Canopy by Hilton (née Haymarket Hotel) | Blackstone St | Parcel 9 | Greenway

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Both of you are correct. The parcel 6 ramps are finished, meaning fully functional for vehicular traffic. They are unfinished because there is still exposed rebar, temporary fencing, and some other incidentals that have not been installed.
 
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Has anyone seen the "billboard" for the Greenway Center? Its on New Charedon and whatever they call the Greenway these days. Adjecent to the Avenir.
 
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"Few cities can boast of the physical transformation Boston has experienced in recent years. Where an elevated highway once dominated the landscape, an urban oasis has sprung to life. The Rose F. Kennedy Greenway, an emerald ribbon of tranquil parks, gardens, fountains and promenades, connects neighborhoods, commerce and culture."

I get embarrassed reading stuff like this. Maybe by the time this 'scraper (of land) gets built, the above description will no longer read like biting satire.
 
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You know, I wouldn't mind it if it were in the SBW area.

And you know what, if it weren't for those stupid looking vertical blade/panel things in the crescent there, I might even tolerate it. At least it's LEED, right? Technically, it's a real urban location-close to mass transit, the Garden, the North End, downtown, everything really. Maybe if the Congress St. Garage project is ever approved, it'll make this sucker a little less offensive.
 
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"Sucker" is right! I detest this. It somehow manages to be both bland and offensive at the same time. This is one that definitely needs to go back to the drawing board. It's an area that demands some decent HEIGHT!
 
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Is greenway center about to start construction?
 
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From the Globe:

the Boston Globe said:
Apartments, museum lead race for Greenway site

BRA says proposals most consistent with its plans for parcel

By Casey Ross, Globe Staff | August 7, 2009


A 78-unit apartment building and a museum focused on local history became the front-runners yesterday in a competition to develop a sliver of land that would become the cornerstone of a public market district along the Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy Greenway.


The proposals, both of which call for a food market on the ground floor, were singled out yesterday by the Boston Redevelopment Authority as the most consistent with its plans for the property, located next to the weekend gathering of Haymarket vendors on Blackstone Street.

The news came a day after city and state officials raised financial concerns about the only two proposals submitted for a market in an adjacent building known as the parcel 7 garage. City officials want to use that building and the land discussed yesterday, known as parcel 9, to create an expansive public area for local growers for food sellers.

One of the favored proposals for parcel 9 was submitted by Boston Museum, which wants to construct a glass and terra-cotta building with four floors of interactive exhibits above the market. The other was submitted by Eastat Realty Capital, of Boston, which is proposing to build apartments and a parking garage over the market.

The BRA offered support for the proposals in a letter to the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority, which owns the property and is collaborating with city officials to select a developer. The authority will make the final decision. The district the agencies are trying to create what would house the first public market in Boston since the 1950s and would resemble public food markets operating in most major cities across the United States.

Parcel 9, a triangular plot used for storage by the Haymarket vendors, attracted four proposals after the Turnpike Authority began soliciting bids in February. City officials did not make a clear recommendation in yesterday?s letter, but indicated the museum proposal is consistent with their economic development goals, and that the apartment building complies with planning documents that call for housing on the property.

?We want a viable project that can happen quickly,?? said Peter Gori, a senior manager at the BRA. ?Realistically, we think we could see this come together within the next couple of years.??

The BRA?s letter did express concern aboutboth Eastat?s apartment plan and the museum proposal. It stated the museum?s executives face a long struggle to raise $120 million to build the facility and must address traffic issues.

Frank Keefe, chief executive of the nonprofit organization seeking to build the museum, said both issues can be resolved. ?Our project will animate the Greenway, and it?s the best museum site in the country,?? he said.

The BRA said Eastat?s apartment plan could be problematic, due to noise from the market on the first floor. Chris Tsouros, a lawyer for the developer, said the company is seeking to address that with the building?s design and by putting the garage between the market and the residences. ?We recognized that characteristic from the beginning and built it into our plans for the site,?? he said.

Two other proposals for parcel 9, submitted by the DeNormandie Cos., of Boston, and Gutierrez Co., of Burlington, were reviewed in the BRA?s letter, but were not mentioned in a summary discussing the authority?s preferences.

DeNormandie, which owns buildings facing the site on Blackstone Street, proposed art galleries or offices above a market and a restaurant. Philip DeNormandie said he had not seen the BRA?s letter last night and was not prepared to comment.

Gutierrez proposed building offices above a market, retail store, and restaurant. A managing director of the company, Bill Caulder, said the company considered residences but concluded the parcel is too small to include amenities such as a gym and a business center, making it difficult to compete with surrounding projects, such as the nearby Avenir apartment complex.
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And from the Herald:
the Boston Herald said:
City lauds $35M apartment plan for Haymarket
A Rose for Greenway
By Thomas Grillo | Friday, August 7, 2009


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A proposal for a five-story apartment building on a vacant lot owned by the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority has won praise from City Hall.

Eastat Realty Capital?s $35 million plan for residences with a ground-floor produce market is one of four plans under consideration for the 29,400-square-foot site at Haymarket along the Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy Greenway.

