COVID-19 in Boston

I'm talking about the physical structures that were built and are now being taken down. If they thought it was necessary to keep it just in case, they would have, even if they weren't going to use it at the moment.
What sort of structures? Do you mean tents? Lots of hospitals and other medical facilities put up tents for overflow waiting areas, COVID testing, etc. Such temporary structures can be a hazard and would certainly be taken down when not in use. However, they are also quite easy to re-establish when needed. I don't think the hospital capacity is less now than it was a few weeks ago, just redirected for the time being.
 
Received the following message on Cambridge's re opening plan:
The City of Cambridge is reviewing the plan released today by the Baker-Polito Administration for the reopening of businesses in the Commonwealth and has announced City-specific construction activity guidance. Mandating both strict social and business guidance, the state plan calls for the gradual, safe reopening of businesses in four phases. Cambridge businesses planning to reopen must adhere to all Massachusetts regulations, in addition to any additional guidance issued by the City. In the coming days, the City of Cambridge will release further information on City-specific orders that will supplement the State’s recommendations.

The Commonwealth’s plan, “Reopening Massachusetts,” details four separate phases of reopening, each phase of which will last for a minimum of three weeks. The launch of each phase will be dependent upon key public health metrics. These metrics will be regularly updated and re-evaluated to determine whether to advance reopening or if steps are needed to mitigate transmission rates before the next phase of reopening. Although it is not mandatory to reopen, businesses that are eligible to reopen during each phase rollout must adhere to Mandatory Workplace Safety Standards, as well as sector-specific protocols and best practices.

The Commonwealth has and will continue to publish Sector Circulars and Checklists to help businesses adjust their operations appropriately with regard to physical distancing, hygiene protocols, staffing and operations, and cleaning/disinfecting, and to ensure employee and customer safety. Businesses that reopen must also self-certify a COVID-19 Control Plan indicating how the workplace will prevent the spread of the virus and adhere to state protocols for reopening. Self-certification documents must be kept onsite in case of inspection. Businesses are also required to make visible to patrons and employees signage attesting compliance with the business’s COVID-19 Control Plan and posters outlining mandatory safety standards for employees and for employers.

Effective today, essential businesses that have been operating, manufacturing businesses, construction sites, places of worship, and hospitals and community health centers are eligible to reopen and must demonstrate compliance with the State’s new safety standards by May 25, 2020. The City of Cambridge will expand currently allowed construction activity in the City in four phases:

Phase 1, beginning May 25, will add site safety prep work for projects previously permitted by Inspectional Services (ISD) and Public Works (DPW). Forthcoming amendments to the City’s Temporary Emergency Construction Order issued on March 18 will modify the definition of essential construction to include work associated with COVID-19 restaurant modification needed to allow them to safely reopen;

Phase 2, beginning on June 1, will add horizontal construction, city building projects, 100% affordable housing developments, larger buildings (over 25,000 square feet) previously permitted by ISD or DPW;

Phase 3, tentatively beginning on June 15, will add all remaining existing construction previously permitted by ISD and DPW;

and Phase 4, tentatively beginning on June 29, will add new permits. Permits can be submitted and pre-reviews will occur at any time, but permits will not be formally accepted or issued until this date.

The Administration today also issued a Safer at Home Advisory. The Advisory, which replaces the Stay at Home Advisory issued March 23, 2020, recommends that individuals only leave home for healthcare, worship and permitted work, shopping and outdoor activities. It also encourages Seniors and residents with underlying health conditions to only leave home for essential errands. The City of Cambridge’s Temporary Emergency Order requiring residents to wear face coverings or masks still remains in effect, as does the statewide mask order.

“As a city, we all have a critical role to play in making sure that the reopening of our economy is done responsibly and thoughtfully,” said Cambridge Mayor Sumbul Siddiqui and City Manager Louis A. DePasquale in a joint statement. “Patience and compliance with the Commonwealth’s regulations will be critical to ensuring a safe and smooth reopening. We are also developing Cambridge-specific guidance and will share it when it is available to further inform the reopening of Cambridge businesses and offices.”

