Reaction score
- 10,064
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
If you're going just by looks, yes. But think about what the Time Warner Center has for uses: a good-sized mall; a performing arts space designed specifically for jazz; TV production studios for CNN; office space; a hotel; and finally, condos. It's that kind of agglomeration of programs that made Van connect the TWC with this project.
kennedy said:
If you're going just by looks, yes. But think about what the Time Warner Center has for uses: a good-sized mall; a performing arts space designed specifically for jazz; TV production studios for CNN; office space; a hotel; and finally, condos. It's that kind of agglomeration of programs that made Van connect the TWC with this project.
Jane Jetson
New member
- Joined
- Oct 24, 2008
- Messages
- 84
- Reaction score
- 0
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
[/QUOTE]
Their should be some concern about Height Restrictions over shadowing neighborhoods on certain areas but this area needs a major development.[/QUOTE]
Why can't there be a "shadow zone," an area in the city just FOR tall buildings?
[/QUOTE]
Their should be some concern about Height Restrictions over shadowing neighborhoods on certain areas but this area needs a major development.[/QUOTE]
Why can't there be a "shadow zone," an area in the city just FOR tall buildings?
Jane Jetson
New member
- Joined
- Oct 24, 2008
- Messages
- 84
- Reaction score
- 0
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
How much direct sunlight does a human being actually need in a day? Do these people photosynthesize? I thought all the ozone had burned off and the light was bad for you now.
People who move to the shadow zone sign a release; visitors will be given flashlights at the gate.
How much direct sunlight does a human being actually need in a day? Do these people photosynthesize? I thought all the ozone had burned off and the light was bad for you now.
People who move to the shadow zone sign a release; visitors will be given flashlights at the gate.
eaalkaline
New member
- Joined
- Nov 19, 2007
- Messages
- 81
- Reaction score
- 0
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
i think ur on to something!
i think ur on to something!
Smuttynose
Active Member
- Joined
- May 26, 2006
- Messages
- 623
- Reaction score
- 3,284
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
For the life of me, I can't understand how a sane person could look at the plans and say, "Nah, I like what we have much better." I'm not aware of a more unattractive, obtrusive structure in the city of Boston.
The developers should be thanked for their willingness to demolish such a disaster of a building.
For the life of me, I can't understand how a sane person could look at the plans and say, "Nah, I like what we have much better." I'm not aware of a more unattractive, obtrusive structure in the city of Boston.
The developers should be thanked for their willingness to demolish such a disaster of a building.
tmac9wr
Senior Member
- Joined
- Jun 14, 2006
- Messages
- 1,445
- Reaction score
- 63
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
That's a beautiful picture of such a horrible building. It will look so much better when there's a couple beautiful towers there in its place. Ahhh, 2045 is going to be a great year.
That's a beautiful picture of such a horrible building. It will look so much better when there's a couple beautiful towers there in its place. Ahhh, 2045 is going to be a great year.
- Joined
- May 25, 2006
- Messages
- 6,994
- Reaction score
- 1,717
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
I moved the last few posts to a new thread here cuz they were going off on a good tangent.
I moved the last few posts to a new thread here cuz they were going off on a good tangent.
- Joined
- May 25, 2006
- Messages
- 6,994
- Reaction score
- 1,717
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
People aren't saying they like the building. People are just worried that it will be replaced with something that is worse/more detrimental to the city.
People aren't saying they like the building. People are just worried that it will be replaced with something that is worse/more detrimental to the city.
Smuttynose
Active Member
- Joined
- May 26, 2006
- Messages
- 623
- Reaction score
- 3,284
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
Unless they actually plan on building the Gateway to Hell or the new George W. Bush Presidential Library there, I don't think it's technically possible to build anything more detrimental than the Gov't Center Garage.
Unless they actually plan on building the Gateway to Hell or the new George W. Bush Presidential Library there, I don't think it's technically possible to build anything more detrimental than the Gov't Center Garage.
BarbaricManchurian
Senior Member
- Joined
- Mar 12, 2007
- Messages
- 1,067
- Reaction score
- 64
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
^^really? The ground floor retail on the Greenway side isn't really too bad, and it adds to the sense of enclosure on it by being so big and hulking.
^^really? The ground floor retail on the Greenway side isn't really too bad, and it adds to the sense of enclosure on it by being so big and hulking.
Jane Jetson
New member
- Joined
- Oct 24, 2008
- Messages
- 84
- Reaction score
- 0
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
Bravo to John for raising the obvious question at last night's meeting as to why Menino has agreed to "consider" building a school at One Congress St., and for pissing off the woman from the BRA!! I wanted to say hi to you, but when it got past 9:00 I had to get out of there.
The meeting was rather low key - a handful of the usual former hippies/crazies, the guy who always complains about parking, and the parents who came begging for a school.
I like how Mike Ross showed up late and left right after making his demands of the developers. I'm surprised he didn't bring his photographer with him.
The one element that was new at least to me, and will probably get lost in all the other arguments was how they intend to make this a green complex, including cogeneration to make it almost completely sustainable.
Bravo to John for raising the obvious question at last night's meeting as to why Menino has agreed to "consider" building a school at One Congress St., and for pissing off the woman from the BRA!! I wanted to say hi to you, but when it got past 9:00 I had to get out of there.
The meeting was rather low key - a handful of the usual former hippies/crazies, the guy who always complains about parking, and the parents who came begging for a school.
I like how Mike Ross showed up late and left right after making his demands of the developers. I'm surprised he didn't bring his photographer with him.
The one element that was new at least to me, and will probably get lost in all the other arguments was how they intend to make this a green complex, including cogeneration to make it almost completely sustainable.
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
I had gone to the IAC Meeting on Monday, and planed on attending yesterday but I just had too much to do on my current project.
Anyways, My question to the Development team on Monday was;
I love what I?m seeing. Its a green project on the cutting edge of sustainability and with the pick of your architects I think this has serious potential. I stated that I was probably the furthest thing from a NIMBY in the room, and I would really like to see this project move forward. But with such a large project, it is inevitable that at some they will have to go through some sort of Value Engineering process. So my question is?. What?s the first to go? Where does your company typically find value to cut during the VE process.
Basically, it was too early to answer that question, and I knew that?.. But its something to think about.
I had gone to the IAC Meeting on Monday, and planed on attending yesterday but I just had too much to do on my current project.
Anyways, My question to the Development team on Monday was;
I love what I?m seeing. Its a green project on the cutting edge of sustainability and with the pick of your architects I think this has serious potential. I stated that I was probably the furthest thing from a NIMBY in the room, and I would really like to see this project move forward. But with such a large project, it is inevitable that at some they will have to go through some sort of Value Engineering process. So my question is?. What?s the first to go? Where does your company typically find value to cut during the VE process.
Basically, it was too early to answer that question, and I knew that?.. But its something to think about.
Re: Gov't Center Garage Redevelopment
I know we have talked about this before, but everyone needs to understand that the renderings you guys are seeing are only for Massing studies. No One knows what this complex is going to look like yet.
I know we have talked about this before, but everyone needs to understand that the renderings you guys are seeing are only for Massing studies. No One knows what this complex is going to look like yet.