?The Boston Redevelopment Authority believes the Eastat proposal is the most responsive to 15 years of planning with the community,? said Peter Gori, a BRA senior manager.

In April, four developers responded to the turnpike?s request for Parcel 9 proposals. In addition to Eastat, the turnpike received submissions for a $120 million Boston Museum; a five-story building with art galleries or offices from DeNormandie Cos.; and a 137,000-square-foot office building on six floors from Gutierrez Co.

In a letter to the turnpike, the BRA said the 78-unit residential building meets several criteria set out in both its request for proposals and the guidelines for the city?s master plan. The 30-acre site was created by the demolition of the Central Artery. Still, the BRA said that building an apartment complex atop a food market could lead to conflicts between tenants and Haymarket vendors because of noise.

The BRA was critical of the plans for the Boston Museum, questioning its sustainability and expressing concerns that organizers will have difficulty raising the funds to build the project.

The city also raised questions about the DeNormandie Cos.? proposal for a glass canopy to protect pushcart vendors, saying it may not meet Boston Landmarks Commission guidelines.

The turnpike is expected to make its final selection later this year.

Article URL: http://www.bostonherald.com/business/real_estate



Try to keep the Parcel 9 comments here, as opposed to the Greenway thread. I understand how people tend to lump them in with the Greenway, but, though related, this is a different, and distinct project.

I'm in the process of mining through all the comments and articles from the vast, 2500+ post Greenway thread and moving those comments here.
 
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Is it just me or does anyone else see shades of Tremont on the Common in the Herald rendering?
 
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Taken from the Eastat/CBT proposal linked to in the first page of this thread:

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?We want a viable project that can happen quickly,?? said Peter Gori, a senior manager at the BRA. ?Realistically, we think we could see this come together within the next couple of years.??

Do you have the money for this project burning a whole in your pocket? "Realistically" you are talking out of your ass.

Frank Keefe, chief executive of the nonprofit organization seeking to build the museum, said both issues can be resolved. ?Our project will animate the Greenway, and it?s the best museum site in the country,?? he said.

Not it won't and no it isn't.

The BRA said Eastat?s apartment plan could be problematic, due to noise from the market on the first floor. Chris Tsouros, a lawyer for the developer, said the company is seeking to address that with the building?s design and by putting the garage between the market and the residences. ?We recognized that characteristic from the beginning and built it into our plans for the site,?? he said.

That garage ain't gonna solve the noise from outside. Also, what about the smells?

Going back I think all the proposals are duds. The Eastat's building would be really cool anywhere else but here it just seems like it is trying too hard to not stand out.

The Boston Museum proposal is pretty lame despite the fact that it would illuminate the Greenway in a dramatic way.

I feel like a tower would work here, but only a small one and not one that would take up the whole plot of land; a slender tower reminiscent of the Custom House. It would really define the place. It would work well for a hotel.
 
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Housing at Haymarket
Apartments beat out museum plan
By Thomas Grillo
Wednesday, December 2, 2009


A $40 million apartment building proposed for Haymarket is expected to win state approval today.

Sources tell the Herald that the Massachusetts Department of Transportation will allow Eastat Realty Capital to build a 78-unit apartment building with a ground-floor produce market on a state-owned lot overlooking the Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy Greenway.

Eastat?s five-story complex on a 29,400-square-foot parcel at the corner of Blackstone and North streets is one of four proposals that have been under consideration since the spring. The others are a $120 million Boston History Museum, a five-story building with art galleries or offices on the upper levels by DeNormandie Cos., and a six-story, 137,000-square-foot office building by the Gutierrez Co.

The DOT?s decision appears to put a stake in the heart of the museum plan. The proposal for a glass and terra-cotta building with four floors of interactive exhibits suffered from a lack of financial support.

Officials and neighborhood activists worried that the nonprofit group, whose mission is to tell the story of the Hub?s 400-year history, has raised only $7 million and was dependent on taxpayer money.

Frank Keefe, the museum?s CEO, did not return calls seeking comment.

Eamon O?Marah, managing partner at Eastat Realty Capital, said he would not comment until the conclusion of today?s MassDOT board meeting.


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With how the Museum looks, I think this is a win.
 
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Would people really want to live here? A hotel makes more sense than an apartment buildling.
 
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I'd rather see housing, but whether or not it is a success is questionable. I think it's a pretty desirable location, though. Quincy Market, the North End, the Aquarium, the wonderful Greenway...what more could you want?
 
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I think this is a good place for affordable apts. Maybe just too busy and close to the ground for expensive high end units.
 
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Hurray for second floor parking.
 
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A small infill development that will have a huge impact on the Greenway street wall and the Haymarket experience. My only concern is that the area left for the Haymarket may be a bit too small. It is already cramped into the space given, a wonder if there are plans to expand Haymarket out to the Greenway.
 
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On the potentially negative side. It puts "actual" residents in an area to complain about new high rises such as the Aquarium tower and the Congress St. Garage towers. Hopefully they get approved before this thing gets built.

Just playing devil's advocate/pessimist (which I'm not) to stir the pot.
 
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^^Good call. Always glad to see more residential downtown though.
 

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