Frankly, I don't understand its logic. Seems like small residential and commercial development gets the short stick, with no special allowances for outdoor construction.
 
If you call printing money an economy than the USA is #1 in that.
Universal income will only continue to turn the United States into a socialist country. How is that working out in Europe?
Our leaders allowing the corporations to outsource America's manufacturing to a Communist regime calling this Global Capitalism is actually treasonous. How can you have global capitalism when each country trades in different currency and the Govt have completely different labor laws.

I think American People got hoodwinked into believing the Globalist agenda. Now look at where we are .

THERE IS NO ECONOMY.
Stay at home order by our GOVT's
Main Street (RIP)
Wall Street (prints money)
Corporations (Will own everything in the end from mom & pop)
No Manufacturing
30+ Million unemployed Americans
Negative Interest rates (How does that work)

We are in Financial slavery to the Fed and the corporations your just to stupid to realize it.

And Europe is doing fine. They don't have a leader who doesn't believe in science, says things that could encourage dangerous behavior (like suggesting bleach as a possible way to prevent COVID-19), and spreads misinformation to the public. What's really embarrassing is that ol' Italy, the supposed worst hit country during the pandemic, has fewer cases per million pops despite conducting more tests than the US per capita.
 
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The old California is bigger than some countries' economy argument! Seems like another liberal was "triggered" based on your profanity. California has a $1T pension liability. This has nothing to do with the size of their economy, rather chronic mismanagement of the pension fund. Do some independent research and read about the chronic pension mismanagement. Second, California, by far, has the highest Debt to Income ratio in the country and has for quite some time. Doesn't take much thinking to realize why. There are proposals to raise taxes in California in the form of Services taxes, on top of the 14% top income rate rate. Do all engineers, architects on here, California is proposing a surcharge on your income taxes...well, just because!
This is laughable. California's debt as a percentage of state GDP is 16.58% in 2017 (latest year available), slightly above the US average and below business friendly Texas.

 
Yeah so reopening immediately is essential. Sorry that I don’t feel the need to lock down everything to futilely prevent the deaths of people at or near the life expectancy. It’s like shutting everything down if there was a surge in cancer deaths one year. Might feel good, but won’t actually save any lives, and might actually cause increased deaths by suicide etc.

We have some major strawmanning here huh. Honestly sad to see. Debate the actual points made.

Hospitals were never “overwhelmed.” People have been missing elective surgery and dental cleanings for a while and there’s been a massive amount of healthcare layoffs.
Yeah my cousin's a nurse as are many of my friends. They are overworked week in and week out. I worry about her mental health and her physical health having to take care of people who choose to be reckless. But yeah there's no surge. She must be lying and staying at the hospital for no reason because she wants to. :rolleyes: By all means, if you want to be reckless, go be reckless. Just don't go to the hospital if you get sick.
 
Yeah my cousin's a nurse as are many of my friends. They are overworked week in and week out. I worry about her mental health and her physical health having to take care of people who choose to be reckless. But yeah there's no surge. She must be lying and staying at the hospital for no reason because she wants to. :rolleyes: By all means, if you want to be reckless, go be reckless. Just don't go to the hospital if you get sick.

What hospitals? I think in general, our HC workers are heroes and even PRE covid, nurses get an unfair shake and are often overworked. That hospital system has been broken for quite a while. A close family member did 35 years at the large local hospitals in mgmt and often talked about how screwed up they were internally.
 
This is laughable. California's debt as a percentage of state GDP is 16.58% in 2017 (latest year available), slightly above the US average and below business friendly Texas.


^^ That is laughable. You looked at Google result #1. Did you add in their Federal debt obligations? Did you know what California itself reported? I guess not. But yeah, they are healthy...

