Dorchester Infill and Small Developments

There doesn't appear to be a big market for a station there. If you sited the station near Redfield Street to best serve Port Norfolk (which appears to have fewer than 300 households), it would be difficult to access for anyone on the other side of 93. If you put it just across 93, it would be difficult for PN residents to access, and Morrissey Blvd would be a signficant barrier for folks coming from Popes Hill.

Victory Rd would probably be the best location, and even there you've got a relatively low density neighborhood on one side of the station, and the high density area to the west isn't directly adjacent to the station. I suppose there'd be some TOD opportunities at that location, but given the wealth of untapped TOD opps elsewhere in town, and the 27,000 daily Red Line riders boarding in Quincy and Braintree who would have time added to their trip, a station in this location is probably a very low priority.
 
Ya ain't taking my old Little League field for no stinkin' train station.

Both Victory Road and Port Norfolk are well within reasonable walking distance of the #20bus. Boston has a lot more transit priorities than a train station to serve people that have reasonable bus access that feeds mass transit.

Ron - There was an Old Colony station in Port Norfolk, one where the Dunkin Donuts is on Morrissey Blvd., and one at Harrison Square that served Clam (Commercial) Point.
 
Boston has a lot more transit priorities than a train station to serve people that have reasonable bus access that feeds mass transit.
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^ I suppose you're also a big supporter of the Silver Line?
 
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czsz said:
^ I suppose you're also a big supporter of the Silver Line?
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The Silver Line should be trolley from Mattapan to Boylston. There is a huge difference in populations that would be served. Port Norfolk and Clam Point are much smaller than the number of people that would be served by a trolley line along Blue Hill Avenue. Fields Corner station is a 5 minute walk from Clam Point. A bus or bringing back trackless trolleys to Dorchester would be better than a massive Red Line station. A station in Port Norfolk would be like the Kingstown Station on Amtrak in Rhode Island, really only good for a small number of people that can be better served from a fiscal standpoint by other means or for shooting you tube videos of express trains flying through.

We should have a Mattapan like trolley from Malden Center to Saugus. Cheap to build and takes buses of the street. It is the right of way most screaming out for use.
 
JohnCostello said:
The Silver Line should be trolley from Mattapan to Boylston. There is a huge difference in populations that would be served. Port Norfolk and Clam Point are much smaller than the number of people that would be served by a trolley line along Blue Hill Avenue. Fields Corner station is a 5 minute walk from Clam Point. A bus or bringing back trackless trolleys to Dorchester would be better than a massive Red Line station. A station in Port Norfolk would be like the Kingstown Station on Amtrak in Rhode Island, really only good for a small number of people that can be better served from a fiscal standpoint by other means or for shooting you tube videos of express trains flying through.

We should have a Mattapan like trolley from Malden Center to Saugus. Cheap to build and takes buses of the street. It is the right of way most screaming out for use.
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i think your missing the point. the station would primarily serve those in neponset which has several thousand residents. not port norfolk.

and the kingston station would serve University of Rhode Island and half of washington county, RI
 
I think NIMBY's squashed the Blue Hill Ave trolley idea because it would disturb the serene streetscape.
 
portnorfolk said:
i think your missing the point. the station would primarily serve those in neponset which has several thousand residents. not port norfolk.

and the kingston station would serve University of Rhode Island and half of washington county, RI
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There is a Kingstown Station in Rhode Island, all courtesy of Claiborne Pell.
Go on you tube and watch the videos of the Acela bombing through.


Very few people are going to walk from the corner of Train Street and South Munroe Terrace and then cross Morrissey Boulevard to get to a station. Worse, who wants to climb up South Munroe Terrace on a snowy winter's evening? You need pack animals to help you get up there. People in Neponset are tied to their cars becuase of the lack of transit infrastrucutre but a station next to the Murphy or off Tenean Street is not going to change the mindset of the many.
 
JohnCostello said:
There is a Kingstown Station in Rhode Island, all courtesy of Claiborne Pell.
Go on you tube and watch the videos of the Acela bombing through.


Very few people are going to walk from the corner of Train Street and South Munroe Terrace and then cross Morrissey Boulevard to get to a station. Worse, who wants to climb up South Munroe Terrace on a snowy winter's evening? You need pack animals to help you get up there. People in Neponset are tied to their cars becuase of the lack of transit infrastrucutre but a station next to the Murphy or off Tenean Street is not going to change the mindset of the many.
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Yes I know all about the acela bombing through RI. I'm from Westerly, RI origionally. I grew up watching the infrastructure being built. I've also used the amtrak Kingston Station. Which would be utilized by URI students if MBTA is extended.

And as far as Morrissey. You'd be suprised how many people cross that street everyday (dangerous as it is) to get to Dunkin Donuts, Stop/Shop, Tenean Beach, John Paul Park ect. There is a ped. bridge. As far a putting an infill station. I think you'd be suprised at the support.

i know it will never happen, just all hypothetical.
 
The one on Blue Hill is in Roxbury, the Kasanof bakery project (48 units, mixed-use):

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The second is a new Kroc community center:

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Better than abandoned lots I guess.

Edit: be tee dubs... thanks for being awesome.
 
took away a longtime IHOP to put up yet another ....
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