“Combining California’s debt with publicly held federal debt, we estimate a total debt-to-GDP ratio of 125% (or 153% using the broader definition of federal debt),” California Policy Center report released in 2017 points out. “This level places California distressingly close to peripheral Eurozone countries that faced financial crises in 2011 and 2012. Portugal’s 2015 debt-to-GDP ratio was 129% and Italy’s was 133%.”
 
I support a smart reopening. Reopen everything and high-risk groups can decide to isolate with state subsidies. Many older people agree like charlie_mta so don’t feel the need to be a spokesman for them. Wonder what westy thinks too lolol (F-Line’s head will probably explode in a nuclear blast if he returns). We don’t really have another choice without another federal stimulus unfortunately. Things are getting desperate for the working class and not getting people back to work will lead to major bad vibes everywhere. Unemployment, development projects stopped, increased crime, closed stores, higher crime, hunger, desperation, suicides, deaths of despair, etc. And that will suck much much more than a virus with a sub 1% mortality where we’ve already flattened the curve somewhat.
I also support a smart reopening but a large portion of the US population can't even agree to wear masks when entering stores because they think its uncomfortable and not effective at protecting themselves. News flash, the primary purpose of the mask isn't to protect you, it's to protect the employees who put themselves at risks by being exposed to customers who are potentially asymptomatic carriers.
 
I also support a smart reopening but a large portion of the US population can't even agree to wear masks when entering stores because they think its uncomfortable and not effective at protecting themselves. News flash, the primary purpose of the mask isn't to protect you, it's to protect the employees who put themselves at risks by being exposed to customers who are potentially asymptomatic carriers.

I cringe when when I see people that rub and touch their face with their dirty hands trying to fix the mask or pull it down to talk on their dirty phone. Your hands are FAR more likely to transmit the virus through your EYES, nose or mouth vs airborne. If you choose to wear one, put it on and don't move it. The whole pulling it up and down when you are around people, is 100% useless. Hand to face contact has been known for centuries as the primary transmitter of viruses.
 
This has been an entertaining thread, but I hope we can all just agree to disagree. We all have unique perspectives on political/ideological issues like this, and that's okay. I just hate to see it get so heated on here. To me, that's not what we're about on AB.
 
I gotta say that reading back this thread that you seem to one of the angry ones, buddy. Everyone’s on edge dealing with shit in the world.
 
Have I sworn once? No. Typically, debates are great here ! But once someone throws swears out, it is not worth it. Brings anger into interesting debates and then the fun is gone. The personal attacks are also unwarranted. Not everyone is on edge either.
 
Yeah my cousin's a nurse as are many of my friends. They are overworked week in and week out. I worry about her mental health and her physical health having to take care of people who choose to be reckless. But yeah there's no surge. She must be lying and staying at the hospital for no reason because she wants to. :rolleyes: By all means, if you want to be reckless, go be reckless. Just don't go to the hospital if you get sick.

The hospitalization rate has been in a steady decline for some time. Now I suspect this is because Grandma (who caught the virus back in March) is dying.
 
I just caught up on the past week worth of this thread. I regret it. I put falcon on ignore and I politely suggest folks stop engaging him on these ideological, off-topic rants. This thread is no longer about Covid in Boston. It’s a disgrace of moderation. Mods I know you have a challenging job, but you need to do better.
 
This is laughable. California's debt as a percentage of state GDP is 16.58% in 2017 (latest year available), slightly above the US average and below business friendly Texas.


As I said before, he is just making things up. Far better to ignore than engage.

 
I just caught up on the past week worth of this thread. I regret it. I put falcon on ignore and I politely suggest folks stop engaging him on these ideological, off-topic rants. This thread is no longer about Covid in Boston. It’s a disgrace of moderation. Mods I know you have a challenging job, but you need to do better.

Yeah, I regret doing the same thing. We need a dumpster fire emoji.
 
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